I'm just wondering why all the negativity about this update? I think the new shield system is famtastic. They finally made it realistic for more people to push to higher leagues to get more loot.
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I'm just wondering why all the negativity about this update? I think the new shield system is famtastic. They finally made it realistic for more people to push to higher leagues to get more loot.
i like the shield system,but talking about loot and responce from SC,i am sure the vast majority may have different.
this was always an option if you wanted to. now its no longer an option but its forced on everyone unless you massively trophy drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vxf
Yep. You're definitely naive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vxf
You can feel what you want mate no issue in that :)
The issue is with going higher to get loot which is still not true. You go down to get loot & go high to test your base once you feel ready :)
In the tutorial the game says your TH is your most important building and to protect it at all cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Powwder
I'm only surprised it took them so long to close the loophole.
Because people JUST realized how SC treats their players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vxf
♥♥♥♥. OP, good for you if you feel it is good, but a large number of players, I'd say 75% of the clash community is really upset with this update and it doesn't really work out the same for others :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CHAOTICfarmer
Yup. 10charQuote:
Originally Posted by Saleh47
Source for that data?Quote:
Originally Posted by RohanRocks
My own estimate is much lower (based on the same complete lack of data); I'd say a couple hundred whiners. So on the order of 0.00001% of the active Clash community.
Doesn't make you Naive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vxf
Higher Leagues does bring higher loot but it also bring a higher level of attackers.
You should try all leagues and find which one works best for you. Either attacking more often in lower leagues or less often in higher leagues.
Ultimately the majority of us just want the best loot return and not too fussed about cups until actually focusing solely on them.
well just form looking at the US app store, 1/4 of the ratings are 1 star for this update. so at least 1/4 of the people are ♥♥♥♥♥♥. this doesn't count people who don't rate. or the people who complain but still give it 5 stars (its weird, reading some comments they are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ but still rate it 5 stars....maybe they are naïve and think it will be fixed soon)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rampantarmadillo
Assuming that's correct.. That's 1/4 of the folk that bothered to assign a rating after the new update. Happy folk tend to just get on with their lives, so your data is meaningless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Powwder
its not meaningless because a lot of people just quit without rating as well. plus theres something like 40k total ratings....that's at least 10k people, not a few hundred you assumed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rampantarmadillo
besides at least I gave some actual facts where did you pull that few hundred number out of.
I count an actual 2 people not happy with the update. Personally I have seen zero I quit threads so I think people have actually only recruited more players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Powwder
:smirk:
go to your app store or google play and read some reviews If you want to count more :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SLEEKYx16
Ikr? This update really does hype things up! Here's how i see it:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vxf
Silver and below: Tonnes of potential for milking.
Gold: Decent loot that requires considerable sized armies
Crystal: DEAD BASES EVERYWHERE! IT'S A HAUNTING! Don't EVER come here. :smirk:
Masters: Farming via loot bonus 50%. Here, you'll face monsters. :cool:
Champions: Not for the faint of heart. You will lose resources faster than you can even collect from your collectors.
Titans: Titans? WHAT TITANS? Don't bother heading up here if you can't get past champions. :smirk:
Legends: Where trolls and daydreaming youtubers are. :smirk: Join the fan club!
When you are casual or relatively new to the game (below infernos), you probably get smashed every time you log out for your loot cap. And as you're casual, you don't really make up for the loss. If you're not casual, you don't exactly suffer that much from defences (you just don't have shield, but you get rarely attacked if at all), but the loot is visibly lower, so your farming suffered big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vxf
Overally the progress is slowed down A LOT (rushed bases or new-er players will have hard time to make any realistic progress at all). The complaining isn't exactly about "no free shields" as much as the killing of the tempo of the game. I'm halfway through th10, 1 week into the recent update I still could keep 5 of my builders going. Currently I'm too bored of nexting 50 minutes to get an opponent with decent loot, so I just log in 1-2 times a day to grab my collectors/mines, see "+xxx trophies" because I don't get attacked for other purposes than trophy drops (mind that I have capped max available loot from storages, so it's not "because I'm empty") and log out.
There is no progress (or a really slow one), farming makes very little sense, so the game got boring. I have no reason to stay in the game, so currently I'm stalling for some more time and soon enough, without a doubt, I'll uninstall, because what's the point.
Disclaimer: yes, I tried higher leagues and I've tried lower leagues. Lower leagues were far better than the higher one, but after one night of being logged out I'm getting 500 tophies and I'm not #$%^ in the head enough to drop that amount every day to have a possibility to make one attack with good profit.
Assuming that "us" means "all clash players", rather than "clashers unhappy with the update", can you share the source for this data, please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stitch
the problem is, every single thing in the update was made to take resources away from us. no dead bases is a source of income that vanished. no th sniping means you get attacked and lose resources. PBT means you get kicked off to get attacked so its harder to save the 8 million gold for an upgrade, having to 70% a base to get 100% of the league bonus. all of it is meant to take away resources so you have to spend more gems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avernicus
now I'm not saying bring back th sniping, or dead bases....I could honestly care less about that. what I do care about is them taking all this income away from everyone and not giving any of it back. this slows the progression of everything to a crawl. there have been many suggestions on how to fix this that don't include bringing back th sniping and dead bases. higher league bonus for example, or a refund on troops in higher leagues, defensive win bonuses so you aren't penalized for having a good base design are just to name a few.
SC can always resurrect the dead and let the crowd feast. But once the feast is over. What comes next? :smirk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Powwder
It'll be nice if you get penalized for having a good design and the attacker failing to break into your vaults of loot. Let's call it: defensive win bonus! :smirk:
I think he means "us" as in "players with a brain". Hope that helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rampantarmadillo
I also like the new system, but don't agree with you that it makes it realistic for more people to push to higher leagues. From what I see, there are even more people dropping to lower league since the update than before. I do think that's really a point SC needs to address. Incentives for rushing to higher leagues are not sufficient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vxf
If I take my personal case, i have been farming in titan for a while prior to the update. Since the update, I dropped to low champ3 because in the end, the bases have the same loot, army cost is the same, and league bonus is higher as I can easily get 70% out of most champ3 bases while I'll hardly get 50% out of most titan bases...
Already said, but I think they should rewards us for pushing by refunding a % of the troop cost based on the leagues, so that people pushing to higher leagues would get a higher refund, making raiding up there more profitable. An acceleration of the troop/spell training time and hero regeneration time depending on the league would be nice as well. We know it takes stronger armies to raid up there, so we need a good reason to do so.
In theory I'd agree with you, but then why I see way more people pushing down than up after the update?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vxf
Telling new clashers about the glory days be like:
https://i.imgflip.com/wugl6.jpg
:facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rampantarmadillo
10 :facepalm:'s.
EDIT: If you want the source of my data, PM me. I'll get in trouble if I post it here.
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Originally Posted by DaiGuren
:thumbsup:
Awesome...