Here are my thousand words in reply;
Again = This is a topic about WAR Weight and how to calculate what each new upgrade will add. It is not a topic to debate the merits and pitfalls of various builds such as minimax/ defenseless/.5 and etc... All I can say is that your research - is very very specific... your talking 10x10 wars with only two town hall levels... My research is 45x45 wars with th 3 to 10 mixed together; primariiy th 6 to 8 - but realistically we almost always have a 3 on bottom and quite often a 9 or 10 on top.
These two examples are not comparable at all... Your research may be valid for 10x10 wars; mine is valid for my 45x45's... I know adding a bunch of 'slightly stronger' accounts is giving us an edge... I have zero 'max th10 defenseless' bases to put into our wars... if you know any - please send them my way... i 'd love to have 5 of them...
Every RED LINE in our war log -- was a war where there were multiple players at th9 or 10 in our wars. 4 of the 5 wars were lost due to mis matching by supercell; enemy top players insanely strong compared to ours... one loss was our fault- had too many low levels in the war and one base down around #43 was missing a star...
This is one of the six clans I help run wars in:
http://i64.tinypic.com/15hh40n.jpg
I hope to have more weights to post soon; but I'm cutting back my play time... running so many accounts in every war - to track weight... is taking too much time.
Yes/ and no... depends on your build choices and what you need...
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Originally Posted by
ElectroWizzard
So from your observations, is TH8.5 still worth it?
Currently, I have 57K weight. I have only built the Queen (LVL8), new traps, aird, and tesla. All other defenses are Max TH8 level. Is my weight what you would expect, and is there any reason to wait on the additional Wiz Tower, Archer Tower? Or the XBows?
Last war my mirror was a 61K weight.
I will never build another wiz / mortar/ xbow/inferno etc... on any of my accounts... I don't want the weight... I will happily get 100% destroyed every time in multiplayer in exchange for having an almost guaranteed win in every clan war I fight... If supercell changed the multiplayer matching system to make us match against players of comparable WEIGHT - then it would be the perfect game... (instead of th or trophies)
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disclosure - You must have a solid clan - who knows and supports what you are doing - if you upgrade in a freaky way - you will be denied access to many of the clans in this game.. because their leaders will not understand and will simply call you RUSHED
If you want my advice - if your full th9 attack power - go to 10 now... its 900 gold to click next; you loose some pay day on th9 bases... but you get a third dark drill - that is amazing... I'm taking every account I own right up to 10 for that 3rd dark drill... even the ones that have th6 defenses - and my defenseless accounts... Dark elixer is such a pain to get - and its really the only thing I want... If you are like me; no use for gold... minimal use for elxer -- go to 10.. get your third dark drill -- keep your low weight as long as you can... when you have 20/20 heroes - drop down a pair of level 1 xbows... when you have 40/40 heroes - throw down the third xbow and an inferno or 2...
Doing defenses any earlier just hurts you in war... unless you want to be that big heavy defender up top denying the enemy clan some stars... while you attack 6 lower for 2 stars 90% cause your weak on offense.
Every clan needs a heavy defender who can keep the enemy from getting 3 stars - they also need a very strong attacker to clear the top bases... one account can not be both form what I've seen... unless you are just an amazing player with epic skills who probably is all over youtube...
I have th9 bases that are at 40 to 45k weight - matching mid th8... full th9 attack power - guess what... they are all now sitting at th10 - getting full th10 attack power.. while matching up against th8 people...
My best base is a 65k th11 with 20/23/3 heroes. I don't know what you would call a 100% th8 that went to 8.5 - then 10 - then 11 - with only a handful of new defenses... and only some upgrades... but I would call it a clear winner every time its #1 in a war.. cause it matches up against mid th9 enemies who can not get 3 stars on me...