My math is fine... but your not wrong- or right either.
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Originally Posted by
peterpaiter
you continue to do wrong math... u say NO WEIGHT when the weight added it's for sure less than 1000 points and not enought considering the weight before to pass to the "1000" after...
I've been sitting at the same war weight on a couple accounts for EIGHT MONTHS...
Every upgrade I do on those accounts -- may - have - some - weight... but guess what -- its not showing up... Therefore - I can honestly say NO WEIGHT for them...
With witches - lava hounds - etc -- I've upgraded them on no less than 8 test accounts so far; zero new weight on all of them... Hypothetical - if some of these items have 'some' weight (which they may) - you would THINK that on a test of 8 accounts - at least ONE would jump up in weight... yet none yet...
Sure its a small sample size... I'll be sure to update you after I've finished testing it 20 or 25 more times... -- which is something I will continue to do on various other test accounts throughout the next half a year...
If my human eyes can detect zero change in war weight after upgrades -- then as far as this experiment goes -- ZERO WEIGHT IS ADDED...
Until you - or someone else - finds a way to actually mathmatically explain the weight increases... then this info that I've provided is still - currently - the best set of VALID info available anywhere.
I can not explain why adding a new air defense adds zero weight - sometimes -- but 1k others... -- other than to refer everyone to the recent changes to th6/7 with a third air def being unlocked early... supercell seems to have fudged the numbers and created another secret Tiered weight range... All we can do is realize- that Air def MAY add 1k - or it may not... but generally 1k per upgrade is as close as we can guess at this time...
Same with Wiz towers... 3k at th6 - 1500 at th9 /10 ... who knows what at 11 as I didnt test it...
The point of this topic is to help people realize - which defenses and offenses hold a greater impact in the eyes of the developers... so we can upgrade intelligently.
I've tested my 'no weights' -- EVERYTHING that I have listed as having zero weight - is being added to defenseless accounts... And guess what?
Town hall 8 and 9 now -- with ALL the things unlocked that have 'zero weight' -- and guess what... I still have only 1k war weight because - i only have the one - level 1 cannon --
If all these things combined equal less than 1000 --- then they must really way a LOT less.. like 5 points or something... because im getting ZERO weight added when doing them ALL - combined - together on one account...
Now this is great for me; but to publicly post this where sypercell devs can see it.. may lead to them changing it and ruining my experiment... I hope not... They've already messed up a lot of other things since I started 14 months ago...
It would be nice if supercell would - publicly - release their match making system numbers for the world to see - all the weights and algorithms.. would be nice to see (in game) - 'upgrading this will add X weight to your account) written in fine print under the details of every upgrade...
Would also be nice if it was a standard simple system with no sliding scales- no tiered effects and no mystery tweaks...
But thats asking too much... I mean.. only a company like Blizzard is smart enough to release data like that to help their gamers understand the numbers... and we all know Supercell can't compete against Blizzard entertainment... (can they?) -- not judging from the pitiful ai that this game has... ♥♥♥♥... no armory - nothing...
I dont care what anyone says...
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Originally Posted by
kevs926
Ash youtuber said offensive weight does not add war weight, and war weight is not equal to cw mm weight
I have shown proof that offensive items DO add war weight.
Dragons -
Perfect example.. every level of dragon you unlock and upgrade- adds 1k weight..
Offensive weights are overly low - most have no visable impact from upgrade to upgrade...but some DO show war weight.
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Regarding WALL weights..
I had one account -that only did wall upgrades...
I did 10 walls - 20 walls - 50 walls -100 walls - eventually all the walls -- then started upgrading SOMe then some MORE then some MORE.. and i could never really nail down any weights - it was soo insignificant that it was a waste of my time and I stopped bothering with it...
All I can say - is buying a TON of htem - and upgrading them all 5 or 6 times - will show some weight... how much? I dont know - but its LESS than one wiz or mortar... So in the grand scheme of things - walls are a no brainer to upgrade...
LMAO -- The Trolling continues!
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Originally Posted by
rhymquimghyf
I tried being polite to you Rhym.. i give up.. your just wrong... FYI I posted an updated version of my clan war log -- 107 wins 7 losses now -- HALF OF OUR WARS are PERFECT max stars... Most of the others are missing 1 or 2...
To rub some salt into the wound Rhym- GUESS WHAT I DO WHEN WE LOOSE A WAR?-- I kick out the top 5 players - and put MY OWN - RUSHED / HYBRID ACCOUNTS - on the TOP of the war map... -- THEN WE WIN.... every time... - we only loose when I allow certain other players to hold the top few spots... -and only when supercell mis matches us by 15 to 25k weight in the top bases... I personally dont want to war with a bunch of accounts every day... so I slowly remove my accounts one at a time each war as the 'new' players prove they have skills...
Everyone in my clan is following my upgrade advice - This topic alone has recruited quite a few new members into my clan... Smart players who GET IT... and who 6 star every war - much higher than 'mirror'...
My clans overall success in war -- has gone UP UP UP higher and higher - and we have 30 out of 45 members in war - every war- following my advice... THE ONLY loss we have had in the past 18 wars - has been due to ONE fluke on supercells part - where we got a mis match enemy 1- that was 21k heavier than us - and =with my #5 on the war map hybrid account - we still got 2 star 66% on it... it was US 1 shy of perfect vs THEM at perfect...
Once my accounts have had time to skew my upgrade method even more extremely - I guarantee we will win every war we are given - GUARANTEE it... -- if we dont 'win' it will be a tie- perfect vs perfect... because - (this hurts you = i know)- My info - and advice is RIGHT ON THE MONEY.
The only reason I can think of for you continuing to complain about my topic.. is either
1: - you really dont get it.. and are clueless
2:- you dont want the rest of the gaming community to know these tricks; because your afraid supercell may tweak things and end this from being viable
3:= your past research - (which was not nearly as detailed or thorough as mine ) gave you a different result - and you are bullheaded and refuse to see that - I'm right... - BRING YOUR ACCOUNT OVER TO MY WAR CLAN- i'LL PROVE THAT i'M RIGHT..
Now -- I love ash... I watch his stuff- follow his advice - I imagine he has some inside scoop into the game design... - but there are some things - that he said -- that are -- WRONG...
FLAT OUT WRONG... -and I've seen proof in game - that he is WRONG... at least on a few points;
(And I welcome the almighty Ash to reply here; would be honored... )
QUOTE FROM ASH:
Upgrading a troop, for example, will not provide you any additional standing or rank on the map.
RESPONSE FROM ME:
Example 1 that proves he is WRONG:
TWO identical accounts - 100% the same... in every way - except:
One has dragons... one does not -
Dragons -- add weight - unlocking a dragon on one account - will add 1k GOLD to your account -- and - your dragon account will appear HIGHER ON THE RANKING than the other account!!
Example 2 that proves he is WRONG:
-Two identical accounts - one has bigger camps - and a higher castle -
The one with more attack power - (offensive strength) -- Will appear higher on the map!
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QUOTE FROM ASH:
There is no denying that if you hold off on building heavy defensive buildings your war weight will smaller. But if you instead focus on offense you’ll still be gaining weight and at the end of the day you may be robbing Peter to pay Paul. Essentially, you’ll have a huge edge when attacking bases one town hall below you (9.5 attacking a 9, for example) but your “true mirror” won’t be a Town Hall 9 but rather there will be a good shot it will be a Town Hall 10. So the trade off is providing a better chance to 3 star lower on the map but setting your clan up with a disadvantage when it comes to the most important defensive units that can stop 3 star attacks.
RESPONSE FROM ME:
-my hybrid accounts will not be attacking lower on the map.. they will be attacking 10 or 15 slots higher - giving away an easy 3 star loss to the enemy low level players in exchange for earning a 3 star win vs the enemy strongest...
QUOTE FROM ASH:
What about the defenseless bases?
RESPONSE FROM ME:
Lets look at my defenseless... a town hall NINE - - with a town hall FIVER mirror.. -that th5 player is most likely a noob.. he will not be able to kill a 30 sclot castle - with a king and queen defending... so - they will have to try a th6 or 7 to kill my little defenseless... wasting an attack in the middle...
MEANWHILE -- My defenseless - with Max LavaLoon - 220 camps -30 castle and full th9 spells... will EASILY 3 star their top th9 #1 base...
Its a No brainer trade off that only helps your clan - a lot.
