It doesn't suprise me when people accept a bad idea

Well based on your post OP It's obvious you don't like the update. Which is up to you it's your game. I am okay with it not hopping mad or overly excited in either case but the game is still more than playable. What has me curious is why all the Debbie Downers and that's the term I use for those not only against the update but that I think would actually Stone to Death a member of the SC staff if they saw them on the street..lol..Anyways I'm curious how all the statisticians, mathematical gurus and mobile game voodoo doctors come up with all these facts and figures without the benefit of actual game data. This last part is an in general comment. All the comments that say the company is going out of business or will be soon are just laughable. inb4 someone on here says they run a billion dollar company and knows what they are talking about. Anyways my 3 1/2 cents worth but when I'm still playing this game 7 months from now don't say I didn't tell you so.......

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Originally Posted by Vicodin1375

This is the arguement of a ten year old, with the guns to the head and stuff... At least present a more mature example.

Anyways, what they did was a bad business move that made a lot of customers unhappy. It wasnt the best decision it seems. If in the end they earn less money because of the update, we will know the update was for a fact, bad. If they keep making millions a day like they used too, the update is good for their business model.

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Undermining someone's argument by such a senseless point and the fact that holding a gun at someone is an old proverb really doesn't help you.

Back to the point... He is right no one forced people to buy gems. They purely bought it for their own enjoyment.

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Originally Posted by ayih

You can't argue against hard facts. Before the update I could get 1.1 million gold and elixir per hour without sniping and unboosted. After the update it's closer to 250k per hour. You can hand a person a lemon and say it's sweet but some are going to see it's lie faster than others.

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Those are only YOUR "hard facts," and they certainly don't account for everybody's experience. You're initial post was actually quite decent, but you fell into your own trap.

I like this post. It proves what I've been saying all this time. This condescending jerk actually sees more loot as synonymous with a better game. He doesn't even seem to consider anything else.

Apart from that, many people don't raid in sessions and you've completely neglected that.

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Originally Posted by ayih

It was a very simple question: How much loot per hour did you get before the update? The answer is you don't know. So when you say "better" it's based on what? What's better?

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The outcome of 3 attacks which I am consistently able to make money on after the update vs the outcome of 1 attack which I was consistently able to make money on before the update. All other sources of income and cost stay the same (collectors and war input vs raids in high leagues output).

I have never had trouble finding bases with lots of loot nor have I had trouble cracking bases in the Master & Champ leagues for the bonus.

3 attacks for every 1 defense vs 1 attack per 1 defense is not a subjective measurement.

I don't measure "per hour" because I don't sit Barching for hours, so there was nothing to measure. I have already admitted that Barching dead bases for hours used to earn a lot more loot. There are other play styles that earn more loot post update, mine included.

Well before, I got 300k loot per hour, except I only did 2-3 attacks during the day, since my army took around an hour to make (So 600-900k gold for the entire day).

After the update I'm still doing 2-3 attacks, but getting around 250k loot per hour, since my army now takes 2 hours, but since I'm only do 2-3 raids, I'm getting 800-1.2mil gold for the day.

So yes, I am accepting this "bad idea" under my circumstances as a casual.

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Originally Posted by lolnage1

lets also take into account not everyone is maxed th10 so they won't lose much resources or just won't get attacked and I'm guessing you have max heroes you have been going to tell others loot is amazing of course it is for maxed th10s ...

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The stats I posted were on my relatively new TH10 account, which still has mostly TH9 troops, level 30 heroes, and no new defenses such as infernos (I am going TH9.5).

My raids consist of just archers and goblins, with heroes and clan castle troops. Anyone could do what I'm doing.

Can I say what my loot per hour was prepatch no clue I wasnt keeping record of up like most people.

All I know is Prepatch all my builders where going research going and had lots of loot to spare. Postpatch my situation is the same.

But you are only taking about loot, the patch wasnt about more or less loot, but about opening up the attack and defend game. Wich I feel it has done. I am having a much better time climbing leagues and making attack due to the changes.

Prepatch my last climb was a mindless TH snipathon.

Postpatch it has been all out attacks on harder bases with good armies much more fun.

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Originally Posted by JakeTheGrate

Please expand on this idea. Did SuperCell hold a gun to these people's heads and force them to buy the gems? Did they hold a gun to their head and force them to open the app and play for hours on end?

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Of course they didn't. The Swedes don't really carry guns... Think about it this way: I buy a car. In this world you cannot sell cars. Once you buy it, it is yours until it you throw it away. After 3 years of oil changes and maintenance, the car company says, "we shouldn't have let you all drive so fast and so often. Under new rules, you can drive at a top speed of 45 mph. You must stop driving after 3 hours and take a 2 hour break. The oil you need to use is more expensive and parts will be priced based upon your driving skill. Of course, you can pay us money and you don't have to follow these rules."

That wouldn't upset me all, because I wasn't forced to buy that car.

Those who say the update is better...😂😂😂....yeah I believe these people don't know what farming is....they just don't 😂😂😂😂.... But as I've said before my base is couple weeks away from being 100% max again so.....good luck on maxing yours 😂👍....