The Clash economy is set up this way :

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Originally Posted by Chris4stars85

3/4 attacks a day is more than enough to progress. That's what I was doing pre 1gem boost and that had all builders busy...15/20minutes of your time. Isn't a big ask? Especially as you're actually mean to enjoy playing the game (as oppose to ONLY enjoy progressing)

1 attack for every defense to recoup losses allows you to progress with 3.5milmof each loot a week + war bonus....that's also progression

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Where is the nexting time in your theory of 15/20 minutes? It's like you assume that as soon as I hit the first next of these 4 attacks I will get that 300k+ resources base. Casuals CAN progress, but not even nearly as fast as they used to pre-update and it just takes long time to save for a single upgrade now. Whether you understand what the majority of casual players experience or not that's up to you, active player. I'm done explaining to someone who doesn't even know what he's talking about.

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Originally Posted by Qatar101

Where is the nexting time in your theory of 15/20 minutes? It's like you assume that as soon as I hit the first next of these 4 attacks I will get that 300k+ resources base. Casuals CAN progress, but not even nearly as fast as they used to pre-update and it just takes long time to save for a single upgrade now. Whether you understand what the majority of casual players experience or not that's up to you, active player. I'm done explaining to someone who doesn't even know what he's talking about.

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Yeh I've seen your chat in other threads - considering I've maxed everything pretty casually over the years and played from the beginning - inknow what in talking about.

I spent a few minutes maximum nexting. always.

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Originally Posted by Qatar101

Doesn't matter how strong your defense is, it all depends on one question. What TH level are you and what is the progress?

Let me make the question more easier to understand to show you what i'm hinting at by giving an example. Say you are TH8, and like you said good defense, awesome. But, how good defense? Then it means that the defenses are TH8 level defenses so you can somewhat defend against TH8 or below. Now, what happens when you upgrade a TH? That's right, TH8 defenses at TH9. How can you save up now when all TH9 and TH10 will blast your base with minimal effort due to not good defense?

Know what you're saying before talking.

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I'm actually a mid powered th 9 sir. Know what your saying before reading.

supercell doesn't care about th sniping and proof of it was it was happening for 3 years and was once even stated as being a viable strategy.

the problem is free to play people were advancing too fast and had no real reason to buy gems. this entire update was made so people have to buy gems to proceed at any decent rate. sure you can still "make money" and upgrade defenses without gemming but it is now five times slower.

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Originally Posted by Qatar101

The new economic system is not broken, but people will get less loot than before due to many reasons, one being the fact of no snipes and TH as a 5th storage. But, it IS broken for casual players. Casual players can't progress well anymore without putting in the time, and I know you will admit I'm right.

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Couldnt of put it better myself.

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Originally Posted by Qatar101

Doesn't matter how strong your defense is, it all depends on one question. What TH level are you and what is the progress?

Let me make the question more easier to understand to show you what i'm hinting at by giving an example. Say you are TH8, and like you said good defense, awesome. But, how good defense? Then it means that the defenses are TH8 level defenses so you can somewhat defend against TH8 or below. Now, what happens when you upgrade a TH? That's right, TH8 defenses at TH9. How can you save up now when all TH9 and TH10 will blast your base with minimal effort due to not good defense?

Know what you're saying before talking.

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Well said Qatar

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Originally Posted by Chris4stars85

They always could 'blast your base'

Are you annoyed you have to defend now?

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Thanks for your input chris very helpful, go back to troll school.

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Originally Posted by Qatar101

No. I could not bother less about it anymore. I got many things to do in real life than just facing a screen like a geek. I'm just saying is that casual players can no longer progress due to the fact of no free shield upon TH snipe and partially 5th storage TH.

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Now everyone picks on everyone lower so everyone who is not TH11, TH10 or maxd th9 will get smashed . i used to push out a TH9 defense upgrade and a DE upgrade pre update as a casual player now upgrades are just like wall grinding boring plus you lose defesnse, shall i Upgrade my Queen to 13 6 days, may as well shut up shop. come back in a week

Bronze league is looking good

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Originally Posted by crushedhab

Well said Qatar



Thanks for your input chris very helpful, go back to troll school.



Now everyone picks on everyone lower so everyone who is not TH11, TH10 or maxd th9 will get smashed . i used to push out a TH9 defense upgrade and a DE upgrade pre update as a casual player now upgrades are just like wall grinding boring plus you lose defesnse, shall i Upgrade my Queen to 13 6 days, may as well shut up shop. come back in a week

Bronze league is looking good

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Haha, merely pointing out slightly flawed logic that's all... the crux of many peoples problems is purely down to having to defend now

It's sometimes just buried amongst a whole load of other irrational nonsense

Is really arguing with your missus. She's frustrated at everything but the fundamental reason is that she's hungry and can't see it

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Originally Posted by Chris4stars85

3/4 attacks a day is more than enough to progress. That's what I was doing pre 1gem boost and that had all builders busy...15/20minutes of your time. Isn't a big ask? Especially as you're actually mean to enjoy playing the game (as oppose to ONLY enjoy progressing)

1 attack for every defense to recoup losses allows you to progress with 3.5milmof each loot a week + war bonus....that's also progression

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Still people with the 4 attacks per day is "casual". How often do you defend each day? 2, maybe 3 times? I would guess that is the case for most players. Maybe less if you have no loot and don't get attacked. The number of attacks and defences must be equal - so the average number of attackers per day would be 2 or 3. So if you are doing more than that, you are attacking more than average - hardly "casual"