I've Had About All I Can Take

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Originally Posted by Adevati

Is it Groundhog Day again?

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bill murry is the bomb!!!

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Originally Posted by themariofan

I would actually say that they do work for their bases, just IRL and not sitting in front of a screen for hours on end. Gemming is a LEGIT way to advance your base--bunnies are not. Do I think it's worth it? No. But is it unfair? Of course not.

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That's a bit of an assumption. They work for their bases IRL? Or maybe they're trust-fund-babies or spoiled, overpayed, or simply unencumbered by the burden a social life? lol


Gemming is not a LEGIT way to do anything -it is a cheap (as in underhanded), pathetic way (imo) to satisfy a need for instant gratification.

I assure you that most barchers, gibarchers, snipers, and every other person out there like em....did not achieve progress at a monumentally faster rate than "skilled" go-anything/lava-whatever users.

Dead bases render an average of about 250k of each...and most of them troop-dump just like you gowipers and other storage-raiders do (which means a considerably smaller yield...for a considerably faster camp). In essence, they progress at similar rates.

So, arguing that it's an advantage or unfair is a moot point. Take your alleged skills and impose the need for it on the masses in clan wars -leave MM to the casuals.

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Originally Posted by 4M07H3RRU5514

There is a skill associated with maximizing return on resources. GiBArch is quick, inexpensive and allows the player to remain actively engaged in the game.

Building war armies obviously takes time and I think many players associated that with clan wars or trophy pushing.

The point isn't to value one meta over the other, but to highlight the variety of available, supported or encouraged gameplay.

The current approach, where THE MOST IMPORTANT STRUCTURE can be destroyed, and yet NOT GRANT A SHIELD is as asinine of a solution as the old meta, which granted 100% league win bonus at 2% damage and let players click battle with one Hero and a couple of archers or minions.

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Encouraging raiding dead bases is like encouraging playing with NPCs in an online multiplayer game. Except worse, because it's closer to having NPCs that don't move.
Your last sentence seems to be some weird conceptual argument, because in practice the MOST IMPORTANT STRUCTURE would be protected wouldn't it? And if it is, how would it be taken without you getting a shield? I see no reason to look at things that way, and it falls under the same category as arguments like 'how does a dragon fit in the clan castle'.

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Originally Posted by Rykan

When people try to say that an aspect of the game should be removed because they see it as an unfair advantage, it is a fancy way of saying: "I worked way harder bc I didn't know about this exploit; make them work just as hard"

Gemmers aren't working hard for their bases. Why don't you harass them, Anabelle?


You would've never seen me singing high praises when the devs remove something from the game that doesn't have a direct and negative impact on the community. Now, I just can't wait for it to be you people's turn.

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The difference between gemming and TH Sniping/Dead Base farming, is the principles that separate them both.

Gemming is a feature that's recommended for faster progression at a cost of real money (also a resource if you think of it) while TH Sniping/Dead Base farming, although in game, was such a riskless and successful way of progressing that it made the original intent of the game void and to the point where it was foolish to not do it.

However, it also meant that a lot of players that used this method exploited this loophole for a few years before it finally (at long last) was prohibited from the game.

Ethically, speaking, TH sniping/dead base farming was wrong even though it could be done. So many people enjoyed this exploit and assumed it was an intention from SC to have it be apart of the game.. until the update happened 3 weeks ago and thinks just went sideways for the exploit lovers.

The time has come to ask, do you really feel like you've truly earned your village (speaking to the low league dead base farmers and dedicated TH snipers) now experiencing the same feeling as how the "other players" that were playing the game pre-update the way Supercell intended for the game to be?

Morals and ethics matter, they really do.

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Originally Posted by Genos1213

I see no reason to look at things that way, and it falls under the same category as arguments like 'how does a dragon fit in the clan castle'.

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How does a dragon fit in there anyway?

On the original subject:
The TH was supposed to be the most important, but there was a perverse incentive for people to treat it as the least important.
SuperCell removed that incentive.

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Originally Posted by Rykan

When people try to say that an aspect of the game should be removed because they see it as an unfair advantage, it is a fancy way of saying: "I worked way harder bc I didn't know about this exploit; make them work just as hard"

Gemmers aren't working hard for their bases. Why don't you harass them, Anabelle?

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Most of those that support the removal of TH sniping, myself included, have used it. Yes, I left my TH's outside. I attacked TH's that were outside. Does that mean I hate that can't do that anymore? NO! SC did the right thing, IMHO.
They should have done it sooner, though, and this day may not have ever came. It could not have taken them 3 years to see that TH sniping was a problem, but they waited that long to fix it.

Gemmers aren't working hard, eh?
Tell that to your parents, tell it to your aunts and uncles.
Yes, if gemmers are PAYING their HARD EARNED money, then yes, they are working hard for it!
If you think otherwise, you need to learn the truth about money and family finances, etc.

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Originally Posted by Wendle

A quick note to say the Popeye theme started playing in my head when I saw your thread title.

Now back to your regularly scheduled posts..

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I too, had that happen! LOL

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Originally Posted by Rykan

That's a bit of an assumption. They work for their bases IRL? Or maybe they're trust-fund-babies or spoiled, overpayed, or simply unencumbered by the burden a social life? lol
They could probably be children that just take their parents credit card, you never know lol

Gemming is not a LEGIT way to do anything -it is a cheap (as in underhanded), pathetic way (imo) to satisfy a need for instant gratification.
It is legit. You pay for it, regardless if it's your money or not, you gave money to the company and you expect that instant gratification.
I assure you that most barchers, gibarchers, snipers, and every other person out there like em....did not achieve progress at a monumentally faster rate than "skilled" go-anything/lava-whatever users.
Probably not... Depends on how active they are, how much loot they take each attack, etc. not just the "skill" involved.
Dead bases render an average of about 250k of each...and most of them troop-dump just like you gowipers and other storage-raiders do (which means a considerably smaller yield...for a considerably faster camp). In essence, they progress at similar rates.
Answered above
So, arguing that it's an advantage or unfair is a moot point. Take your alleged skills and impose the need for it on the masses in clan wars -leave MM to the casuals.

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Answers are in bold. I know I'm not the guy that you quoted but I'm here to help after all...

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Originally Posted by Anabelle0

How does a dragon fit in there anyway?

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He folds his wings, tucks tail between legs, bows head to ground, and kisses his dignity goodbye. :P

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Originally Posted by Rykan

That's a bit of an assumption. They work for their bases IRL? Or maybe they're trust-fund-babies or spoiled, overpayed, or simply unencumbered by the burden a social life? lol

You're also making assumptions here.

Gemming is not a LEGIT way to do anything -it is a cheap (as in underhanded), pathetic way (imo) to satisfy a need for instant gratification.

If it was cheap, why would it be included? If it was "intended" that every single person should progress without gems, why do they exist? Why didn't we all just pay $0.99 when we downloaded and be done with it?

There's also more assumptions--not everyone who buys gems does it for instant gratification. Many do it just to support the game that they have played and loved (and use them to boost barracks and gem time, not gem resources).

I assure you that most barchers, gibarchers, snipers, and every other person out there like em....did not achieve progress at a monumentally faster rate than "skilled" go-anything/lava-whatever users.

Faster? Not really. More efficiently? Definitely.

Dead bases render an average of about 250k of each...and most of them troop-dump just like you gowipers and other storage-raiders do (which means a considerably smaller yield...for a considerably faster camp). In essence, they progress at similar rates.

So, arguing that it's an advantage or unfair is a moot point. Take your alleged skills and impose it on the masses in clan wars -leave MM to the casuals.

I never said that I was any more skilled than you or anyone else. I simply believe that gemming, while an advantage, is not remotely unfair, because it has been a part of the game (and mobile gaming in general) from the beginning.

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Responses in bold.

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Originally Posted by Anabelle0

What do you mean "you people"??

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White knights and trolls