Loot is great! Here is the proof

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December 28th, 2015
andrgin

Loot is great! Here is the proof

A lot of players claim they do not find any loot. This thread is here to proof the opposit. No I am not simply posting a screenshot of 3 raids where I got lucky after nexting for ages. I have recorded 3 full boosting sessions with 3 of my accounts showing not only all attacks, but all nexting as well. The only time I have paused for a few minutes was sometimes on longer periods when I was only building troops (you can check the ressources on top if you dont believe me). Sorry the audio comments are in German, because I was doing the videos for my clanmates. I know I cant proof that, but these are the only 3 videos I have recorded so far. I did not record 100 and pick the best. This are all realistic values that you can get with the same strategy and some skill. I was even raiding on my phone for recording, so my attacks have not been the best as well.

Session1: Recorded on december 23rd 2015 (a few hours after 1 gem boost started)
TH7: Farming Troops and army camps maxed, no king (except last raid) with heal, strategy works with lvl3 troops (and I suppose high th6) as well.

Strategy: Giant healer with archers
Trophy range: Sub 800
Farming target: Gold and elixir

Gold: 1188K
Elixir: 868K
DE: 1.8K

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY-M...VfsN3I&index=1

Session2: Recorded on december 27th 2015
Early TH9: I only have a lvl3 queen, 2 army camps and the cc upgraded yet, but my spell factory was in upgrade, so no elixir spells. Should work with mid to high th8 as well if not even better because of less loot penalty. Requested maxed giants for support
Strategy: GiBarch with wall breakers, goblins and earthquake, doing th snipes + sniping unprotected collectors while troops are building and doing collector/storage raids
Trophy range: Sub 900
Farming target: Elixir

Gold: 2072K
Elixir: 2254K
DE: 6.4K

Note: Because of the time bug boosting session was about 1h15min because I needed to drop trophies very much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIqc...PS60WDzJVfsN3I

Session 3: Recorded on december 27th 2015
High th10 max troops, heroes 28/29
Strategy: GiBarch with wall breakers and goblins, jump/quake (every attack) with rage if needed. Both spell factories working all the time. No cc troops requested
Trophy range: Low master 3
Farming Target: DE

Gold: 2540K
Elixir: 1309K
DE: 20.9K

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaO_...PS60WDzJVfsN3I
December 28th, 2015
dazxz

lol

Loot is great? Only for gemmers like you. You were boosting barracs, and spell factories... lol Try to farm like that without boosting, you'll probably can't even do 1 attack every hour. So, your "Great loot" would be max 400k G 400k E and 3k Dark per hour.
December 28th, 2015
ThatAsianBradah

I do not condone low leagues farming as "seeing a lot of loot". I see that as "a lot of trading loot back and forth from players". Being down in low leagues does not generate resources into the economy.

It takes loot from the working weak and poor and gives it to the stronger player.

Th6s-8s are fighting for their lives down there to survive and the TH9s-11s make it so miserable for them over there. It's sad.
December 28th, 2015
Shaddowknight942

Soon there will be no loot for anyone
December 28th, 2015
andrgin

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazxz

Loot is great? Only for gemmers like you. You were boosting barracs, and spell factories... lol Try to farm like that without boosting, you'll probably can't even do 1 attack every hour. So, your "Great loot" would be max 400k G 400k E and 3k Dark per hour.

Wow you are too greedy to even spend. 30 cents on a hobby per hour? Please tell me what other hobbies do you have that cost less? Go to a cinema and you pay 10$. I am not doing heavy gemming, I just pay my share of keeping the servers online. You dont pay a cent for this game and are wondering why Supercell does not care about you.

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Originally Posted by ThatAsianBradah

I do not condone low leagues farming as "seeing a lot of loot". I see that as "a lot of trading loot back and forth from players". Being down in low leagues does not generate resources into the economy.

It takes loot from the working weak and poor and gives it to the stronger player.

Th6s-8s are fighting for their lives down there to survive and the TH9s-11s make it so miserable for them over there. It's sad.

My th7 still gets attacked by everyone. My th9 is an 8.5 and gets smashed by everyone and my th10 is up in master. So what are actually trying to tell me?

Btw. the idea of sub 800 is not to pick on weak targets, but to drop so far you are seeing a bit of clouds (only a few seconds). The search algorithm widens and exposes all the inactive bases plus fighting below 1000 generates trophies that push the average trophy level and league bonus. Every little snipe and every little trophy drop genererates 1 trophy. In this hour I pushed I generated at least 100 trophies. If every player does this only once a month champion will be like master in half a year.

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Originally Posted by Shaddowknight942

Soon there will be no loot for anyone

I really doubt that. There are a lot of dead bases up there and if the masses start going down, you will have the same effect in high silver as well. In this case loot does not disappear by everybody going down. It appears because more players want to get down instead of up.
December 28th, 2015
BurkeKnight

Hmmm.... Really?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazxz

Loot is great? Only for gemmers like you. You were boosting barracs, and spell factories... lol Try to farm like that without boosting, you'll probably can't even do 1 attack every hour. So, your "Great loot" would be max 400k G 400k E and 3k Dark per hour.

So, he gemmed to boost.
Big deal. You get gems by SC when deal with obstacles, achievements and gem boxes.

Right now, when those vids were done, they could have been done with that, so you can't say that those not spending money for gems, could not do the same. With barracks boosts at 5 gems each, and production at 1 gem each, a gem box would cover it.
December 28th, 2015
ThatAsianBradah

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrgin

Wow you are too greedy to even spend. 30 cents on a hobby per hour? Please tell me what other hobbies do you have that cost less? Go to a cinema and you pay 10$. I am not doing heavy gemming, I just pay my share of keeping the servers online. You dont pay a cent for this game and are wondering why Supercell does not care about you.

My th7 still gets attacked by everyone. My th9 is an 8.5 and gets smashed by everyone and my th10 is up in master. So what are actually trying to tell me?

Btw. the idea of sub 800 is not to pick on weak targets, but to drop so far you are seeing a bit of clouds (only a few seconds). The search algorithm widens and exposes all the inactive bases plus fighting below 1000 generates trophies that push the average trophy level and league bonus. Every little snipe and every little trophy drop genererates 1 trophy. In this hour I pushed I generated at least 100 trophies. If every player does this only once a month champion will be like master in half a year.

I really doubt that. There are a lot of dead bases up there and if the masses start going down, you will have the same effect in high silver as well. In this case loot does not disappear by everybody going down. It appears because more players want to get down instead of up.

Supercell has been removing A LOT of inactive bases even if it's down sub 800. I wouldn't be surprised if bases that are inactive for less than 2 days get taken out of the queue line all at once.

What I'm trying to say about everyone smashing each other in low leagues is that "You may be getting loot from weaker bases that may or may not be inactive, and you may be getting destroyed too, but the vast resources won't last long down there."

Supercell has made it clear that they don't want anybody farming dead and inactive bases. They'll take out all of those in due time so nobody gets to farm filled collectors.
December 28th, 2015
Mattrim

The OP and I have vastly different opinions regarding the definition of proof. I've been to the moon and it is indeed made of cheese, my saying so is proof.
December 28th, 2015
Rykan

You Lost Us at "3 Full Boosting Sessions"

We are all well-aware that gemming is the only *treatment, currently available, to deal with the loot void left behind by SC's greed-motivated update.
December 28th, 2015
WiseGuyClasher

You actually just made a great case for the people who believe this game is ruined now. Loot is great! If you gem like hell and play the game for hours straight... Otherwise the game is screwed.
December 28th, 2015
Monkeyhole

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Originally Posted by andrgin

Btw. the idea of sub 800 is not to pick on weak targets, but to drop so far you are seeing a bit of clouds (only a few seconds). The search algorithm widens and exposes all the inactive bases plus fighting below 1000 generates trophies that push the average trophy level and league bonus. Every little snipe and every little trophy drop genererates 1 trophy. In this hour I pushed I generated at least 100 trophies. If every player does this only once a month champion will be like master in half a year.

Just what the community wants more trophies
December 28th, 2015
Selina90

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrgin

A lot of players claim they do not find any loot. This thread is here to proof the opposit.

It only proves that you scored 3 times... good for you...

We are used too more steady income, not winning the lottery now and then...

I raided like 6-7 mill elexir and gold + 10-15k dark every day before te update...

Now.. im down 90% of that....

So please let us rant in peace :/
December 28th, 2015
Jont828

This is just a side effect of winter boosting.
December 28th, 2015
andrgin

Quote:

Originally Posted by BurkeKnight

So, he gemmed to boost.
Big deal. You get gems by SC when deal with obstacles, achievements and gem boxes.

Right now, when those vids were done, they could have been done with that, so you can't say that those not spending money for gems, could not do the same. With barracks boosts at 5 gems each, and production at 1 gem each, a gem box would cover it.

Well actually the gems from my th7 and th9 account are from bushes.

At my th10 account I admit buying a few gems, but 3000 of the gems you see is the reward for getting to master and champion on defense (actually got to champion on defense twice. Once during sneak peeks and once after the update).

Btw. what sense would it make to do a farming tutorial video without a boost. You would have to wait 20 minutes just to hear me talking random stuff while my troops are building.

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Originally Posted by ThatAsianBradah

Supercell has been removing A LOT of inactive bases even if it's down sub 800. I wouldn't be surprised if bases that are inactive for less than 2 days get taken out of the queue line all at once.

Yes they do hide inactive bases and they have always done so. Otherwise you would not see a single active base at th2. Well they actually do not get hidden, but get a lowe priority and bases with a low priority only get shown when the search queue runs empty. Now with less cheap shields the search queue is much fuller and inactive bases are rarer. You need to go to lower leagues to find them.

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What I'm trying to say about everyone smashing each other in low leagues is that "You may be getting loot from weaker bases that may or may not be inactive, and you may be getting destroyed too, but the vast resources won't last long down there."

Honestly even on my 8.5 account the most damage I get is from forgetting to collect my mines. May be the fact that I was max th8 except for some missing skulls or my base layout, but still not many hard attacks. From time to time a super hard th10 comes to smash my base but in most cases it is a th8 barely getting 30% after getting some mines.

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Supercell has made it clear that they don't want anybody farming dead and inactive bases. They'll take out all of those in due time so nobody gets to farm filled collectors.

Yes they did and in my opinion this was a good decision. I like challenging fights after a few nexts much more than endless nexting for a 200K collector raid giving me the same. I have farmed a lot and would be a billionaire if you count all accounts and just collection loot is just boring after some time. With my th10 account I really enjoy the spell heavy GiBarch attacks against th9s.

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Originally Posted by Mattrim

The OP and I have vastly different opinions regarding the definition of proof. I've been to the moon and it is indeed made of cheese, my saying so is proof.

So what else do I need to supply for you to believe me? I have provided you with a full 1 hour video showing everything. Do I need to make a live raid with you watching so you belive me?
December 28th, 2015
DaiGuren

Just wait until after the end of the holiday boost
December 28th, 2015
stormnorman15

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Originally Posted by WiseGuyClasher

You actually just made a great case for the people who believe this game is ruined now. Loot is great! If you gem like hell and play the game for hours straight... Otherwise the game is screwed.

What's the problem in spending a few hours of your weekend doing heavy raiding while boosted? Its like saying having a heavy cod session with the boys on the weekend is stupid and unless you do it 24/7 your stats will be ruined
December 28th, 2015
NinetyEight

On first hand looting with boost?
What for people who can't afford it on daily bases?

On second hand even after getting nice loots one problem still awaits which is getting hammered and losing a great amount of resources which makes decent loots useless.

Face the reality don't hide behind self proclaimed Theories.
December 28th, 2015
andrgin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rykan

We are all well-aware that gemming is the only *treatment, currently available, to deal with the loot void left behind by SC's greed-motivated update.

Well you could do the same in 4 hours without boost, maybe more if you rely more on th sniping with your king and sniping collectors.

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Originally Posted by WiseGuyClasher

You actually just made a great case for the people who believe this game is ruined now. Loot is great! If you gem like hell and play the game for hours straight... Otherwise the game is screwed.

Well sorry but this is how f2p games work. You either play for free without fun, you pay a little bit of money to play the same with a lot of fun or you gem everything to max and dont play at all.

Well if you dont enjoy the game enough to play it for 1 hour straight, then you are screwed or at least you will not progress in the game. I am sorry for you, but why do you make a thread about bad loot? Just be honest and say "I dont enjoy farming even if loot is great and I dont want to spend any money".

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Originally Posted by Selina90

It only proves that you scored 3 times... good for you...

We are used too more steady income, not winning the lottery now and then...

I raided like 6-7 mill elexir and gold + 10-15k dark every day before te update...

Now.. im down 90% of that....

So please let us rant in peace :/

No this are the raids I am doing every day. Before I started the spell factory I did a 2.5 million elixir session. I agree the 20K on my th10 is above average, but from all the sessions I did so far since the update all of them have been 15+ except the first where I started in champion dropping down to find the sweet spot.

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Originally Posted by Jont828

This is just a side effect of winter boosting.

Yes I think you see a bit increase, but not much. The th7 session was 2 or 3 hours after boost started so no effect. I did several th9 sessions before the boost and everyone was above 1.5 million. Well I had my spell factory as well but hey this is early th9, the ugliest part of th9. With lvl10+ heroes and max troops it will be much easier again.