Poison Spell is unfair : A small tweak

Just this week , I recieved 2 MAXED witches ( Wow ! My favourite troop ! ). I was going to keep it for a Clan War attack which was 10 hours away. So 10 hours later , I found that someone had raided me 40%. What was shattering wasn't the loss of resources , but that the 2 witches died while defending : By a Poison Spell !!

That was totally outrageous !! My witches died without even a chance to defend. They were just lured outside and poisoned.

That is the really sad part of the Poison Spell. It is totally unfair. While it's purpose is to get rid of CC troops , that completely destroys the purpose of CC troops. They don't even get fair chance to live and defend the village.

So what I propose is that : Poison Spells can damage their targets as usual , but can't kill them . A Poison Spell can only decrease the HP of the defending troops to 10% or 5% of their max. HP. Thus their health can be significantly depleted and the they must be killed manually or using Lightning Spell.

Like the idea or like Poison the way it is : Please cast your votes and comment as to why you support or not support ! Thnx

Why would they revert something that they did in purpose?
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Think about this: poison spell = elixir cost, takes time to train = some people gem = $$$$$$
people who donate troops lose Elixir/Dark Elixir and it makes it harder to progress which in the end brings more $$$
with the poison spell killing it easily people need to donate more and more and more
This is fantastic for supercell.

This is in fact needed, with the poison spells making half donatable troops useless (and with donatable de spells more than 80%), it kind of makes poisons op with all of the other things it does. Why would a poison be able to kill every troop when it has the ability to make the cc easier to deal with? I would want the other abilities of the poison to be exploited more than the damage to give all troops a chance.

The only thing about this idea is it will make archers, wizards and witch from the cc just nearly as annoying as before the update of the de spells.

This idea makes sense. It means ALL Clan Castle troops would finally have a chance of defending, which I like, and people will not always just drop the Poison Spell and wait for it to run out: they would have to actually do something.

And if two Poison Spells are used, it still couldn't take the unit below 10% (or 5%, but I voted for 10) health right?

I disagree with this idea. Open another request and get another two witches; I know what you're asking for but I don't think the specific complaint warrants a change to the game. In fact, I think it's downright silly.

If anything, I think the area that should be most disagreed with is the expansion of the war attack timer. Now, attackers actually have the time to lure troops, drop a poison and just watch it burn.

Before SC added 30 ticks to the clock, you had to have a really swift and potent attack to be able to just tick seconds away with a poison. Now, we're experiencing it as an extremely common opening move. It's not the end of the world, but it does kind of screw with the dynamics of war quite a bit. I can understand the desire to add more time to the clock for max th10s and new th11s since there are so many buildings to destroy, but I think a 15 second expansion of the timer would have been a much better place to start.

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Originally Posted by rReuven

Why would they revert something that they did in purpose?
Think about this: poison spell = elixir cost, takes time to train = some people gem = $$$$$$
people who donate troops lose Elixir/Dark Elixir and it makes it harder to progress which in the end brings more $$$
with the poison spell killing it easily people need to donate more and more and more
This is fantastic for supercell.

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It costs very less DE ( below 150 at max. )and only 15 minutes to brew up , what $$$$$$ can SC get from that ?

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Originally Posted by uikluspe

This is in fact needed, with the poison spells making half donatable troops useless (and with donatable de spells more than 80%), it kind of makes poisons op with all of the other things it does. Why would a poison be able to kill every troop when it has the ability to make the cc easier to deal with? I would want the other abilities of the poison to be exploited more than the damage to give all troops a chance.
The only thing about this idea is it will make archers, wizards and witch from the cc just nearly as annoying as before the update of the de spells.

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Don't worry , they will be easily killed : they all will have less than 20 HP remaining...

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

This idea makes sense. It means ALL Clan Castle troops would finally have a chance of defending, which I like, and people will not always just drop the Poison Spell and wait for it to run out: they would have to actually do something.
And if two Poison Spells are used, it still couldn't take the unit below 10% (or 5%, but I voted for 10) health right?

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Thnx for supporting !! Yes , no matter how many Poison spells you spray , the CC troops won't die but can be weakened. Lightning can finish them off , but who will waste 2 slots to finish them ?

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Originally Posted by PokeManiac

It costs very less DE ( below 150 at max. )and only 15 minutes to brew up , what $$$$$$ can SC get from that ?


Don't worry , they will be easily killed : they all will have less than 20 HP remaining...


Thnx for supporting !! Yes , no matter how many Poison spells you spray , the CC troops won't die but can be weakened. Lightning can finish them off , but who will waste 2 slots to finish them ?

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I still don't get your point. A poison takes a space that a haste or a quake cannot and a poison spell eats up a lot of time from the clock if you don't couple it with attacking troops. As I mentioned, the poison was fairly well balanced prior to the clock change because pulling castle troops with a hog and then watching a poison burn left you with around 2:30 to get a full attack in...and that was if you were efficient kiting the castle troops out. Now, it becomes a very common opening move because the 30 opening seconds can be used to kill the castle troops and still have full time for an attack.

If anything should change with the poison, perhaps it would be to make it burn a touch slower to eat up some of that time they added. Maybe balance the slower damage by enhancing the slow effect at higher spell levels so that someone who is using it in conjunction with attacking troops (rather than just dropping it on a spot, sitting and watching troops die without having to do anything) gets a touch of a boost and those "poison drop+watch" attackers get less of an advantage.

I still say it should do the same damage that it currently does and that your desire to have it nerfed should be ignored.

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Originally Posted by DraakarDraekonis

I still don't get your point. A poison takes a space that a haste or a quake cannot and a poison spell eats up a lot of time from the clock if you don't couple it with attacking troops. As I mentioned, the poison was fairly well balanced prior to the clock change because pulling castle troops with a hog and then watching a poison burn left you with around 2:30 to get a full attack in...and that was if you were efficient kiting the castle troops out. Now, it becomes a very common opening move because the 30 opening seconds can be used to kill the castle troops and still have full time for an attack.

If anything should change with the poison, perhaps it would be to make it burn a touch slower to eat up some of that time they added. Maybe balance the slower damage by enhancing the slow effect at higher spell levels so that someone who is using it in conjunction with attacking troops (rather than just dropping it on a spot, sitting and watching troops die without having to do anything) gets a touch of a boost and those "poison drop+watch" attackers get less of an advantage.

I still say it should do the same damage that it currently does and that your desire to have it nerfed should be ignored.

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I don't mean any nerfing of the Poison spell !
My point is that it shouldn't kill a troop , just bring it down to a very low HP. They should have a chance to defend , after all they are the defending troop , the CC troops.

At the 30 ticks part , it will discourage the Poison spell users if you increase it's time too much ... a few secs like 10 seconds can be OK..

That's your fault. Never request clan castle troops and then let them get killed in a raid. I'd be kind of angry if you were in my clan and I gave you two witches for war and you carelessly let them die. I don't think I'd give you witches anymore until you cleaned up your practices.

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Originally Posted by PokeManiac

I don't mean any nerfing of the Poison spell !
My point is that it shouldn't kill a troop , just bring it down to a very low HP. They should have a chance to defend , after all they are the defending troop , the CC troops.

At the 30 ticks part , it will discourage the Poison spell users if you increase it's time too much ... a few secs like 10 seconds can be OK..

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..changing poison spells so that they *can't* kill troops (a level 1 poison won't kill a level 5 dragon by itself, after all) definitely would be nerfing them;that is what I am saying they should not do.

I don't think that defensive castle troops should definitely be given the chance to defend, but I think Supercell's recent change to the attack timer makes the attack that you are concerned with much easier to pull off. If they make the poison spell take longer to apply its current damage (say 10 more seconds) but increase the slowing effect, they would still allow the current attack but not give it so much of a boost as they did.