3 weeks later,was I wrong ?

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Capital doesn't apply in CoC.

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Sure it does. This game is nothing but a perpetual arms race.

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Originally Posted by Johnnyfsullivan

There is much less loot now, and there is data (both official and unofficial) to prove it. I hope SC tweaks it or goes back to the old multiplayer system. So disappointed. Other observations:

The complete change in the way the game is played in multiplayer has really thrown me, and most of the folks I interact with, for a loop. It seems best for the upper levels (champ and above) since there are more bases available for attacking (no white clouds for 20 minutes), but not for the lower folks. I am an extremely active an addicted player but also have a life outside of clan, so I budget my time. I lived by the TH snipe to help me get through and manage my 6 accounts. This new system is unreliable and frustrating. I also spend about $20 a month but refuse to pour money into the game now until Im' sure I'll continue playing it in the future. Here is some data I've collected based on my personal observations, but also verified by my clanmates:

- My junior TH11 is getting crushed. I can't save for any major upgrade right now. Just getting picked off at every level (Champion down to Silver...I've tried). BARCH farming is dead for TH10 and TH11. So I have to conduct elaborate attacks and I only have time for 1-2 a day. Going to focus on upgrading the cannon, wiz tower, and archer tower, and invest elixir into Grand Warden and walls. Can't save for Eagle Artillery right now, or research lab upgrade.

- I have two max TH9s. They are doing just fine. I invest all of my resources into walls and they rarely get raided. It's annoying to plan for wars, however, because I never know when I will get a shield. But that's a minor gripe.

- My mid TH9 is getting crushed. Can't save for any major upgrades so just investing in walls.

- My low / slightly rushed TH9 and low TH8 are just getting obliterated. Can't save for ANY significant upgrades. It's depressing. Close to giving up on the game all together.

Really miss the old way. Was their really any outrage in the community over the old system? I think SC was trying to accommodate the "whales'...their money makers...in the champion / titan league, along with trying to reduce bot farming so players spend their money on gems, but it could cost them in the long run. I only play for wars and the social aspect now, but without being able to do significant upgrades I'm worried I'll lost interest.

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Actually,high league(champ1+) players are suffering too,as many max TH10/11 came down to bronze

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Originally Posted by DraakarDraekonis

Sure it does. This game is nothing but a perpetual arms race.

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When you finish dumping all loot inside your TH,can I now take that loot? The answer is no,so your answer is irrelevant.That loot was removed from the economy,that is,lost forever.period.Its not that I don't understand what you're trying to say,but rather,that those laws don't exactly apply here.

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Originally Posted by Masky

Pre-update rubbish farmers could survive.Those 'rubbish' farmers used to play 1-3 times a day and could upgrade their walls without much pain.Now they can't,and that's the reason your clan chat is empty.

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This...

Those rubbish farmers (casuals) make up the largest segment of the player population IMO and we (SC and hardcore players) need them if the game is to thrive...

Just my two 2 halala...

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Originally Posted by Masky

When you finish dumping all loot inside your TH,can I now take that loot? The answer is no,so your answer is irrelevant.That loot was removed from the economy,that is,lost forever.period.Its not that I don't understand what you're trying to say,but rather,that those laws don't exactly apply here.

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...but spending your resources prior to other people stealing them is an essential part of the game. What would you do with your loot after you stole it? You'd start an upgrade and you'd be the one to take it out of the economy.

So my job is to stop you from doing that and steal all that I can from you before you can start your next upgrade so I can use it to start my own.

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Originally Posted by DraakarDraekonis

...but spending your resources prior to other people stealing them is an essential part of the game. What would you do with your loot after you stole it? You'd start an upgrade and you'd be the one to take it out of the economy.

So my job is to stop you from doing that and steal everything you've got before you can start your next upgrade so I can use it to start my own.

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And this is exactly what the new system wants to prevent.It wants the loot to pass through a thousand hands,all the while being burned(This time,I mean,BURNED,)by nexting costs and army costs.At the end of the day,elixir profit goes down by 2000%{figure of speech}

You were, but no still no one with a loud voice wants to hear you.

The game's made by people who cant even attack lol. How do you expect Supercell to get solid research on the updates they put out when non of their developers even bother to spend time playing the game like the average person. We've all seen the events.... Developers suck at the game...

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Originally Posted by iOSConfirmNotShowing

You were, but no still no one with a loud voice wants to hear you.

The game's made by people who cant even attack lol. How do you expect Supercell to get solid research on the updates they put out when non of their developers even bother to spend time playing the game like the average person. We've all seen the events.... Developers suck at the game...

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Agreed.If the devs had attacked with the lvl 3 witches before releasing the update,they would have realized they were OP

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And this is exactly what the new system wants to prevent.It wants the loot to pass through a thousand hands,all the while being burned(This time,I mean,BURNED,)by nexting costs and army costs.At the end of the day,elixir profit goes down by 2000%{figure of speech}

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So....I use the term "burn" differently than you do. Sure, I get what you're saying. Yes, endless nexting sinks gold but there are very few gold sinks in the game in the first place, so this shouldn't really be a big problem. Army costs have not risen for me so this doesn't impact me. I always used war armies on revenges and I always used giants, barbs, archers, and gobs during the few attacks I initiated.

When I say that I "burn" resources, what I mean is that I target a specific upgrade to be my next one and I spend everything I have of the other 2 so that they don't accumulate in storage until my targeted upgrade is started.

I always wonder why people try and equate the economy of this game to real life...some claim to be economy's of sorts, some im convinced just read a few wiki pages

When resources are spent in this game, it is essentially burnt...It is not an asset, it is not something that is worth anything to anyone in the CoC economy. The resource transaction is completely separate from the economy, it disappears to the magical CoC bank never to be seen again

It appears people are trying to make this out to be much more complicated than it actually is

*edit* - in short, who in the economy 'profits' from the spending of resources? (on anything other than collectors) answer...no one.

*2nd edit* fixed some typo and autocorrections!