For all those complaining about th9 wars becoming easy & less challange

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Originally Posted by ZodAlwaysWins

I honestly don't get how 3 starring a TH9 is now "too easy". It's absolutely not. And I was in a very good war clan up until recently (got kicked because I had some issues with a co leader- bad idea if anyone is thinking of starting beef with one) even they messed up attacks because of base designs and a whole host of other reasons. Seriously it is NOT easy to 3 star a TH9 just because of the extra time and de spell. And I'm not talking about rushed TH9s either- I'm talking max defences, max lava walls and 20+ hero TH9s. If anyone is finding it "too easy" please share your secrets of success with me!! :heart:

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It is far easier now. You do realize with 10 spells that now GoHo is a monster? Do I need to spell it out in troop combinations? 4 EQ spells with a kill squad. That leaves you with three heals on surgical hogs. That's as OP as it gets. Or you could run two posions, one for CC, and one for ground skels that pre update would wreck your hogs. Or you can run air attacks with zap quake taking out two air defenses, a kill squad taking out a third. Need me to continue?

Not every player has the same skill and ability. What may seem/be difficult for some to grasp- is quite simple for others.

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Originally Posted by cnaf

OP- a clan didn't have to be OneHive in order to do well in wars pre update. And many most certainly didn't have to stay online using sketch and TPAs in order to be successful. TH9 wars are a joke now for clans that were doing well pre update. In 4 wars at 20v and 25v since the update, we've gone perfect, two off, perfect, one off. Is this what you like seeing at TH9 wars?

Bottom line- if your clan needed the extra offensive boost to do better in wars...what do you think it did to better TH9 clans? Unless you can triple every TH9 you see in war now- you are still no better off. Unless you think a 75-75 score is something to brag about.

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You are making it sound like now 3-starring TH9 is a piece of cake. It isn't. It's still hard, it still requires a lot of skills and thoughts. It still requires to attacker to plan carefully. It's not as if now that TH9 is like TH7, where you deploy mass dragons and guarantee a 3 star every time.

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Originally Posted by OMCKG

Lol and with the dry economy we'll see how many of those elite clans could still afford wasting loot at war.

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lol you have no idea how war-centric some clans are. I would spend 1 million DE on all 20 of my accounts for just 1 less loss on the war record. if you consider the amount of loot you get in war while in my clan, I will kick you immediately.

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Originally Posted by cnaf

It is far easier now. You do realize with 10 spells that now GoHo is a monster? Do I need to spell it out in troop combinations? 4 EQ spells with a kill squad. That leaves you with three heals on surgical hogs. That's as OP as it gets. Or you could run two posions, one for CC, and one for ground skels that pre update would wreck your hogs. Or you can run air attacks with zap quake taking out two air defenses, a kill squad taking out a third. Need me to continue?

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Easier to speak than action. Everyone knows to say things like this, but who can execute them perfectly? Making sure the skill squad get whatever needed to get is skill, one misstep and the whole planning gets ruined. You call that easy? Using what comp heavily depends on the base design, you misjudge that, you can end up with 1 star, you call that easy? People are seriously exaggerating the extra spell, as if it's giving you a free pass to the three star world.

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Not every player has the same skill and ability. What may seem/be difficult for some to grasp- is quite simple for others

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There, you said it yourself. What may seem simple for some is very difficult for others.

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Originally Posted by tallas13

lol you have no idea how war-centric some clans are. I would spend 1 million DE on all 20 of my accounts for just 1 less loss on the war record. if you consider the amount of loot you get in war while in my clan, I will kick you immediately.

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He means with the lack of loot, many people find it hard to afford war troops and donations. I wouldn't care to spend 1 million DE either, provided that if I CAN get that much, or whatever amount needed. The thing is it's much harder to gather loot now.

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Originally Posted by Tucsy

Easier to speak than action. Everyone knows to say things like this, but who can execute them perfectly? Making sure the skill squad get whatever needed to get is skill, one misstep and the whole planning gets ruined. You call that easy? Using what comp heavily depends on the base design, you misjudge that, you can end up with 1 star, you call that easy? People are seriously exaggerating the extra spell, as if it's giving you a free pass to the three star world.



There, you said it yourself. What may seem simple for some is very difficult for others.

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My clan isn't anything special. And I listed earlier what we've done post update. The clans opposite us- have improved from averaging around 72% destruction in was vs. us- to 88% destruction. Small sample size, but still a huge increase nonetheless. And I've seen these same general increases in the other clans I'm friendly with.

To me, its not really an exaggeration. You think its just one simple spell. It unlocks so many new combinations.

I see on average about 4 attacks per clan that go over 30 seconds now for the triple. Do you know the domino affect this has? That base doesn't have to be rehit- meaning the next attack is clear to move elsewhere. And so on, and so on.

ETA- I've got the same 25 or so mates that have been in my clan and war for over a year now. Some of these TH9s that struggled with triples...would rarely ever get them over the months that they've been at TH9. Now all of the sudden- these same TH9s are multi tripling in wars? Seriously?

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Originally Posted by Tucsy

Easier to speak than action. Everyone knows to say things like this, but who can execute them perfectly? Making sure the skill squad get whatever needed to get is skill, one misstep and the whole planning gets ruined. You call that easy? Using what comp heavily depends on the base design, you misjudge that, you can end up with 1 star, you call that easy? People are seriously exaggerating the extra spell, as if it's giving you a free pass to the three star world.

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I don't think you realise how boring wars are for th9s now. Before the update we would spend a lot of time designing our own bases, making them as hard as possible to 3 star. There is no point in doing that anymore since there are so many fresh hit 3stars. And you will almost never see two fails in a row on the same base

And no, even if you make a mistake you can pull off a 3star now. Why do you think you see so many raids end with extra spells left?

The only issue is now we need a anti gowi** along with anti golaloon and anti goho

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Originally Posted by CaptainSport

It's stressful to you, but doing these sorts of things is fun to others. The feeling of accomplishment after planning for a while and having the attack go perfectly to plan beats any other feeling you will get while playing this game.

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Yeah actually, it was. It's like playing eve online. Thousands of hours of spreadsheets scamming, plotting, preparing researching, then so often. Mayhem. Literal mayhem. Then back to business. Older folks and strategy nerds like that. And to find a rich meta in a casual game is a compliment to SC.

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Originally Posted by naveenstuns

The only issue is now we need a anti gowi** along with anti golaloon and anti goho

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Pekka hybrids are the only problem imo. Goho and golaloon are fine. I mean what else is left? Laloon, govalo, howiwi?