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I thought with the update they were nerfing healers so that you could actually defend against the super queen? Every third hit against me is an almost 100% destruction super queen walking through my maxed th9 defenses that I have 0% chance of stopping.
Even with the nerf I see absolutely no change to stopping her.
so i have heard..
And can you believe people were actually complaining about the nerfed healers because they couldn't queen walk as efficiently....gimme a break...I wonder if super queen is how the "game was intended to be played"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluntdawg
The healers are nerfed.
yet SQ is still usable. Before I don't need to use rage for most TH9 and my queen will not die.
Now 2 rages, 1 jump is minimum. and the queen will die fast if I face a anti queen base. (3-4 point defenses at one point).
So SQ is a fast farming method with 1 rage or 1 jump. now it is farming method need at least 1-2 hours to cook the spells.
Queen needs to be min level 15 to work. Before lvl 5 queen are okay.
SQ is only viable farming troops for me to farm as TH9. I will quit if SC nerf the healers more.
Well go to TH10 and get infernos, problem solved. TH9 is easy to crush as a TH10. Healers were nerfed, but against TH9 defense, they are fine, because max cannons and ATs only do 75 dps, so you would need a 3-4 defenses firing on the AQ to lower her hps. Now at TH10, with defenses doing 100dps only takes a couple to start lowering her health, plus infernos that stop healing, it's really not useful .
If it's so great, then why don't you use it? You can design your base better. Put the ADs 6 tiles from the edge, this way the AQ can't hit them, but they can hit the healers if they come close enough. You need to change your base,
You should see a lvl40 super queen attack my max TH9. I don't even know why he attack me.
3 golems, 6 healers, 1 hogs, 7 wiz. 4 wb. I got 5 defenses attack her at the same time. Still invincible.
It is not healers not being nerf. It is that the queen is too strong. I am okay with it because I need to put so much DE to her..
OP. Google anti super queen base if you needed.
SQ still alive and well, the potatoes at SC just wanted to scared people into thinking SQ was going to get nerfed LOL.
This is the one strategy I have to try before I give up. Just maxed my healers yesterday, queen going to 30 shortly. I'll spend the next week trying to learn.
I did use super queen when the update first released.
But after using other attack methods a while, and got attack from superqueen. I switch back. I think superqueen is the best troops that fit my style.
No, the rich got richer.
What the idiots at SuperCell should have done, is work the nerf such that you HAD to bring >8 healers for it to significantly help a Hero.
All they did is make it so the folks with < lv. 25 Heros would find it difficult to use.
... and yes, they are idiots, as they can no longer take credit for the success of CoC, because, after all, it was apparently being enjoyed in a way never intended by the SuperCell team.
It's the new big thing post update as I've been hit with it several times and so have several of my clan mates .. It's an easy way to get big loot an makes it hard on all the lower bases .. That's for shure ... But o well it's kill or be killed now as that's what ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wanted ..
I use a queen walk variant: 8 wiz, 12 giants. Still having success and have a high 2 star success rate with de taken as well
Level 18 queen. The original super queen was definitely nerfed though
Because the Warden shoots whatever the Queen is targetting, SuperQueenWarden is even better.
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Originally Posted by cummins2getya
Why it is easy way? I just failed my SQ attack? The queen is so easy to die nowaday. You need to monitor the queen closely in order to have correct funneling and rage properly.
Why Giants + goblin is a good method to get DE? and super queen is not? You need to save DE when you are at TH9 as well. And I can't use it when the queen is at low level already... Should I have the privilege to use better troops when I am upgrading my troops hard.
super queen (level 15), 8 hogs, 10 wb, 24 minions. 2 rage, 2 jumps
I use 68 Barbs, 88 Archers, 4 Wallbreakers and 4 Healers along with the Archer Queen, of course. Use the Barching team to destroy the outer buildings then deploy the Archer Queen followed by 4 Healers. Use the Wallbreakers soon after her deployment. This will funnel the Queen into the core. Don't use the Barbarian King since the Healers will target him instead of the Queen. Use the King to get 50% on a base if you need to as long as you deploy him on the other side of the base. Use any spells as you see fit.
What spells you bring usually? and what TH you are at?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neotop
100%???Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluntdawg
ive been attacked once by the super queen since the update and I'm a maxed th9 except for half the walls and heroes level 27. But he only got 58%, because of time. its almost impossible to get 100%, it's a very slow attack.
100% on a th9? Pics or it didn't happen.
SC should have decreased the healing done on heroes only and more than what it is now.
They should not have nerfed the seldom used healer unit directly on regular troops unless maybe it was completely OP in conjunction with grand warden?
Or decrease range of healer so AD target it at least?
They did this nerf completely the wrong way, imo.
They have alot of things to change with this update, I recon it will be a very long time until they go back to fixing mass healer with 1 archerqueen troop, properly, imo.
Superqueen is viable but more challenging. If the OP truly has maxed TH9 defenses and is getting 100ed I would like to see the base layout.
Super queen is a great strategy when it goes right but it can be difficult to use an unpredictable. I use 4 healers and the rest gibarch and I would say about 30% of the time I have issues with pathing ( my queen going to wrong way round the base being the main issue.) That can cause serious problems and leave your healers exposed to air def.
I suspect the issues your having are in part to do with base design. Remember queen has a 5 tile range so if you put your air def 5 tiles in, the queen will walk past and hey presto, you got the healers.
Inlets into the base can cause serious problems as well, causing queen to walk in and be exposed to more defences. Also well placed tesla are a big issue.
Also look at stronger cc defence. A pekka can cause problems for a queen walk attack for instance, delivering 80% damage to a queen in 1 hit.
I'm unashamed to say I have found myself undone on more then one occasion by a clever base design.
I use Level 6 Barch, Level 5 Wallbreakers, Level 4 Healers and have a Level 12 Queen. It works for me all the time. I bring 2 Lightning Spells for taking out any point-blank defenses if they are killing my Queen, 1 Jump Spell in case the Queen wanders out of bounds, and a Freeze Spell just for letting my Queen have a moment of healing. And I also keep a Poison and Earthquake Spell for good measure. I'm a TH9 with 220 Army Space.Quote:
Originally Posted by hpychan
Sorry, I said almost 100% the last superqueen to hit me got 82%Attachment 152092
I am th10 and still use superqueen against th9s, but the thing is if I spent the same elixer and time on a different type of army I would have the same result. The change in superqueen now (unless your base is poorly designed or rushed) is now I must use a spell or two to keep my queen going and more than 2 spells to 100% you. If I use more than 2 spells with giant wiz healer I get 100% on you too, so what's the difference?
Funny thing is I never get hit by this strat...pre-update I got hit a few times but nothing major...post update have yet to be hit with super queen...and someone saying this is the only way they can farm...lol you must really be THAT bad if you have to rely on this strat never used it once and yet I have near max heroes...
You need to change your base. That's one of the easiest to run a Super Queen raid. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the goal for using Super Queen is to get to the DE storage. Seems like the attacker wasn't that successful, but maybe you didn't have that much DE to begin with, so he went for the rest of the resources.
For the amount invested in his troop combo, he should get some returns, otherwise it completely defeats the purpose of farming. You are hanging around in Master 1. That's where the big boys hang out. Even if you don't get raided by Super Queen, someone will come along with a golem based attack or lavaloon. It is inevitable. Try to farm at lower leagues where there are more GiBarch users and less war army attacks.
82% and they didn't even get your de. Also, they used their king, a couple spells, 80 something archers and 12 wbs, on top of 9 healers. That's not a cheap or fast attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluntdawg
This is a strat designed to get the DE storage, all you need to
know how to funnel your queen to the core of the base.
Luckly it will not "steamroll" your base and get all of the
gold and lix storages with it, maybe 50% destruction with a good
base design. Also good air sweeper placement can really reck a sq attack,
this is the number 1 defense I look at before attacking.
Maybe 50%? I SQ religiously since the update and haven't come across a base that I can't get 70% on for full league bonus, save for the times I don't pay attention and she drops quick too quickly. Saving the BK for the end of the attack so he drags point defenses while backing him up with minions = easy 10-15% on top of everything my AQ wrecked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurei
edit - TH9 vs TH9 ^
The biggest issue with defending against superqueen is the previous update imo. It's daft that air mines no longer knock out healers and has lead to this increase in healer heavy attacks. They say they want more intelligent defense but this just dumbs it down.
Add this to the lack of diversity as to why people attack you (always full attacks) and it's the reason I'm about to quit.
I used to enjoy the defensive challenge as much as war but now it seems pointless.
It's level 40 what do you expect? Just admit you're weaker and move on. That's how the world works.Quote:
Originally Posted by hpychan
I am surprise that he doesn't get your DE using jump spells.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluntdawg
You have a funneling base to funnel non-defense building attack without walls. This is the easiest base to get high % by super queen
Instead of thinking the healers are not killed by air mine as your disadvantage. Think that how to do you attack with Giants-healers if the air mines will kill the healers when you act as attacker. There are 4 air mines in TH9. You have no way to protect the healers.Quote:
Originally Posted by BBQ4Lunch
I can use other attack strat. but super queen is the one use less spells. Try me other attack strat that I don't need to use all 4 spells when I attack?? SQ is one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Affliction
update had a small nerf to this strat with the 6+ healer reduction, but it also got a HUGE buff with the extra 30 seconds.
I am th10 with lvl25 queen, and I quealered my way up to champs league now....pretty much willing to slam any th9 I come across for the bonus alone, and a growing number of my hits are against th10s, as the bases are often poorly designed against this...if you can keep your queen outside and she never gets in range of infernos, and a good percentage of the loot is accessible from the perimeter, game on.
overall, the strat post-update is less viable with a weak queen (<20 or so), but stronger than ever with a stronger queen.
Is it as effective as it was prior to the update? No.
Before the update I could trim. Drop AQ and healers, and then completely ignore my phone.
Now. I still bring 8 healers. I have to pay attention the entire time. And I have to be extremely liberal with my rage drops.
All the update did was make it not such a "gimmie" and made SQ harder to do at lower levels.
Lucky me, I got my aq to 30 before update.
But yes. You're still gonna get wrecked.
Dont cry little lamb, take your loss like a man. Aq walk has been nerfed anymore healer will be pointless if ppl dont raid u aqw u ll get busted with some other stratQuote:
Originally Posted by Bluntdawg
Stop cryin and play the game!
Been on your shoes bro. It's rare when I get hit by Queen walk I'm also a th 9 but just Google an anti queenwalk base
I use the strategy all the time, but have only been hit by it once. I usually get 4 golem GoWipe or some variation.