The Boom Beach Philosophy and the Clash Update

I played BB for quite awhile.

I never bought diamonds. It was a great casual, sit on the toilet, get my resource bases back, upgrade a turret kind of game. I oughta play it more often now.

i play both boom and clash, and ever since the clash update I've been playing boom a lot more. It is a lot easier of a game to play and it is less frustrating to play, compared to what the most recent update turned clash into.

on clash, I used my free gems from champs to purchase a week shield so i didn't have to deal with what the game has tuned into, while still playing boom.

they have different styles, there's less to do on boom or else I would be on there more, its a more simple, less frustrating game

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Originally Posted by Chris4stars85

You could never be sure - but you could be very confident that you wouldn't lose anything most of the time. The very fact that so many folk struggle without TH sniping just plays testiment to this

You really could progress without anything other than the basic skills learnt in the tutorial.

I am new th11 with max th10 stuff including walls. I never bought resources with gems ever. Apart from my attacks in CW's, 95% of the time even I didn't use any skills really to farm. You could almost do it with your eyes closed

I'm enjoying this game more than previously now and becoming much better than I was previously...all of my clan feel that way. We all feel we are earning out loot now as oppose to just spamming tier 1 troops with the THsnipe as a backup for loot bonus

As for the 'fun' - well, that's what's dividing everyone...plenty of players don't care about profits, the run comes from raiding. They reach a max TH level and stay there. On this logic of 'fun' you have, as soon as you become maxed out, the game becomes almost redundant

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Well the ones that do not think it is fun now - are typically the causal players - who do not want to spent hours every day at this game - the problems is - that it is the causal players that make the game run - socially and economically-- maybe they only pay like 20 dollars a month- but they are many - so if they leave. Then the game slowly dies. By the way I have never searched for dead bases - as I think it is to easy. But I miss the shield - the th gives. And I like the cw part - I am part of a war clan - and like many other clans we are very near to quiting the game - yes right now there a lot of res because of the gem boost...but... Many war clans liked the easy way of farming (but very long time it still takes, right now still not finished with lava walls as th 9, and have played almost since the start of the game)we are all good at attacking - but really do not like the new th changes- and I do by gems( or used to, now not only me but most of the clan are so angry that we have stopped buying them ) - the gems was most of the times used to give fast troops to the clan mates - and as a support for the game.

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Originally Posted by lomenop

farming in boom is different than farming in clash. Farmers in boom like to keep low medals so they can bully underdeveloped bases more often for easier loot (like attacking 1.5-2 th below your own without a loot penalty). The low medals means these under developed bases also see u and are not likely to attack u or succeed, a shield of sorts. Farmers in boom mostly attack the computer bases to keep medals low. Farmers in boom are generally poor attackers because of these two things.

Why are they shunned in task forces in boom? Poor attacking. Also, imagine if clan wars weren't free and they had something in place like Intel in boom. Like if you had to attack near your own level and succeed at some high % of destruction for a chance to gain an Intel like object and if wars costed some amount of Intel. Barchers or people who mostly do collector raids would also be shunned from war clans. But then that would open another can of worms in clash. I guess imagine how often a task force of all or mostly farmers would be able to do ops? The answer is rarely, so they'll move along to another task force to try to sponge of them until they get kicked.

they are two different games, you can't play them the same.

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Of course they are different games, but this thread is talking about the similarities. Sounds like you hate farmers in both games as you think farmers in both can't attack. In boom farmers don't generate intel, that is why they are not liked typically. In clash the worst attackers I see are usually the gemmers, who have gemmed everything.

It was brought up earlier that in boom sc supports many playing styles. However that overlooks that in both clash and boom the players in the tf or clan support some playing styles and not others. Just like I bet there are not many farmers in your tf or clan as you will not tolerate those no talent leaches.

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Originally Posted by Sven1234

Well the ones that do not think it is fun now - are typically the causal players - who do not want to spent hours every day at this game - the problems is - that it is the causal players that make the game run - socially and economically-- maybe they only pay like 20 dollars a month- but they are many - so if they leave. Then the game slowly dies. By the way I have never searched for dead bases - as I think it is to easy. But I miss the shield - the th gives. And I like the cw part - I am part of a war clan - and like many other clans we are very near to quiting the game - yes right now there a lot of res because of the gem boost...but... Many war clans liked the easy way of farming (but very long time it still takes, right now still not finished with lava walls as th 9, and have played almost since the start of the game)we are all good at attacking - but really do not like the new th changes- and I do by gems( or used to, now not only me but most of the clan are so angry that we have stopped buying them ) - the gems was most of the times used to give fast troops to the clan mates - and as a support for the game.

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Please stop using the term casual players and speaking on behalf of them all... I consider myself a casual player - 10 attacks over 3 days just recently, and I'm liking this - it suits me much much better.

This new shield system of anything encourages people to play like me...log on for 5/10 mins as and when you can during the day then leave

Plenty of casual players also play not for progression, but just purely because they enjoy a smashing raid, clan mate chat or the wars...we have a good number in our clan

In my mind, the process of 'farming' (and by that I mean raiding for profit) should be just as enjoyable as achieving thatend product...though it seems many don't really enjoy the process of raiding unless it speeds up their journey to upgrading something

trust me, when you get to your max th10 with fully maxed walls, maxes troops and heros...the novelty of looking at them and achieving that goal wears off pretty dam fast!

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Originally Posted by Chris4stars85

Please stop using the term casual players and speaking on behalf of them all... I consider myself a casual player - 10 attacks over 3 days just recently, and I'm liking this - it suits me much much better.

This new shield system of anything encourages people to play like me...log on for 5/10 mins as and when you can during the day then leave

Plenty of casual players also play not for progression, but just purely because they enjoy a smashing raid, clan mate chat or the wars...we have a good number in our clan

In my mind, the process of 'farming' (and by that I mean raiding for profit) should be just as enjoyable as achieving thatend product...though it seems many don't really enjoy the process of raiding unless it speeds up their journey to upgrading something

trust me, when you get to your max th10 with fully maxed walls, maxes troops and heros...the novelty of looking at them and achieving that goal wears off pretty dam fast!

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You can not always have been a causal player, if you have never bought gems and is a th11 player - good for you that you like the update -- but we are many that really do not like most of the new update, especially the th shield system - There is simply not more to say about that - I just hope that coc not only listens to your version - because if they do - I honestly believe that the game will suffer a lot- but only time will show

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Originally Posted by blackba

Of course they are different games, but this thread is talking about the similarities. Sounds like you hate farmers in both games as you think farmers in both can't attack. In boom farmers don't generate intel, that is why they are not liked typically. In clash the worst attackers I see are usually the gemmers, who have gemmed everything.

It was brought up earlier that in boom sc supports many playing styles. However that overlooks that in both clash and boom the players in the tf or clan support some playing styles and not others. Just like I bet there are not many farmers in your tf or clan as you will not tolerate those no talent leaches.

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thats why i was careful to say farmers in boom.

farming in clash is not the same as farming in boom, guess thats why someone coined the term 'turtling'. the whole point of my reply was the emphasis that you cant play them the same, otherwise youll experience frustration like the person i qouted orginally. i believe farming is necessary in clash, especially for the wall grind. 'turtling' is not in boom. i dont vp push in boom, i push for resources in quick sessions which doesnt always require complete map clear. i farm in clash when i do walls, but havent had to in a while since i have been doing the hero grind for a long time now. so i am a hybrid in both.

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Originally Posted by Sven1234

You can not always have been a causal player, if you have never bought gems and is a th11 player - good for you that you like the update -- but we are many that really do not like most of the new update, especially the th shield system - There is simply not more to say about that - I just hope that coc not only listens to your version - because if they do - I honestly believe that the game will suffer a lot- but only time will show

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I've gone through spells of playing more/less...3+ years of playing - collectors and war alone would get someone pretty high up.

I know many don't like it...many for completely illogical irrational reasons, but some do have very good points that I agree need changing.

TH sniping is gone - it won't come back. The game will evolve in time so that it will never be needed.

Being able to attack under your shield compared to pre update is amazing. Being in the 'right' league with the right base means the 29% thing won't be an issue.

If this game needed TH sniping to exist and be popular, then the game was very much broken to begin with

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Originally Posted by Chris4stars85

I've gone through spells of playing more/less...3+ years of playing - collectors and war alone would get someone pretty high up.

I know many don't like it...many for completely illogical irrational reasons, but some do have very good points that I agree need changing.

TH sniping is gone - it won't come back. The game will evolve in time so that it will never be needed.

Being able to attack under your shield compared to pre update is amazing. Being in the 'right' league with the right base means the 29% thing won't be an issue.

If this game needed TH sniping to exist and be popular, then the game was very much broken to begin with

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How can you say a game that was nr1 in the world was broken? A game that you played for 3 years?
The th shield possibility, was I guess not something they thought of when they made the game - but it was the one thing that made it unique- now it is just like the other clones.
The attacking under shield requeres that I have to lock on at times that the game says - not the times that fits to my life- that's the problem with the new personal shield - that's why so many are unhappy with it. But I guess we can only agree that we disagree. But at least we had a discussion- and not a yelling.

What I am liking most now about BB is that my base there only got flattened once this past month. It gets scouted 1-3 times daily, sits at 133vp, hasn't attacked anyone (except Dr T) since August

Despite BB having multiple resources, Wood is always my bottleneck to upgrading stuff.