Why I believe the Grand Warden is making witch attacks too strong (and a fix?)

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Originally Posted by Micker99

Again, don't you think the only troop upgraded so far at th11 should be the most powerful? Everyone should be using level 3 witches, it's the only th11 caliber troop. Every other troop is th10 level and should be weaker in comparison to an attack with a true th11 upgraded troop. SC dealt with the issue of the GWs ability adding too many hps to the skellies.

The GWs ability has no effect on skeletons survival, against max th10/th11 defenses. Any of those defenses will one shot a buffed skelly or non buffed skelly. So it doesn't matter, look at the facts and numbers. Yes level 3 witches are still fairly powerful and they should be. This whole thread is pointless and the person who, started it never even used the attack!! Just saw an old pre nerf video and decided the attack needed to be fixed lol. Come on man give it up. Talk about your own th level and any issues YOU have experienced , not a video of some random attack.

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Does that mean everyone at TH10 should never use loons and hogs again, as they weren't given a level, and so to you, they're the weakest?

Please, don't make me laugh. My ribcage hurts too much already :o

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Originally Posted by Chaylee

Your hashtag implies that you have felt this way before? If you need any comfort, I'd ask that you do it in a way that isn't making seem like you're trying to feel better about yourself.
Here if you need me :heart:

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Im fine :D just laughing at th10s

Frankly, I think it's still too soon to be calling for any nerfs. The update isn't that old and really hasn't even begun to settle yet. People are still using bad/outdated base designs (still seeing 1/3 bases using box/ring layouts which are terrible with new warden mechanics).

This update was more of a test for the new hero and is really only a half-th update imo. That's a large reason as to why it's so unbalanced at the moment. But they can't just dump all new spells, cc, camp upgrades, troops etc into 11 right away without thinking it will severely effect the meta. Things have to be tested and given time.

I do believe the warden will be reworked eventually, but I don't believe the time is now...not when there isn't that much 11s have offensively at the moment.

As it stand witches + warden is a very powerful combo indeed (even with the witch nerf)....but I wouldn't go as far to say it's OP or a "brainless 3" either. I have been hit by it plenty (both war/and my cup base) and have not seen any 3s on my base since the update, and neither has many of my clan mates.

In fact, I just botched a mass warden/witch combo myself in this past war. Definitely feeling the difference.

Have faith and give the game time people, though I can understand why so many are frustrated.

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Originally Posted by TheDefianceAlliance

Im fine :D just laughing at th10s

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Every last TH10, eh? Wish I was as merry as you :p

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Originally Posted by IDBGOD28

Frankly, I think it's still too soon to be calling for any nerfs. The update isn't that old and really hasn't even begun to settle yet. People are still using bad/outdated base designs (still seeing 1/3 bases using box/ring layouts which are terrible with new warden mechanics).

This update was more of a test for the new hero and is really only a half-th update imo. That's a large reason as to why it's so unbalanced at the moment. But they can't just dump all new spells, cc, camp upgrades, troops etc into 11 right away without thinking it will severely effect the meta. Things have to be tested and given time.

I do believe the warden will be reworked eventually, but I don't believe the time is now...not when there isn't that much 11s have offensively at the moment.

As it stand witches + warden is a very powerful combo indeed (even with the witch nerf)....but I wouldn't go as far to say it's OP or a "brainless 3" either. I have been hit by it plenty (both war/and my cup base) and have not seen any 3s on my base since the update, and neither has many of my clan mates.

In fact, I just botched a mass warden/witch combo myself in this past war. Definitely feeling the difference.

Have faith and give the game time people, though I can understand why so many are frustrated.

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I can understand what you're saying. I'm definitely not saying it's an easy 3*, but it's most certainly the most viable in the current state of the game.

I do hope that they are soon to add more offensive and defensive content to the new TH. TH11 is shaping out to be much better than TH10 in terms of balance.

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Originally Posted by Chaylee

Does that mean everyone at TH10 should never use loons and hogs again, as they weren't given a level, and so to you, they're the weakest?

Please, don't make me laugh. My ribcage hurts too much already :o

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That means that hogs, which umm no one uses at th10 and loons are not as powerful as they were at th9 in comparison. Why am I even discussing this with you, I'm saying that of course the only troop to get an upgrade at th11, is going to seem like the most powerful, because it currently is. When/if they ever upgrade loons to level 7, you can believe that they will seem op also, like level 6 loons were/are considered op at th9.

Nerf is coming people....they are waiting for you all that gem to quit spending.

Once y'all blow your wad....they will have the data to nerf.

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Originally Posted by micker99

that means that hogs, which umm no one uses at th10 and loons are not as powerful as they were at th9 in comparison.

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i'm crying 😂 nobody uses loons as they're not as powerful 😂😂😂😂

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Originally Posted by Chaylee

I can understand what you're saying. I'm definitely not saying it's an easy 3*, but it's most certainly the most viable in the current state of the game.

I do hope that they are soon to add more offensive and defensive content to the new TH. TH11 is shaping out to be much better than TH10 in terms of balance.

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Well, in all fairness the whole game is pretty unbalanced. We all know drags are at th7, has been for a long while. The extra de spell in CC's and 30 seconds to attacks certainly didn't help the balance at th9 any...made it even more easy. Th10...lol that's always been unbalanced, and now surprise surprise th11.

Really shouldn't be anything too shocking here. Game is a mess and SC doesn't have a clue how to properly balance their game it seems.

Regardless, we all still love the game (some this update perhaps not lol) so we keep hoping things will change/get better. I honestly believe SC is taking in feedback and I do think things will improve given time.

Or at least we all hope 😜.

Now back to clashing, I hope you all can have the same optimism that I have in terms of the future of clash. Only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by IDBGOD28

Well, in all fairness the whole game is pretty unbalanced. We all know drags are at th7, has been for a long while. The extra de spell in CC's and 30 seconds to attacks certainly didn't help the balance at th9 any...made it even more easy. Th10...lol that's always been unbalanced, and now surprise surprise th11.

Really shouldn't be anything too shocking here. Game is a mess and SC doesn't have a clue how to properly balance their game it seems.

Regardless, we all still love the game (some this update perhaps not lol) so we keep hoping things will change/get better. I honestly believe SC is taking in feedback and I do think things will improve given time.

Or at least we all hope 😜.

Now back to clashing, I hope you all can have the same optimism that I have in terms of the future of clash. Only time will tell.

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You have no idea how pleased I am to hear someone with my exact thoughts!!
I feel that the dark spell and 30 seconds was good for TH10 (as is any offensive buff it recieves), and I think SC tried to push TH9s into more developed parts of the game.

Hopefully they focus on war this year like they promised.
Good luck in clash!