Why the continued negativity?

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Originally Posted by Kevfromle

I'm not sure whether its not within their business culture, their national culture or simply because they havent faced this tide of emotion before...but the silence so far is deafening!

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This part is not true. The greedy mute struck again during last year's wall fiasco.

Something worse happened then. After a while the mute spoke. Only to deny the problem. Then they admit to it with a revert. The greedy mute is one sick ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

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Originally Posted by robhab

Do you realize how many millions and millions of people downloaded CoC and tried it because of the hundred million dollar ad campaign. Only a small fraction of those who tried it stuck around to play, but it was still enough revenue to make this game #1. Those who stayed did it for a variety of reasons that made the game fun. A tiny part of that small fraction spent serious money to advance quickly. The rest were happy to advance at a slower pace for little or no money.

When a company spends millions on ads... They must cater to the tiny part of the small fraction.

I think both sides of this debate are dreaming...

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I agree with this post as far as it goes. The problem is, this update doesn't even cater to the tiny part of the small fraction, apparently. (Not that I would know firsthand, I am not one of them.) There are at least a few vocal gemmers and hardcores on the forums, on YouTube, on Reddit, etc who are laying out several issues with the top end of this update. The fact that both Apple and Google Play are giving actual refunds because of the witch nerf indicates to me that no real catering happened anywhere.

I'm not wholly opposed to the update, but I definitely get tired of feeling like I'm not good enough to play SC's game any more. And I think it is foolish that they added TH9 and TH10 basing them on the then-current economic conditions (7 mil upgrades, etc) and then brought out TH11 and had to restructure the entire Game to support it. They did not continue development in the same way, and the path they chose was so radically different that everything underneath the new TH is impacted. TH1-7 are now a cakewalk due to the additional 30 second battle time. Hit TH8, though, and as a new th, be prepared to be complete toast. And the 9's and 10's ... well, walls were already evil, but now they're about all anyone is doing. And they don't matter, because Earthquake.

There is no going back, but I really hope that the dev team listens to the people with 3-year play credentials. They are throwing out some OUTSTANDING suggestions on how to make the Game fun again.

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Originally Posted by Earthmomma

Absolute changes.

I used to hit the OLD pbt at least 1 or 2 x a week, as I would sit on the Game chatting, advising, interacting, grooming troop cooks, scouting war maps, and donating. I would TH snipe sometimes if there was nobody around to chat with while my army built. I used a GiArch army then for main raid army.

Now, I log in morn, take stock of the damage. I raid with a GiWizArch (hated wiz before, forcing myself to learn them now), usually fail. I used to be a full heal girl, and I still am, because I couldn't figure out how to work a lightning and 2 heals. I fill reqs by gemming troops post-raid, say hi to anyone who is on, set army to cook, log out. Repeat with 2nd char, log out. I raid again on my morning break at work, at lunch with either one or the other char, and at my afternoon break. I usually still have a shield when I get home, so I break the shield on both chars, recook, log out, take the 2nd loss of the day for next shield.

Sometimes I might feel like raiding, sometimes, it's just not worth the hassle and I come read the forums instead, like tonight.

Before the update, I had no need of the forums whatsoever. I was way, WAY too busy playing the Game with passion and hunger. No time for all this nonsense, and no reason to bother.

Now, my playtime is replaced with cruising here, hoping beyond hope for a crumb of official information from SuperCell.

You still seem to believe the best of the company. They broke my heart, and I have no reason to believe the best of them any more. They don't speak on their own behalf and leave their forum mods out here with their butts hanging in the breeze. When they show that kind of disregard for their own people on their own forums... what regard should I expect for myself? Frankly, I expect them to disregard me, the way the 'real chief' form letter does.

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What she said!!!

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Originally Posted by zeroxxx

When you do something, do it correctly. That is what people are doing, bashing supercell to no end for their stupid update and lousy work. It is well deserved.

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SC staffs trying hard to making new accounts covering up the problem, countering majority complaints that this is a good update however almost 99% of us DISLIKE THIS UPDATE XDXDXDXD:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown: The TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by JJCarlos69

SC staffs trying hard to making new accounts covering up the problem, countering majority complaints that this is a good update however almost 99% of us DISLIKE THIS UPDATE XDXDXDXD:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown: The TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL :thumbsup:

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rebel gamer :smirk:

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Originally Posted by Earthmomma

Absolute changes...

You still seem to believe the best of the company. They broke my heart, and I have no reason to believe the best of them any more. They don't speak on their own behalf and leave their forum mods out here with their butts hanging in the breeze. When they show that kind of disregard for their own people on their own forums... what regard should I expect for myself? Frankly, I expect them to disregard me, the way the 'real chief' form letter does.

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This was the takeaway when I read her original post.

This shows her deep loss of trust in the game.

Why does this matter? Without trust (or naivety) a player is faced with a hard reality - investing thousands of hours (and dollars by some) in a virtual fantasy world that can change in the blink of a banker's eye. Good luck recovering that trust once it is destroyed. The company either advertises for more naïve rubes to grind thru the lower game, or settles for the whale addicts who are hopelessly addicted at the top.

Causal/hardcore players will not play this game if their resources will be removed every 12 hours.

The game has implemented resource auto-reset feature. People who have life will not play this game once they found out this feature.

Only people who can beat this feature will survived. And I don't think these group are majority.

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Originally Posted by Element990

I am th11 and have all 5 builders working on new defenses / hero. Not implying I'm better than the next person, but I don't believe people can't keep loot. For the guy that comes on 1 or 2 times a day, what do you expect? Your base isn't going to upgrade itself. You need to play to progress.

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Umm... Yeah, there is no th12 to 100% you every time you lose your shield. So I can see how you'd think people can protect their loot.

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Originally Posted by Element990

For the guy that comes on 1 or 2 times a day, what do you expect? Your base isn't going to upgrade itself. You need to play to progress.

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Yes! We all agree, both pro and con that is it now impossible to play and progress logging in twice a day. Those that did play this way have been driven from the game. You may think now that you don't care that they left, but you WILL. It's a cascading effect and once the active players only have themselves to prey on, we'll see a whole new wave of cloud complaints. By then of course, it will be too late. I think what would be best for the game is if everyone had a little foresight, regardless as to if the upgrade has benefitted you or not.

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Originally Posted by Earthmomma

Because every raid still hurts.

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with the massive update it shocks most players and the loot distribution, most are starting to adapt but some they feel every attack to their village and every next feels like there's no progress being made. this is why some goes here on the forums and they think they can insult and start a revolt against it.....not gonna happen here this is not facebook or twitter this forum have rules and they should be obeyed and enforced, if they have a comment about the update there is a feedback thread on the sticky