No matter how many people quit, half of those left will still be upset

You create a game where half the playing population gains loot at the expense of the other half. For every winner there has to be a loser. Then, when those struggling to progress quit, the balance shifts so that those close to the cut line fall into the losing side. For those that had it bad, but not quite bad enough to quit, the game gets a little worse...

Then take this and remove any kind of a safety net, so it is possible that someone (depending on their play style) will literally never be able to progress.

Is it me, or does this seem like a really bad model for a game? Was it just an accident of the th snipe that let the game get as popular as it has? I guess we are all going to find out.

Makes me wonder, people would have much upgraded bases if they spend half the time they spend on the forums in the game.

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Originally Posted by Vikhyath

Makes me wonder, people would have much upgraded bases if they spend half the time they spend on the forums in the game.

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Was that supposed to be an insult? If so, consider me properly put in my place. :)

The update is why I'm here. What else can I do while my 2 hour army builds? I'm being a proper little soldier and playing the game the way it's supposed to be played. I'm sorry if I don't wave the SC flag enough on the forums.

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Originally Posted by Wendle

Was that supposed to be an insult? If so, consider me properly put in my place. :)

The update is why I'm here. What else can I do while my 2 hour army builds? I'm being a proper little soldier and playing the game the way it's supposed to be played. I'm sorry if I don't wave the SC flag enough on the forums.

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Lol, besides some war and clan chatting, I'm basically only playing this game for 5-10 minutes every 1-2 hours.. Just cook troops and log off.. At least I have 2 accounts both in masters/champs.. Less active play time from me compared to pre-update.. But the game would probably be more active, but also more boring personally, if I just trophy dropped to silver..

It's true that we mostly progress at the expense of another, but it doesn't have to be. We can only prey on dead bases, those no longer in the game. We could also turtle and grow only through collectors. Both of those supercell clearly want to get rid off. I can see their point, without competition, the game would be boring. But done to the extreme it turns people off, especially the casual players.

And ya, based on their "original intention," their success of this game was a complete accident Imo.

I guess it depends on your TH and league.

For example, I'm a max TH10 in champs. Let's say I do 5 raids and win 4 (my win percentage is much higher, but let's lowball it). we'll assume that I don't get 70% on all the ones I win, and I average 180k bonus. Even with those low balled numbers, I make 720k in bonuses.

Since no one is getting more than half my storages and I'm only defending twice a day, I'm giving back 400k. (Less than that, but let's roll with it). That still leaves me with 320k in resources from bonuses. I'm also banking 500k each from my mines/collectors. That's all loot that is not coming from another player. (My numbers are definitely better than that otherwise I wouldn't be playing)

Now on the other hand, if you're in a low league barching premie bases, then yeah, someone's getting the short stick.

So long as there is enough loot injection through attack bonus and collectors, it can work, but right now, that doesn't happen for most players. Loot bonus needs to scale by th level.

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Originally Posted by Wendle

So long as there is enough loot injection through attack bonus and collectors, it can work, but right now, that doesn't happen for most players. Loot bonus needs to scale by th level.

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If they wanted people to attack more and people protect their townhall, they should have instead added defense bonus for protecting your townhall. And to refund elixir and dark elixir cost of troops for players who manage to destroy the enemy townhall. I bet people would go GoWiPing everything since the cost is refunded and those who are able to defend their townhall get bonuses.

No need for shield or fancy PBT.

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Originally Posted by jsmith2015

If they wanted people to attack more and people protect their townhall, they should have instead added defense bonus for protecting your townhall. And to refund elixir and dark elixir cost of troops for players who manage to destroy the enemy townhall. I bet people would go GoWiPing everything since the cost is refunded and those who are able to defend their townhall get bonuses.

No need for shield or fancy PBT.

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I don't like the idea of a defense bonus because it encourages people to sit in lower leagues. If you play up to your potential, you won't be getting many defense wins. I don't think we need another incentive for players to drop cups. Other than that, we're on the same page. An elixer bonus of your army cost makes sense, again, assuming you are not trolling the lower leagues.