IDEA: Epic LOOT and TROPHY changes!

"You can't make someone fight for trophies INSTEAD of loot, but you can make them fight for trophies FOR loot,".
That's what this idea is about. To stop the rapid trophy dropping, and potentially save Clash of Clans from this loot disappearance.

CONTENTS:
Section 1: Introduction
Section 2: The Idea
Section 3: What it Looks Like
Section 4: Future Improvements
Section 5: Question and Answers


SECTION 1: INTRODUCTION
As we all know, especially for higher Town Halls, there is minimal loot. This is my maths to attempt to figure out why:

80% of attacks were snipes. About 70% of those had no loot (Because they spend it). Leaves 20% of bases. about 15% had no loot and 5% did. Making 5% of total bases have good loot, but since only 20% of bases were unshielded at a time, that meant 1/4 bases had good loot.

Now every base is almost always unshielded, that makes only 5% of available bases with good loot. But about 1% of these people spend their loot before log off so it doesn't get stolen. 2% of these are collector bases and are almost invisible, then about 1% of these bases is always shielded, leaving a total of 1% of bases available with good loot.

It's probably not that accurate, but you get the idea. It's hard to find a base with loot. But with this idea, instead of everyone trophy dropping, trying to get loot that's not even there, this idea will make it so everyone goes UP in trophies in order to get loot! Sounds impossible, but just read this.

SECTION 2: THE IDEA
League loot needs a change. Sure, they increased it, but they made it so you can only get the full amount at 70%, seriously hurting the economy of Clash. This is my idea to get the economy (hopefully) back on track.

DESTRUCTION PERCENTAGE FOR FULL LOOT BONUS CURRENTLY: 70%


OLD LOOT BONUS:
http://i.imgur.com/yyBWYDV.png

As you can see, this is the CURRENT League Bonus, being higher then the old one, but overall WAY less because how many attacks actually get 70%?


NEW LEAGUE LOOT SYSTEM
http://i.imgur.com/acsWhbX.png

NEW DESTRUCTION PERCENTAGE FOR FULL LOOT BONUS: 60%

At first sight you can see the difference. The league bonus is significantly increased, and only requires 60% destruction to receive the full bonus, which will significantly increase loot in the economy alone, but...

The major part, the NEW Weekly Loot Injection. It sounds complicated, but it is actually extremely simple. Here are the details:

Weekly Loot Injection instantly transfers the League's set amount into your storage's and if they're full, well, you miss out!
A seven day timer starts when you enter a participating league and when it ends you get the loot.
Say, you were in Masters III for 4 days, and you went up to Masters I. The timer would continue, as you are in the same KIND of league. But if you went into a different kind of league, say, Champion, the timer would restart.
It starts at Crystal III and the amount increases every league after that.
When the season ends, the timer ends and no loot is received.
Yes, it's just that simple.

SECTION 3: WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE
Again, it's not that complicated. Here's a picture of what it would look like from someone in Silver III:


SILVER III PERSON'S PERSPECTIVE:
http://i.imgur.com/4MutwNQ.png

Notice: League bonus for Current league and Next League are the numbers of MY amounts.
You can see it's not complicated. The Weekly Loot Injection amount is displayed above the League Bonus.
Want to see some actual numbers? Post a 'My League Page' just like that but in Crystal League or higher. Leave the editing to me.

SECTION 4: FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS
Possible 25%-50% increase in numbers.
Possible League Perks starting from Crystal III

Got an idea to add on? Got any changes?
Want the numbers changed?
Just tell me! I'll consider all feedback to improve my thread's idea.

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Section 5: Question and Answer

Section 5: Question and Answer 2

Section 5: Question and Answer 3

Section 5: Question and Answer 4

I like the basis of this idea but I don't feel the weekly injection is enough to compensate for how much loot we lost during this update, since when I want to upgrade something I usually aim for 1-2 million in a day. Honestly imo the only real way to get people to actually want high trophies is to either double the loot bonus for 70%, or keep it the way it already is, but for 50%. Not so sure why they're even being stingy about the league bonuses... This system that they're trying to make serves only the most hardcore players sucking up all the loot by playing nonstop all day, leaving nothing in the economy for more casual players.

They want better attacks? Well they should actually make the strong attacks worthwhile!! My ideal version of clash of clans would be the type where I can log on once or twice a day, and do a hog attack that would give me 500k gold and elixir WITHOUT pressing next 500 times (storages and league bonus combined). It's supposed to be a lifelong game, and I really wanna finish maxing th8 and get to th9, but at the same time there's stuff in real life that I have to do, believe it or not lol. Kinda inhumane how they make us work this hard for years for a virtual base... It should be about skill, not just hours played.

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Originally Posted by Drogon1

I like the basis of this idea but I don't feel the weekly injection is enough to compensate for how much loot we lost during this update, since when I want to upgrade something I usually aim for 1-2 million in a day. Honestly imo the only real way to get people to actually want high trophies is to either double the loot bonus for 70%, or keep it the way it already is, but for 50%. Not so sure why they're even being stingy about the league bonuses... This system that they're trying to make serves only the most hardcore players sucking up all the loot by playing nonstop all day, leaving nothing in the economy for more casual players.

They want better attacks? Well they should actually make the strong attacks worthwhile!! My ideal version of clash of clans would be the type where I can log on once or twice a day, and do a hog attack that would give me 500k gold and elixir WITHOUT pressing next 500 times (storages and league bonus combined). It's supposed to be a lifelong game, and I really wanna finish maxing th8 and get to th9, but at the same time there's stuff in real life that I have to do, believe it or not lol. Kinda inhumane how they make us work this hard for years for a virtual base... It should be about skill, not just hours played.

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Can you recommend any tweaks?

There was also an alternative suggestion of giving perks based on league - somewhat similar to what clan war levels do for players..

There were suggestions of perks in the form of either faster resource production, longer troop boosts with gems, faster troop build / hero recovery time etc. http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ue-Perk-System

I actually think those are more interesting in getting players to fight for higher trophies.

I love this idea, it can really make us fight for the loot a lot more, but we need a lot more league bonuses than that, say 25% more?

That's so it can make up for something I've found out several days ago... http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...58#post6183058

I thought OP had been always saying the update was perfectly fine... :smirk:

to the topic, the increase in league bonus as suggested is still too "significant".

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Originally Posted by tingling

There was also an alternative suggestion of giving perks based on league - somewhat similar to what clan war levels do for players..

There were suggestions of perks in the form of either faster resource production, longer troop boosts with gems, faster troop build / hero recovery time etc. http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ue-Perk-System

I actually think those are more interesting in getting players to fight for higher trophies.

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I'll consider this. Adding to main post as a possible future improvement.

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Originally Posted by VideoGameStar

I love this idea, it can really make us fight for the loot a lot more, but we need a lot more league bonuses than that, say 25% more?

That's so it can make up for something I've found out several days ago... http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...58#post6183058

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I'll look into this also.

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Originally Posted by x0pht

I thought OP had been always saying the update was perfectly fine... :smirk:

to the topic, the increase in league bonus as suggested is still too "significant".

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I did say it was fine... Until I became a casual player because there was no loot anymore. Could you explain what you mean by " significant" in quotes?

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Originally Posted by Azza03

Can you recommend any tweaks?

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Maybe perhaps increase the league bonus (double) AND require 3 stars to get the full bonus. Significant penalty to loot bonus if the town hall is a level below your own because that would be too easy. Decrease the percent of loot that can be raided from bases as well, so that the game depends more heavily on getting the league bonus and not losing it all too fast when doing a big upgrade. In my opinion, the game was very balanced back when people put their town halls outside, and now this balance is ruined because they expect us all to raid frequently enough to earn more than the huge amount we keep losing.

I personally love doing big attacks and wrecking bases, and I'm sure this is a common interest among the whole war community as well. Since this update seems to be in favor of big attacks, there shouldn't be anything wrong with making a significant reward for a 3 star attack and less punishment for logging out afterwards. It should feel more like a game than a chore to gather loot and upgrade bases.

my proposed league bonus: keep it the same as it is, but add a 2x multiplier for that third star. before you know it people will be jumping leagues like crazy, and the game will finally be exciting as if we're in constant war all the time, because as of now that third star is kind of meaningless outside of war.

What is the weekly loot injection ?? And will trophy offers be improved pls .... people 2 leagues higher than me (e.g. masters 2) .... take away 20+ trophies from me (crystal 1) everytime ..... i lose 30+ trophies from people who have trophies more than mine ...... why !!?? .... and when i hunt for trophies i get offers like 8 ,9 ..... if lucky .... 31 trophies on a max th9 ..... but I'm a new th8 ! How am i supposed to attack them ?!..... the system really needs changes

I really think that the dark elixir for weekly injection should be increased by 50-100%. Also, it should be able to be collected in the league screen, however, if it is not collected in 24 hours it is lost.

Edited Future Improvements section. Will edit numbers ASAP

So 70% of 80% have no loot and are Town Hall snipes, right? That calculates as 56%, which surely means that 44% of the total bases around have loot, not the 20% you initially talk about in that first paragraph?