The chain reaction.

So I read lots and lots of threads about the new update being unpopular and I don't blame the clashers. When it came out I was really upset cause all of a sudden I would lose more elixir loot than I was storing. So I made the decision to step down to below 2000 trophies, as a th10 player, from 3317 that I was. That's when I found peace and started to increase my elixir resources. The reason for that is known to all clashers. Less expensive troops to build, no spells and ofcourse infirior opponents (th9).

Nevertheless I see a lot of th10 bases, even maxed out th10's at 2000 trophies. How many times would you find your base being attack by just the queen as an attempt of the opponent to drop trophies. I personally hundreds of times after the update.

so here is my opinion, I may be wrong ofcourse. A large majority of middle trophy players (up to let's say 3200 trophies) will step down to lower leagues, if they haven't already. As a result th9 bases will drop even lower. As long as th9 and lower th bases drop further to the bottom, many of the th10 players will follow them. It's logical I believe. Very few people want to make an expensive attack and those that do want to make that kind of attacks are very high in the trophy leagues. The majority of players want inexpensive attacks with lots of loot to grab, so they can develop faster. Thus those th10's will drop trophies.

what would this mean? Less and less th10 bases will be left for the elite th10's and th11 bases at high trophy leagues thus they will have to spend endless time searching for opponents. As a result eventually I believe they too will make the decision to step down a league or two to find more opponents. After all who would like to be at the top and not be able to attack anyone anymore. The game is supposed to be about attacking and defending. If you don't attack then it's not fun in my opinion. So they too will step down.

end result will be that the higher leagues will become a desert. Pointless place to be, while the lower leagues will become over crowded. Keeping a lot of th10's, such as myself, in lower trophy leagues is devastating for the lower th's. On every attack I make i steal so much resources from the lower th's that sometimes I sit back and think, and I actually feel sorry for the other guy who was trying so hard to get those resources to build an upgrade, and an opportunist th10 would come and easily steal so much. I mean it's unfair. But then again is the only way I can keep my own development going on, to the expense of his.

would most players on lower leagues be interested with the complains of the higher league players regarding facing a desert up there? Ofcourse not. Majority of the lower league players would not bother cause at that point they believe it doesn't affect them. Same goes the other way round. Would the higher league players be interested if the lower league ones get hammered everyday? Ofcourse the majority would not care. It doesn't seem to affect their play. But if you look at it closely it affects everyone's game. An imbalance in the lower or the higher leagues will affect each other. It's a chain reaction.

so how can we fix this? I honestly don't know. I wish I had a secret Santa spell to make all this be balanced, but I don't (supercell removed it from the game 😄).

i believe that very few players actually left the game and are not playing anymore, atleast not the ones that have been playing this game for more than a year. Most players loved and still love this game no matter if they feel unhappy. They keep playing the game, they keep trying to adapt to the new game style. They might even be playing more hours than before just to compensate from the luck of mainly elixir resources. The majority of players are not yet ready to leave the game. They are still hanging in there, still trying to find a solution. For how much longer you will ask? I honestly don't know. I assume eventually if they are not happy they will leave the game, uninstall it and move on.

Thats all I had to say. Sorry for making this post so long. If you wish please write your own thoughts. Hang in there guys!

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So I read lots and lots of threads about the new update being unpopular and I don't blame the clashers. When it came out I was really upset cause all of a sudden I would lose more elixir loot than I was storing. So I made the decision to step down to below 2000 trophies, as a th10 player, from 3317 that I was. That's when I found peace and started to increase my elixir resources. The reason for that is known to all clashers. Less expensive troops to build, no spells and ofcourse infirior opponents (th9).

Nevertheless I see a lot of th10 bases, even maxed out th10's at 2000 trophies. How many times would you find your base being attack by just the queen as an attempt of the opponent to drop trophies. I personally hundreds of times after the update.

so here is my opinion, I may be wrong ofcourse. A large majority of middle trophy players (up to let's say 3200 trophies) will step down to lower leagues, if they haven't already. As a result th9 bases will drop even lower. As long as th9 and lower th bases drop further to the bottom, many of the th10 players will follow them. It's logical I believe. Very few people want to make an expensive attack and those that do want to make that kind of attacks are very high in the trophy leagues. The majority of players want inexpensive attacks with lots of loot to grab, so they can develop faster. Thus those th10's will drop trophies.

what would this mean? Less and less th10 bases will be left for the elite th10's and th11 bases at high trophy leagues thus they will have to spend endless time searching for opponents. As a result eventually I believe they too will make the decision to step down a league or two to find more opponents. After all who would like to be at the top and not be able to attack anyone anymore. The game is supposed to be about attacking and defending. If you don't attack then it's not fun in my opinion. So they too will step down.

end result will be that the higher leagues will become a desert. Pointless place to be, while the lower leagues will become over crowded. Keeping a lot of th10's, such as myself, in lower trophy leagues is devastating for the lower th's. On every attack I make i steal so much resources from the lower th's that sometimes I sit back and think, and I actually feel sorry for the other guy who was trying so hard to get those resources to build an upgrade, and an opportunist th10 would come and easily steal so much. I mean it's unfair. But then again is the only way I can keep my own development going on, to the expense of his.

would most players on lower leagues be interested with the complains of the higher league players regarding facing a desert up there? Ofcourse not. Majority of the lower league players would not bother cause at that point they believe it doesn't affect them. Same goes the other way round. Would the higher league players be interested if the lower league ones get hammered everyday? Ofcourse the majority would not care. It doesn't seem to affect their play. But if you look at it closely it affects everyone's game. An imbalance in the lower or the higher leagues will affect each other. It's a chain reaction.

so how can we fix this? I honestly don't know. I wish I had a secret Santa spell to make all this be balanced, but I don't (supercell removed it from the game ��).

i believe that very few players actually left the game and are not playing anymore, atleast not the ones that have been playing this game for more than a year. Most players loved and still love this game no matter if they feel unhappy. They keep playing the game, they keep trying to adapt to the new game style. They might even be playing more hours than before just to compensate from the luck of mainly elixir resources. The majority of players are not yet ready to leave the game. They are still hanging in there, still trying to find a solution. For how much longer you will ask? I honestly don't know. I assume eventually if they are not happy they will leave the game, uninstall it and move on.

Thats all I had to say. Sorry for making this post so long. If you wish please write your own thoughts. Hang in there guys!

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Guess this describes the current situation pretty well, and supercell take the complains positively, the majority is still engaged...

My my point of view: this game is like a relationship, you love and hate each other from time to time, sometimes people yelling at each other, but they stay together because there is something in common. But eventually when there is no 'yelling' anymore this means you are close to a divorce...

you (supercell) better listen before the yelling stops...

I dropped to 900 cups after the update and I've seen plenty of maxed th10s and some th11s here. I'm also spending much less time in the clouds between searches than I would've before the update, I remember one time when I dropped about a month before the update I was seeing about 5-10 seconds of clouds at 900 cups, but now searches are almost instantaneous and the clouds don't get bad until 700 cups. That proves how bad the situation is now.

Please feel free to say your opinion on the original post. I know it's very long and maybe boring to read but it would be nice to hear some of your thoughts. Maybe this way we can all contribute in a way to fix the current issues.

once again thank you for spending your time in this thread.

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Please feel free to say your opinion on the original post. I know it's very long and maybe boring to read but it would be nice to hear some of your thoughts. Maybe this way we can all contribute in a way to fix the current issues.

once again thank you for spending your time in this thread.

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I agree completely with your post. When I first read about the update I thought it would make the higher leagues a good place to be, so I pushed to champion from gold. After the update hit, I spent a week there and realized I would'nt progress as fast as I would in lower leagues so I dropped. Max TH9 except some walls and my queen.

The games always been unbalanced as any game can be. Town hall sniping hid that fact. Simple as that. Before the update, people that didn't want to get hammered," and knew they would" town hall outside for a free shield! Stupid game play really, townhall should be protected. But supercell was making that cheddar and decided to leave it alone for a while. If for some reason you think that supercell cares about this game or any of its player base "man you haven't been paying attention". Supercell is as shady as a company can get. Now they are just at a point where they want to squeeze a little more juice out of the soft skulled, money spending, player base. LoL yeah after this blows over they will do this or that but "quality product" is not an idea, supercell has ever or will ever ,subscribe to. No by no means take my word for it. Take a good long look at their games and their history "business practices " for yourself. Mull that over for a while, let it soak in real deep.

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When I first read about the update I thought it would make the higher leagues a good place to be, so I pushed to champion from gold. After the update hit, I spent a week there and realized I would'nt progress as fast as I would in lower leagues so I dropped.

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This is exactly what I did. Surely supercells intentions were for us all to push, I don't understand why they didn't incentivise it more? It wasn't hard to see how it was going to end up if they didn't. Now we're all in lower leagues than previously...

yup. they make the updates as ridiculous as they want, lots of people will continue to play until the mobile industry becomes obsolete. users don't mull over sc past business history practices. i'm sure angry birds still gets the downloads even though rovio isn't churning in the coins as they used to.

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The games always been unbalanced as any game can be. Town hall sniping hid that fact. Simple as that. Before the update, people that didn't want to get hammered," and knew they would" town hall outside for a free shield! Stupid game play really, townhall should be protected. But supercell was making that cheddar and decided to leave it alone for a while. If for some reason you think that supercell cares about this game or any of its player base "man you haven't been paying attention". Supercell is as shady as a company can get. Now they are just at a point where they want to squeeze a little more juice out of the soft skulled, money spending, player base. LoL yeah after this blows over they will do this or that but "quality product" is not an idea, supercell has ever or will ever ,subscribe to. No by no means take my word for it. Take a good long look at their games and their history "business practices " for yourself. Mull that over for a while, let it soak in real deep.

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I share a different opinion with you my friend. I can't really believe that a company would make one of the most popular games and then desire to squeeze a bit more out of the players and as a side effect kill their product. I do believe that SC cares about this game, like any game developing company cares when the game is going well and having a profit. Why break something that gives you profit.

Saying that, I believe the company tried to fix something they thought was wrong in the game but did not realize the extent of the damage it would trigger. Now they are in a bit of tight spot. I will not disagree with the statement that the new update might have been targeting to force people to spend more gems. Maybe that is true aswell but what I believe is that SC is really in a tight spot now and they are surely trying to fix the problems in regards to the new update.

The only issue is that they have to be very very sure that the new version of the game will be "safe proof" and not trigger another wave of disappointment. That is why they are taking so long. I believe they have been informed of the probable issues in gameplay and now are looking at the game data to see if all the complains are actually true. Remember, numbers never lie if you know how to interpret them.

what is the best way to fix the current issues? I don't know. I don't think it will be easy. Actually I think it would be very hard from SC prospective. Sure, you can say "just roll the update back". I don't think its a matter of pride or the money spent for the update that are the reasons SC has not rolled the update back.

I genuinely believe they are analyzing data to see if what people complain about is actually true in the actual gameplay. I could argue and complain that I cannot get any loot but is that really the case? Is it the gameplay the cause of that, or is it the player himself? They read the data and see the actual income of several bases before the update and after the update. Compare it to the trophy league the players are before and after the update and surely check the same loot generator in other leagues, higher and lower. Everything has to be thoroughly analyzed. There is no room for mistakes anymore.

One thing I strongly agree with most of the posts read, is the communication issue. I have no words on that subject I am sorry. By communication I don't mean the forum administrators or moderators. These guys are responding as much as they can to us clashers. Just read some of their posts. Trying to answer to endless number of questions. But the question is, shouldn't there be more official announcements from SC itself?

Who doesnt adore Jonas? I know I do. I mean look at him, with those feezy hair, round little face and cheeks. He looks like a teddy bear. Who wouldn't be relieved and how many people would stop complaining if he just stood up and said "I know you guys are having trouble right now. I know people are confused with the changes. I even know many of you are frustrated right now but believe me, we at SC are trying really hard to analyze all the data and find the best solution possible so that you and we togehter can make this game reach an unimaginable extent of game excitement." Who would not believe that statement. Surely thousands of clashers would. I know I would believe him and moreover I would feel more confident that things regarding this game will go better.

Having said all that, to sum up, I do believe SC is trying hard to fix the real issues with the update. I do believe and sympathize with the clashers that are having a struggle. And last but not least, I hope the game will be rebalanced, issues fixed and return to its former glory.

Enough said from me, a clasher like all of you guys. Care to comment? By all means do!

Coming to think about it. Shouldn't we all make one big thread to filter all the possible issues we may have in respect to the new update and furthermore place those issues according to the trophy league we are currently at and the th level aswell. Surely the more details we present along with the issue we have, the easier it would be to find a possible solution. Who knows, maybe SC could benefit from such a detailed thread?

in all of this noise, where is Supercell putting down their side of the story ?

A most perplexing issue, why not speak up and provide some input to the discussion.

Even if they make a mistake, its not going to be any worse than it already is.

funny about how everyone started flocking to the lower cup range pre and post update in fear without knowing what was going to happen. I took this opportunity to climb back up from G1 to M3 and it's been great! My army comp hasn't changed, I have always been a GiBarcher, and while I have seen a slight decrease in loot available, it hasn't been that much.

I don't hunt for full collectors/mines. but I'll take them if I find them... I have always hunted the storages, and still do.

Still finding lots of juicy storages up in masters, so my loot intake with the league bonues hasn't really changed all that much post update.

yes, there is no more sniping, so no easy league bonuses or free shields. And yes, I still get steamrolled by th10s and lose 200-300k of each, but I make that back 3x over while my shield is still up.

People just need to adapt, and learn that there are other ways to gain loot than hiding down low and praying to find full collectors. Time to start learning how to attack people.

None of this has made the game any less enjoyable for me, in fact it's just added a new level of challenge to the game that I relish.

Yes 100% agree with OP. I am mid lvl th10 and drop down to 800-1200 cups and obliterate th9s and rushed th10s. My wife is a mid level th9 and she quit the game. I feel bad for th9 and lower. There is no place for them to go.

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Who doesnt adore Jonas? I know I do. I mean look at him, with those feezy hair, round little face and cheeks. He looks like a teddy bear.

Well uhhh yeah,ahem... Yes well that escalated quickly. I think I'll be going now..........

I'll believe SC is working hard on a better update when I see it. Not before.

I keep lurking her hoping something will change. I haven't uninstalled yet but I have stopped playing. They're are a few simple code changes that could restore the casual game they could even keep the all up attacks or at least something close. They haven't done it or said anything at all.

I liked this game and company but they have spent their goodwill. Each day I'm more of the mind set of to heck with them.

I have a feeling that the effect of the update was intentional. I mean, they would have run multiple tests and analyzed those results right?

I have played COC for a good 2 years now, seen a lot of updates and not seen this much discourse the entire time. At this point I think I intend to continue playing just to ride the dead horse until he finally collapses. When the game finally ends I can say that I stuck around even though I disliked the gameplay, but look we were right. I never left because I hoped you could give us another horse instead of killing this one.

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Please feel free to say your opinion on the original post. I know it's very long and maybe boring to read but it would be nice to hear some of your thoughts. Maybe this way we can all contribute in a way to fix the current issues.

once again thank you for spending your time in this thread.

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Long before the update, the th10s and th9s were diving to silver for the easy loot. It was not a secret. It occurred after match making changes were made months and months ago. One of my accounts went down too and it was indeed nice. Cheap armies to get good loot. My th9 that was down there would wake up every morning with 100s of trophies. So I would then drop 100s of trophies. It was crazy. It went on like that every day.

My point? This trophy dropping league diving by the big boys is not new. My main account is still in champs and it is doing fine with war armies and about five minutes of nexting per attack every 1.5 to 2 hours.


No one one here has the real data other than supercell. They know if "everyone" is leaving high leagues. They know if all these people are "really" quitting. They know if players are no longer buying gems. They have the data for all this. If the numbers are not a problem, then they have no reason to change anything. If the numbers are bad and impact their bottom line, they will change. They are a for profit corporation. They will make strategic decisions and changes based on the data that they see and how that data impacts them financially. That's it. Supercell is not your mom or your friend. It is a corporation. People need to get over this "betrayal" mentality and accept it or move on.


I hope something changes to make everyone happy because it's a bummer seeing so many unhappy people. But I'm also a realist and know that nothing will change if the corporation has no reason to change anything back. I'm happy with the new game. I suspect others are too. But again, I don't have the real data either. So if supercell does nothing more to change anything back, then I will take that as a sign that they are not worried about the data and trends they are seeing.

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I have a feeling that the effect of the update was intentional. I mean, they would have run multiple tests and analyzed those results right?

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Few words on that, elixir wall update. At first it was a disaster, then had to be tweaked and worked after. When is this updates tweak?

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Originally Posted by EtherealMind

in all of this noise, where is Supercell putting down their side of the story ?

A most perplexing issue, why not speak up and provide some input to the discussion.

Even if they make a mistake, its not going to be any worse than it already is.

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Etherealmind please read my second long post in this thread. I too believe the communication should have been better.

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Originally Posted by immortarr

Who doesnt adore Jonas? I know I do. I mean look at him, with those feezy hair, round little face and cheeks. He looks like a teddy bear.

Well uhhh yeah,ahem... Yes well that escalated quickly. I think I'll be going now..........

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Hahahaha, you misunderstood mate! I am happily married with a gorgeous woman!!!

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Few words on that, elixir wall update. At first it was a disaster, then had to be tweaked and worked after. When is this updates tweak?

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Umm... Reduction in cost of training may help? Btw, thank God they reduced X-bow reloading cost!

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I'll believe SC is working hard on a better update when I see it. Not before.

I keep lurking her hoping something will change. I haven't uninstalled yet but I have stopped playing. They're are a few simple code changes that could restore the casual game they could even keep the all up attacks or at least something close. They haven't done it or said anything at all.

I liked this game and company but they have spent their goodwill. Each day I'm more of the mind set of to heck with them.

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And believe me when I say this my friend, I don't blame you. You have every right I quess to feel this way.

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This is exactly what I did. Surely supercells intentions were for us all to push, I don't understand why they didn't incentivise it more? It wasn't hard to see how it was going to end up if they didn't. Now we're all in lower leagues than previously...

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TH sniping (the money) was incentive. Look how it brought sadness to SC. Incentives traumatize SC.

Loot has never been better in masters. It is like golden hour all the time now. Your chain reaction. Is not happening.

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Long before the update, the th10s and th9s were diving to silver for the easy loot. It was not a secret. It occurred after match making changes were made months and months ago. One of my accounts went down too and it was indeed nice. Cheap armies to get good loot. My th9 that was down there would wake up every morning with 100s of trophies. So I would then drop 100s of trophies. It was crazy. It went on like that every day.

My point? This trophy dropping league diving by the big boys is not new. My main account is still in champs and it is doing fine with war armies and about five minutes of nexting per attack every 1.5 to 2 hours.


No one one here has the real data other than supercell. They know if "everyone" is leaving high leagues. They know if all these people are "really" quitting. They know if players are no longer buying gems. They have the data for all this. If the numbers are not a problem, then they have no reason to change anything. If the numbers are bad and impact their bottom line, they will change. They are a for profit corporation. They will make strategic decisions and changes based on the data that they see and how that data impacts them financially. That's it. Supercell is not your mom or your friend. It is a corporation. People need to get over this "betrayal" mentality and accept it or move on.


I hope something changes to make everyone happy because it's a bummer seeing so many unhappy people. But I'm also a realist and know that nothing will change if the corporation has no reason to change anything back. I'm happy with the new game. I suspect others are too. But again, I don't have the real data either. So if supercell does nothing more to change anything back, then I will take that as a sign that they are not worried about the data and trends they are seeing.

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I agree with you my friend, that is why I said before that they are possibly analyzing data and numbers never lie as long as you know how to interpret them.

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Loot has never been better in masters. It is like golden hour all the time now. Your chain reaction. Is not happening.

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I disagree with you my friend but only SC has the data and can really know if there is a trophy drop reaction by lots of players.

3 years I've played... But I quit, the changes just don't worth my relaxing time... And thats the important thing, I play to relax, to have fun, I bought gems n the past, and I still have almost 3000, but its... Sorry if this offends anyone... Extremely stupid having to "work" your way and adapt playing a game you are playing for 3 years because developers one day decided that their customers are wrong.... Right, thats the m.o. of all bussiness.... Customers are wrong...
I'm 44 years old, and there is no way I'm going to allow this people to treat me as If I'm 10 yrs old, telling me "no, you can't PLAY the way you want".
enough its enough

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3 years I've played... But I quit, the changes just don't worth my relaxing time... And thats the important thing, I play to relax, to have fun, I bought gems n the past, and I still have almost 3000, but its... Sorry if this offends anyone... Extremely stupid having to "work" your way and adapt playing a game you are playing for 3 years because developers one day decided that their customers are wrong.... Right, thats the m.o. of all bussiness.... Customers are wrong...
I'm 44 years old, and there is no way I'm going to allow this people to treat me as If I'm 10 yrs old, telling me "no, you can't PLAY the way you want".
enough its enough

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I agree with you Mavendotte. I also play for fun and find it relaxing. The update severely crippled the fun/relaxing part of the game for "casual players". COC was fun and relaxing because all different types of game play could be found in one place. The new update caters to upper level players that spend lots of money on gems and spend a lot of time. I have no problem with that style of game play and am happy for those types of players. However, they are in the minority. The majority are the average/casual game player that SC will lose if they don't make the tweaks necessary to make "ALL STYLES OF GAME PLAYERS HAPPY".

Tweaks that may help:
1. Defensive bonus. Rewards people for building a great base layout.
2. Reduced troop costs and training time. Helps all level of players and will provide incentive to build bigger armies and make people learn to adapt different attack strategies. Which is what SC wants.
3. Allow Heros to participate in war when upgrading or allow a reduced gem cost if in war to complete training.
4. Set up slightly different rules for the different leagues to entice players to push to the highest league they are comfortable in. When they push into higher leagues they will be rewarded and get the best bang for their buck. There is absolutely no reason to push higher right now with reduced bonus payouts if you don't get 70% on attack. Make it worth pushing up for trophies. Right now total opposite is happening and people to dropping trophies like crazy to go down. Opposite consequence of what SC intended for this update.
5. Larger loot bonuses for war wins. Maybe even add in a few gems for a win to be divided per team? Keep war community happy.
6. Increase output of collectors 20-40% to help with an influx of loot into the economy, which in turn will be available to all. TH sniping took away a lot of loot influx, and somehow this needs to be replaced to keep a balance.

These are just a few ideas and there are many very good ideas and threads written out there on the forums. If some of the very bright, intelligent, non biased people would put together a thread with a complete list out all the practical ideas to drive the SC COC economy in a positive direction that benefits "ALL PLAYER TYPES/STYLES".

SC COC was great because it catered to ALL PLAYER TYPES/STYLES. Lets make the appropriate tweaks to benefit all.

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I agree with you Mavendotte. I also play for fun and find it relaxing. The update severely crippled the fun/relaxing part of the game for "casual players". COC was fun and relaxing because all different types of game play could be found in one place. The new update caters to upper level players that spend lots of money on gems and spend a lot of time. I have no problem with that style of game play and am happy for those types of players. However, they are in the minority. The majority are the average/casual game player that SC will lose if they don't make the tweaks necessary to make "ALL STYLES OF GAME PLAYERS HAPPY".

Tweaks that may help:
1. Defensive bonus. Rewards people for building a great base layout.
2. Reduced troop costs and training time. Helps all level of players and will provide incentive to build bigger armies and make people learn to adapt different attack strategies. Which is what SC wants.
3. Allow Heros to participate in war when upgrading or allow a reduced gem cost if in war to complete training.
4. Set up slightly different rules for the different leagues to entice players to push to the highest league they are comfortable in. When they push into higher leagues they will be rewarded and get the best bang for their buck. There is absolutely no reason to push higher right now with reduced bonus payouts if you don't get 70% on attack. Make it worth pushing up for trophies. Right now total opposite is happening and people to dropping trophies like crazy to go down. Opposite consequence of what SC intended for this update.
5. Larger loot bonuses for war wins. Maybe even add in a few gems for a win to be divided per team? Keep war community happy.
6. Increase output of collectors 20-40% to help with an influx of loot into the economy, which in turn will be available to all. TH sniping took away a lot of loot influx, and somehow this needs to be replaced to keep a balance.

These are just a few ideas and there are many very good ideas and threads written out there on the forums. If some of the very bright, intelligent, non biased people would put together a thread with a complete list out all the practical ideas to drive the SC COC economy in a positive direction that benefits "ALL PLAYER TYPES/STYLES".

SC COC was great because it catered to ALL PLAYER TYPES/STYLES. Lets make the appropriate tweaks to benefit all.

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Well said my friend and really nice ideas. This is what this post should be all about. Give rational ideas guys. Let's help, so they can help us.
All clashers face problems in the new update. Some face even greater problems like Mavendotte. This game as you guys said very well, was popular due to the fact that it allowed us to play in different kind of styles. That could not have been said better, well done guys. Let's keep this up. Chip in the ideas if you like. Let's start addressing the problem if we can.

Everyday I see an endless ocean of complaining posts. People writing down their personal experience in the game past the new update. It's unbelievable what effect this changed has brought to many clashers. I am starting to believe that even if the update was all good news and sweet (hypothesizing here) since it has brought so much complaining among the clashers, would it be wise to keep the update?

Still i I am hanging in there, trying my best to continue developing my base as best as I can, and I believe a lot of clashers are hanging in there. Waiting to see SC's response.

i would like to believe that SC will present changes to the update to the relief of its clashers. But the real question is when all this fog goes away, will the relation of the clashers with the company be the same? Will people play the game with the excitement they used to? Or will the numbers of clashers go heavily down thus eventually making the game into a boring way of spending your time?

I have stopped spending gems in the game since the new update. I just keep what I have and wait to see what happens. Will the lower trophy clashers stop playing and stop spending to a degree that will affect all the trophy leagues, even the higher ones? Although I want to believe that the game will relapse from its bad current state, still I am very unsure of its future.

Keep good ideas flowing

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Originally Posted by Bluntdawg

People just need to adapt, and learn that there are other ways to gain loot than hiding down low and praying to find full collectors. Time to start learning how to attack people.

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Your profile says your gg is 692m, and 1297 neat and tidy. That puts you at over 1 years and 3 months of game play. I enjoy efficient farming myself. I recall I had 1.2 billion gg, th9 with all lava walls, and 25/25 royals within 1 year of game play in the low leagues (that's about twice as fast as you for comparison sake). It's awesome that you enjoy slower progress with a heavier army, but please don't judge others who likes to farm faster and more efficiently if you don't want to be judge yourself. :)

PS. Please don't assume farmers don't know how to attack? I have 3 starred max th10s before. My "farming" clan has 1 lost in our last 50+ war, and we also beat a top 25 war clan that had a record of 254-15.