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I keep reading that the problem with the update is that it's removed too much loot from the game's economy. But what if we're thinking about it all backwards like?
Seriously, keep the update and drop the cost of all upgrades by about 75%. Loot will still be harder to come by but a) you won't need as much of it and b) you won't need to try and hoard it for so long...
People will raid and upgrade, and all balance will be restored.
This would create a lot of problems in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noodez
Problems for who? The people who aren't already walking away?
1. Some have upgraded these buildings at a higher cost and would be angry that others don't have to do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noodez
2. Lower costs would mean everyone will hold less loot, resulting in a worse economy.
3. The game may advance too quickly and it should be very difficult to max.
1. Let them cry. The game is not static, and clearly there are winners and losers with every change.
2. What's the good of an economy that only the truly powerful can enjoy?
3. It still would. But as it stands, why would I bother to raid if I'm actually never going to be able to upgrade?
I gave this update the benefit of the doubt, but for now I think I'm done.
Let me know when they switch the game-play dial back to "fun". Plenty of ways it could be done if they want to.
1. So you're saying that supercell should give you what you want and disregard anyone else's feelings of the matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noodez
2. I'm unsure how this is related? Lowering costs for the more powerful would lower the available loot for the more powerful... On an unrelated note, welcome to America.
3. This is why they should increase the loot bonus.
If only America was the world.
*beats head against wall*
Have you not realised the flaw in what you said? Those maxed th10s or something that may be mad if this happened, were able to max out, when they were still able to gain high amounts of loot. So think about it, doesn't this mean it wld be unfair for all those un-maxed people too? However, lowering the cost wld indeed come with problems. 1. Collectors wld become very op, considering you cld get like 100k of each resources from the collectors every around 4-5hs, If you do the math, that wld equate to about, perhaps, 400k of each resource everyday, taking away resources that have been looted. Thats enough to upgrade something if the cost was lowered by 75%.
Omg.. People can't think these days and are such hogs.
75%!? You crazy? Gemmed maxed bases would be worth less and would create less profits.
SC didn't want huge profits with cheap armies and is why they removed sniping and most dead bases, get use to it or just quit.
Maybe that's one of them ambit claims you sometimes hear about...?Quote:
Originally Posted by PureEnergy66
I don't agree with lowering the prices... The thing I like about this system is that if u spend more time playing and you can raid better than most ppl, then your base will look more awesome than 99% of all players. However, I AM having trouble finding loot now, like its still there and I'm getting it but it takes a lot more nexting until I find it, which defeats their theory that the update increases loot.
Honestly SC seems to really want ppl to actually give a damn about trophies, but as a th8 why would I bother pushing up to Crystal if most of the gold is in bronze/silver where all the dead bases are? If I were in their position, I would decrease the amount of loot you can steal from someone's base very slightly, and increase the loot bonus dramatically. Crystal league should offer at LEAST 100K gold and elixer, then you'll see EVERYONE scrambling to get there since it is achievable for a th8 to be there. Result of doing this is that the practice of dropping trophies will finally end. Th9's will start attacking th9's in masters where they belong because the loot bonus actually matters now. Ofc they won't do it so I'm just gonna have to spend months longer to max my damn walls at silver league -.-
Doesn't this have to do with the type of targets you're choosing to loot from?
Since the update i've had no trouble finding loot but it has been loot from storages. I get you're having trouble finding loot from collectors as those bases don't get the shield that easy anymore and get raided more often so full collectors become less available.
But that's part of the update's purpose, the idea was that people had to do more to get that loot they want and wouldn't be able to hide behind cheap TH-sniped shields. Wether you're in silver, gold or cristal bases with free to loot collectors are looted or not available , and bases without TH-sniped shields but stuffed storages are more available.
So your division doesn't matter that much anymore, the global change is that everyone has become a target and free resources are gone. I suggest you start farming with proper armies instead of barching collectors, cos that has been the core change this update and honostly i support that change.
I've always raided from storages and I still raid from storages. The problem is that the vast majority of bases with lots of loot existed because ppl were able to raid collectors previously and make lots of loot that way. Also know that lots of ppl suck at the game, so they'll either quit or stay poor forever. For me I've seen an obvious decline of the game economy, and lots of ppl can agree with me. Esp since now ppl aren't hiding behind town hall snipes, where's all the full bases that are easy to find in 4-5 nexts that we were promised? They don't exist and the update is flawed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HungryHungryHippo
Just out of curiosity, how much loot do you settle for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Drogon1
4-5 nexts might be a bit ambitious but i don't need to next 10 times to get a 300K+ (on each Res) target.
Maybe you don't settle with 300K/each but i find farming not hard at all with that criteria.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ime-adjustment
I don't think lowering building prices is right solution. I think troop prices and troop bulding times at least on high tier troops should be lowered.
I settle for 200k usually. Lately I've been pressing next for 20-40 times, and the only bases with that amount of loot are max th9's (I'm th8). You must be really lucky to find that much loot all the timeQuote:
Originally Posted by HungryHungryHippo
This is a good idea haha everyone in coc going bankrupt in resources might as well change the cost of upgrades haha just go back to the old way of thing when coc was actually pretty fun to play
People these days, as a business they need to maximize their profit and not just give away their profit. Just get use to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noodez
Well I have several things to say.
I've noticed that the new matchmaking systems now depends on the PBT, because they want people to defend and if you dont, you'll just get struck with PBT, which is the reason why most people you find have loot on storages. Notice: the closer you are to PBT, the more succeptible to attacks you are. That's why 3000k in loot from collectors is almost impossible and my TH8 base just proved that.
I was paying more attention to my Lv.2 clan the past days, and haven't been on to my TH8 base for a while. When I returned, all my collectors were completely filled, and got more than 600k in resources that helped me recover my lost loot.
So yeah, more or less this is able to fix the economy but still needs everyone else's opinions http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-BETTER-DETAIL
This is something that you should read because every time your base gets skipped, you get loot depending on your league, and when you skip a base, your enemy recieve the loot depending on his league, so you should check it out, because I've spent a lot of time on this and this could bring a lot of people back.
So what can we say? Clash is now a game that you have to trophy push to win, cheap strategies like GiBarch don't work anymore, and I'm stuck with a Lv.1 BK and Lv.2 HTS and having a pickle upgrading my troops. Now I have to use GiVaWi + 3 Healing spells and 1 Poison spell in order to get the base, and most of the time, I get at least 1 star.