Skewed shield distribution and broken economy

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December 18th, 2015
Blanchardkyo

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Skewed shield distribution and broken economy

I have two ideas that could help SC to fix two well known problems.

First problem: skewed shield distribution
second problem: broken economy

The skewed shield distribution is related to the fact that maxed TH10 and TH11 are not a good target for riders (it's very hard to farm more than 50% of their resources), while low level THs with good loot are attacked as soon as they do not have a shield. For this reason high level TH cumulate and attackers need to next many times to find a good target. My idea is to reduce the probability to find a TH that has been skipped by many people. It can be done by multiplying the probability of a TH to be attacked by a factor (call it F) related to number of time that the TH has been skipped. This way we use info from the other players to determine if the TH is valuable to be attacked or not. Let's call the number of times that a TH is skipped N. F is a decreasing function of N.
A numerical example is: F=1-0.7*EXP(-5*EXP(-0.1*N)). Following this formula F in the beginning decreases slowly, after that the TH has been skipped 10 times it decreases at a faster pace. After 40 skip F converges to 0.3. Obviously these values vary by changing the function parameters.
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The second problem is related to the well known problem of “drying resources” in the game. It affects all kind of players, but the ones with more problems are the casual ones. People who do not farm or just do it few times per week cannot improve their TH beyond a certain level. It happens because without TH sniping every time they cumulate resources someone devastate their TH, the amount of resources they sum up weekly is super small. My suggestion is simple, we need just more resources from mines and collectors. It would help casual players to recover from devastating attacks and it would increase the disposable loot for attackers.

Ps:English is not my first language, I’m sorry for any mistakes
December 18th, 2015
sungirl

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Originally Posted by Blanchardkyo

I have two ideas that could help SC to fix a few well known problems.

First problem: skewed shield distribution
second problem: broken economy

The skewed shield distribution is related to the fact that maxed TH10 and TH11 are not a good target for riders (it's very hard to farm more than 50% of their resources), while low level THs with good loot are attacked as soon as they do not have a shield. For this reason high level TH cumulate and attackers need to next many times to find a good target. My idea is to reduce the probability to find a TH that has been skipped by many people. It can be done by multiplying the probability of a TH to be attacked by a factor (call it F) related to number of time that the TH has been skipped. This way we use info from the other players to determine if the TH is valuable to be attacked or not. Let's call the number of times that a TH is skipped N. F is a decreasing function of N.
A numerical example is: F=1-0.7*EXP(-5*EXP(-0.1*N)). Following this formula F in the beginning decreases slowly, after that the TH has been skipped 10 times it decreases at a faster pace. After 40 skip F converges to 0.3. Obviously these values vary by changing the function parameters.
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The second problem is related to the well known problem of “drying resources” in the game. It affects all kind of players, but the ones with more problems are the casual ones. People who do not farm or just do it few times per week cannot improve their TH beyond a certain level. It happens because without TH sniping every time they cumulate resources someone devastate their TH, the amount of resources they sum up weekly is super small. My suggestion is simple, we need just more resources from mines and collectors. It would help casual players to recover from devastating attacks and it would increase the disposable loot for attackers.

Ps:English is not my first language, I’m sorry for any mistakes

Hi! I posted today about increasing the production rate for collectors at all levels and to introduce a new level to the game. Would you mind checking it out since it relates to your post?
December 19th, 2015
Blanchardkyo

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Originally Posted by sungirl

Hi! I posted today about increasing the production rate for collectors at all levels and to introduce a new level to the game. Would you mind checking it out since it relates to your post?

Yes, I'm with you on that
December 19th, 2015
Jeffrey5344

I agree the economy of the game has become horrible. Match making has become so unfair, I have to hit the next button over 100 times just to find a raidable base. Any elixir that I do manage to find is spent making the army for the next raid. Then when my shield is gone, I get raided by some maxed out th10 and they take even more. Since the update my resources have been at a stand still. I've been playing for almost 2 years, but if the farming situation doesn't improve soon I'll probably uninstall the game. This game has always been fun, but lately it's turning into a big waste of time. There's no point in playing if I'm not going to make any progress.
December 19th, 2015
DrSalvador

economy solution

Supercell need to be more generous when tweaking the loot reward for successful attack, especially at higher leagues, so I propose to double, or maybe triple the reward. Economy is getting worse since the reward is getting cut because we only managed to get below 70% destruction.. If the loot reward on league bonus is tripled, many people will be more interested in... Raiding.
December 20th, 2015
Blanchardkyo

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Originally Posted by DrSalvador

Supercell need to be more generous when tweaking the loot reward for successful attack, especially at higher leagues, so I propose to double, or maybe triple the reward. Economy is getting worse since the reward is getting cut because we only managed to get below 70% destruction.. If the loot reward on league bonus is tripled, many people will be more interested in... Raiding.

There are many people who do not raid because are not interested in farming, by increasing collectors rate we:

1)give to these people the opportunity to cumulate resources
2)increase overall disposable loot for raiders

Increasing the league bonus would solve only the second problem. I think that Supercell should care of all kinds of players, at the moment and improving collectors is the right way to do it.

Obviously it does not mean that all the problems arose with the last update can be solved just improving collectors and mines, I advanced an idea to face the skewed shield distribution issue. Further adjustment should be done to TH 11 (the eagle seems to be almost useless at the moment, and the OP witches have been nerfed but probably in the wrong way).
December 20th, 2015
pitchke

I got the impression they removed alot of dead bases again... Dead bases are fun because they put loot ingame!
December 20th, 2015
Braxbro

I like this idea, if you want, you can check out my post.

I posted a petition to undo the TH11 update and refund the TH11's. If you want, I'll post a link since it seems to be along the lines of your wishes.
December 20th, 2015
Blanchardkyo

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Originally Posted by Braxbro

I posted a petition to undo the TH11 update and refund the TH11's. If you want, I'll post a link since it seems to be along the lines of your wishes.

No I like the new update, they just need to balance the resource flows. Probably they did not expect such a sharp increase of the gap between outflows and inflows.
December 20th, 2015
Braxbro

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Originally Posted by Blanchardkyo

No I like the new update, they just need to balance the resource flows. Probably they did not expect such a sharp increase of the gap between outflows and inflows.

I don't. I'm getting smacked by ONE GIANT from TH11's quite often now. Also, here is the post I previously mentioned.
December 20th, 2015
DrSalvador

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Originally Posted by Blanchardkyo

There are many people who do not raid because are not interested in farming, by increasing collectors rate we:

1)give to these people the opportunity to cumulate resources
2)increase overall disposable loot for raiders

Increasing the league bonus would solve only the second problem. I think that Supercell should care of all kinds of players, at the moment and improving collectors is the right way to do it.

Obviously it does not mean that all the problems arose with the last update can be solved just improving collectors and mines, I advanced an idea to face the skewed shield distribution issue. Further adjustment should be done to TH 11 (the eagle seems to be almost useless at the moment, and the OP witches have been nerfed but probably in the wrong way).

Improving collectors would be nice too. 10k elix per hour and 600de per hour? Who would say no to that? :v also, 800k gold elix from single raid from full collectors is.. Uhm... Irresistable...
December 20th, 2015
Blanchardkyo

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Originally Posted by DrSalvador

Improving collectors would be nice too. 10k elix per hour and 600de per hour? Who would say no to that? :v also, 800k gold elix from single raid from full collectors is.. Uhm... Irresistable...

Lol, I said that we need to balance flows. 10k per hour is a crazy amount.
December 20th, 2015
DrSalvador

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Originally Posted by Blanchardkyo

Lol, I said that we need to balance flows. 10k per hour is a crazy amount.

Anyway, we're gonna need better economy than this. Hopefully SC will hear the plea of the blootthirsty clashers :3