Do you farm? Want to learn all the tricks? Join Exploited!

• About Us •

We are a network of 3 farming clans setup in a tiered format. We have one thing in mind, farming! We use a multi-clan hierarchy to cater to whatever level you are at in your farming career. However this does not mean we accept everyone. We are not for the average farmer. Each clan(even the lowest tier) has entry requirements designed to weed out the more casual players. The top most clan only accepts excellence into it's ranks. Our senior members regularly bounce between the clans to help foster an environment of family and solidarity. We like to joke around and have adult conversations. Kids generally don't fit in well with us therefore maturity is a must in all 3 clans.


• Why Should You Join? •

-Knowledge- We have been doing this a long time and we enjoy sharing our info.
-Strength- Our bases are very strong, many of the strongest farmers in game are in our ranks.
-Atmosphere- Friendly, active, helpful and extremely giving with donations.
-Fun- Even though we are hardcore farmers, It's still a game! You can't take yourself too seriously. :)
-Dedication- We do not feed a trophy clan, we are farming all the way. We are borderline CoC addicts.!
-Satisfaction- Move up through the ranks of our farming network as you progress in strength learning new techniques along the way.


• The Requirements •

-Global Requirements for all 3 clans-
-Maturity
-No Premature TH9
-Positive attitude
-Active(constantly inactive builders or low donations get you kicked)
-No Heavy Gemmers
-5 Builders

-Specific Clan Requirements-

Exploiters
-Level 30+
-All Pink walls+
-TH7

Exploited
-Level 50+
-All Purple walls+
-TH8


Exploitation
-Level 60+
-All Black walls+
-TH9


That's it. 3 clans to choose from. Pick the one that works best for you and come join the family :)

Please PM sensi if you wish to ask any questions. Thanks!

Come and join the fun and get in early before the entrance bar keeps going up !!! We're here to help you get ahead !!

Join Exploited !!

3+ Builders to join

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Originally Posted by serj

New farming clan that feeds an elite farming clan is recruiting. We have very experienced and active elders/members. Maxed out troops to donate. Your Clan Castle will thank you. The bar to join will continually be raised so here's your chance to get in early(level 30+). Search for Exploited in clan search, check out some of our elders bases to see how hard we farm(We are not gemmers).

If you enjoy farming you will not be disappointed in joining us, that's for sure..

Maturity is a must, if you act like a kid we will assume you are one and will be kicked..

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I have 4 builders (working on my fifth one) lvl 44 with th8 20 years old ? I'm about to send a request, hopefully I make it *crosses fingers* In Game Name: suhpremuhsee

Welcome to Exploited suhpremuhsee !!!

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Originally Posted by serj

New farming clan that feeds an elite farming clan is recruiting. We have very experienced and active elders/members. Maxed out troops to donate. Your Clan Castle will thank you. The bar to join will continually be raised so here's your chance to get in early(level 30+). Search for Exploited in clan search, check out some of our elders bases to see how hard we farm(We are not gemmers).

If you enjoy farming you will not be disappointed in joining us, that's for sure..

Maturity is a must, if you act like a kid we will assume you are one and will be kicked..

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Bumping :)

Level requirement bumped up to 35. Get in before it goes up further! :)

You can read our rules here...
http://exploited.wikia.com/wiki/Rules_of_the_Road

I'm interested but I have a question; are we talking about lvl 5 troops exclusively or lower too?

in-game "Felix"
TH7
lvl 66

If your base is strong enough to move up to exploitation(our parent farming clan), it's all level 5 troops with elite bases. If you aren't quite ready for that you stick with us until you are..there are some members who donate lower than level 5 in our feeder..though I have nothing wrong with people who request to only have lvl 5 or certain types of troops donated to them. As long as you donate back request whatever you like.

Feel free to stop by for a visit before making your final decision :)

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Originally Posted by serj

If your base is strong enough to move up to exploitation(our parent farming clan), it's all level 5 troops with elite bases. If you aren't quite ready for that you stick with us until you are..there are some members who donate lower than level 5 in our feeder..though I have nothing wrong with people who request to only have lvl 5 or certain types of troops donated to them. As long as you donate back request whatever you like.

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I see. I might join Exploited, considering that at the moment.

Ciao Serj, I am a farmer wannabe. :) Lvl 46, TH7 from Italy.
I am downloading glassboard. Can you invite me, nick on glassboard is the same as here.

Thanks
Blu

I'm assuming you meant game center nick? If so I just sent you a request...

Serj, I sent you a PM. ;)

come and join Exploited !!! many players with maxed troops to donate !!!

I am lvl 50 TH7 player.. very active... Level 4 archers in progress.. 5th builder in 3 days with gems from latest achievement.. lvel7 walls upgrade in progress.. 30% done... damn they are expensive

What I need from a clan is :
1. Helpful people
2. Troops back.. I donated 900+ troops last week in my current clan but had to struggle to get from others... so kinda frustrated
3. Tips & suggestions to improve and farm

If your clan suits my needs and I suit yours to join.. let me know !

We are so active it's clearly an addiction...You'd think we had a teaching curriculum setup we help people so much..rott has already donated over 1300 since the donation reset 30 or so hours ago. Our parent clan(exploitation) is literally the strongest pound for pound farming clan I have seen(and I'm not just saying that), so our knowledge base is very strong. Join us you will not be disappointed.

Serj.. send you a PM... have a look and confirm

Love this clan, lots help, everyone are friendly. Plus you could learn alot from other members. ;););)

Thanks for all the great support ! The entrance currently is at Level 40+ with at least 3 builders....join now before the bar goes even higher !! Cheers !!!

Come join Exploited !

Just know that if you join this clan you cant say anything bad, like a$$ hole. lol

oh no, we swear regularly. But he hits on something here...Maturity is very important. If you are young and prone to tantrums or drama..we are not the clan for you. There's no secret about that.

Frankly I was waiting for you to post in here kev..why am I not surprised...

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Originally Posted by kev98gsx

Just know that if you join this clan you cant say anything bad, like a$$ hole. lol

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We just cant stand whiney ♥♥♥♥♥es

To defend Klepto we were told to post and bring to everyones attention when problems arose with the group. We did that and were accosted by a member of this clan.

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Originally Posted by Jchappy27

To defend Klepto we were told to post and bring to everyones attention when problems arose with the group. We did that and were accosted by a member of this clan.

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that's exactly right, and all I did was back my players like any clans leader should do.

Honestly guys we are already beyond the drama with your clan. If you for some reason can't move on that's fine. But I do ask you take it elsewhere and off our recruitment thread.

alright man. i will go, and please know i don't dwell on these kind of things, i mean this is just a game. good luck fellas. :rolleyes:

I'm half surprised by this response..thank you kev..good luck.

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Originally Posted by serj

New farming clan that feeds an elite farming clan is recruiting a few strong people. We have very experienced and active elders/members. Maxed out troops to donate. Your Clan Castle will thank you. The bar to join will continually be raised so here's your chance to get in early(level 40+). Search for Exploited in clan search, check out some of our elders bases to see how hard we farm(We are not gemmers).

If you enjoy farming you will not be disappointed in joining us, that's for sure..

Maturity is a must, if you act like a kid we will assume you are one and will be kicked..

**Demand to join was much higher than we anticipated. I apologize if we have to reject you. We are looking for level 40+ with relatively strong bases(grey walls will immediately disqualify you).**

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Heres my application... I am a lvl 53 with lvl 6 and 7 walls and I am a lvl 7 TH.. My gold and elixir collectors and mines are medium lvl 7-9. I have lvl 7 and 8 archers and 7. Lvl 8 cannons and lvl 3 and 4 air defence.lvl 3 and 4 wizards and all lvl 5 mortars and lvl 1 and 3 teslas. Lvl 3 cc. I have lvl 4 troops though and lvl 2 dragon and healer. Is that ok?

You actually sound like a good fit. Feel free to request to join :)

I just sent a request and was rejected. I was just wondering why. My username is kristin

I wasn't on at the time and it's already cleared clan chat. What's your GC? I'll add you and let you know why. You can PM it to me if you like

We look forward to having you join our teams !!!

We now have a 2nd feeder clan. If we had to turn you away you are welcome to join exploiters

Serj thanks for inviting me.

The members are great, help out a lot with any questions and everyone donates like mad :cool: Great Clan!!!

Share the same feeling Keeway...

For any farmer this is the best clan to be in !

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Originally Posted by Keeway2000

Serj thanks for inviting me.

The members are great, help out a lot with any questions and everyone donates like mad :cool: Great Clan!!!

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Welcome to the Clans Keeway & Crazy !!

Hi there,

I'd like to apply. I've got the following creds

4 builders huts

Lvl 11
all collectors and storages

Lvl 8
2 barracks

Lvl 7
town hall
3 cannons
4 archery towers
2 barracks
walls

Lvl 6
all camps

Lvl 4
3 mortars
all troops
1 air def other upgrading

Sounds great Vexed ! Come on over and request to join Exploited ! look forward to meeting you !

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Originally Posted by Vexed

Hi there,

I'd like to apply. I've got the following creds

4 builders huts

Lvl 11
all collectors and storages

Lvl 8
2 barracks

Lvl 7
town hall
3 cannons
4 archery towers
2 barracks
walls

Lvl 6
all camps

Lvl 4
3 mortars
all troops
1 air def other upgrading

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Joined this clan a couple of days ago , all i can say is this is a great clan . Players here are awfully helpful and you will often find your clan castle filled up with troops in no time. Learnt lots of farming tips and tricks too ! :)

Glad to hear you're happy Zach and glad to have you on board ! You're a great addition to our clans !! Cheers !!

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Originally Posted by Zacharyishere

Joined this clan a couple of days ago , all i can say is this is a great clan . Players here are awfully helpful and you will often find your clan castle filled up with troops in no time. Learnt lots of farming tips and tricks too ! :)

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Originally Posted by Zacharyishere

Joined this clan a couple of days ago , all i can say is this is a great clan . Players here are awfully helpful and you will often find your clan castle filled up with troops in no time. Learnt lots of farming tips and tricks too ! :)

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Doing great Zach , keep it up

I joined Exploited about a week or so ago and am now a member of Exploiters. If you're looking for an experienced farming clan to learn from or be part of - this is where it's at!!

** Elders are active - they give great advice and constructive criticism helping you to advance
** Donations are great, high level troops and requests are almost always immediately tended (most times it's a "race" to be able to catch the request in time to donate)
** Immaturity is not tolerated :)
** Be sure to read the link for "Rules of the Road"; very informative.
** No joke about the builders, 2 does not cut it.


In-Game: Erin

Hi I would like to join I did try but I was kicked right after I was accepted I have a level 9 th and a Xbow and all troops level 3 and I also donate a lot! Please send an invite I'm name is Tyler

Joined exploiters yesterday and its a brilliant clan filled with helpful friendly people.

-le

Welcome Lew!

Tyler what is your Game Center name?

Hi, member of the clans majority from which part of the world?

Good post Erin!

I agree with what you are saying here. I would like to add one more item:

If you are fairly new to the game don't act like you know better than the elders here. They have learned over time the best ways to play the game. If you aren't willing to listen, learn, and apply the changes to your base then you will be bumped!

If you are teachable though - you will learn a lot and have fun at the same time.
See you in the EX clans!

death march

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Originally Posted by DuncanIdaho

I joined Exploited about a week or so ago and am now a member of Exploiters. If you're looking for an experienced farming clan to learn from or be part of - this is where it's at!!

** Elders are active - they give great advice and constructive criticism helping you to advance
** Donations are great, high level troops and requests are almost always immediately tended (most times it's a "race" to be able to catch the request in time to donate)
** Immaturity is not tolerated :)
** Be sure to read the link for "Rules of the Road"; very informative.
** No joke about the builders, 2 does not cut it.


In-Game: Erin

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Hello Aside,

We have many players from all over the world with the majority of them coming from the US and Europe.


Stop by and check out our Clans !


Cheers !

Rott

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Originally Posted by Aside

Hi, member of the clans majority from which part of the world?

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Originally Posted by deathmarch

Good post Erin!

I agree with what you are saying here. I would like to add one more item:

If you are fairly new to the game don't act like you know better than the elders here. They have learned over time the best ways to play the game. If you aren't willing to listen, learn, and apply the changes to your base then you will be bumped!

If you are teachable though - you will learn a lot and have fun at the same time.
See you in the EX clans!

death march

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Thanks for this death. We definitively offer lots of advice. Many people do not like to hear about inefficient base building or design if it applies to them. But if people are open to criticism it benefits everyone. I know I took a lot of flack for upgrading gold mines pretty early on. But hey we all make mistakes ;). We are constantly working to improve ourselves as well as our clan mates.

Thanks to all for the tremendous response ! We only have a few spots left in both of our Feeder Clans ! Stop by and check out the Exploitation family of Clans ! (Exploitation , Exploited & Exploiters )

There are plenty of farming clan choices out there..we are stronger than any I've seen. We do demand a lot from our members and are not for the casual player. If you wish to learn and grow with the extremely dedicated members of the ex crew. Join us today

Lvl 30-40 exploiters
Lvl 40-55 exploited
Lvl 55+ exploitation

ALL farming clans. We take our farming seriously. No premature th9. No grey walls, 3+ builders...we donate strong and are always on. Check us out :)

I would love to join accept me bud :)

Hello to all new comers. I'm Ephekt. Just wanted to jump on and say Exploited is a great clan to join. Took me from level ~16 to ~34 in a few weeks and really helped me up my game. If you join, you'll get advice from myself and many other highly talented players who want to build strong bases and armies. Look forward to seeing some new face soon!

I would like to join! I am a Newbie to farming and would like to learn. I am level 53 with a level 8 townhall, Nearly maxed out mines and storages.
Level 8 TH/5 builder huts
Level 3/4 Wizard Towers
Level 7 cannons
Level 4 Mortar
Mostly Gold Walls
Level 7 Archer Towers
Level 3 Air Defense

Level 5 Army Camps
Level 4 Laboratory

Truth be told we have recently started requiring a majority pink walls...but what's your GC. I'll add you and check things out. You can PM it to me if you like :). No offense to you we have just had much higher demand lately

Hey guys Marcus here I started farming about 3 weeks ago and progressed a lot I'm with exploited and I must say what a team the elders are always active as well as our sister clans dropping by on visits :) my gaming is at its best just wanted to say five stars guys very happy with the exploitation trio - CoC name babarians

Hi I posted that I was looking for a clan and someone posted the link for this thread. What is the deal with Exploitation? Are they going to have more than 25 members anytime soon? I am a level 64 with good base and I'm already in a great clan but majority of members are in Australia while I am on east coast USA. That's why I'm wondering where they are based and if more members are joining soon..

The short answer is yes. The longer answer is that exploitation is extremely selective about who we let in. If ppl become inactive they are kicked. So our members are very active and dedicated. Also, we currently are managing 3 clans so many of the exploitation regulars(myself included) are serving as elders in the feeder clans. At some point we/they will return home once we are fully satisfied with the clans and ppl we can hand over the management to. So our numbers are definitely higher than they appear at first glance. We have a mix of locales from all over the world. The fastest growing of which seems to be the eastern US(that's where I am).

Hi UNC,

Yes , Exploitation has more than 25 members. We currently have three Clans total and we have our Elders from Exploitation in each of the other two new feeder Clans giving out help and advice as well as donating maxed troops to help get the two new Clans going. Feel free to take a look at the Elders bases in the other two Clans as well as the Exploitation bases. The other two Clans are Exploited and Exploiters. I'm currently in our Exploited Clan and we have many US based players in this Clan if you want to stop by and check us out. We have had a big response to our Recruiting Thread and have raised the entrance into Exploited to a minimum of Level 40+ , 3 Builders+ and pink walls+. You will also see many players in Exploited are much higher than the Level 40 as well. Both of our other Clans have 40+ members.

Feel free to stop by and say hi and tell them Rott sent you !


Cheers !

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Hi I posted that I was looking for a clan and someone posted the link for this thread. What is the deal with Exploitation? Are they going to have more than 25 members anytime soon? I am a level 64 with good base and I'm already in a great clan but majority of members are in Australia while I am on east coast USA. That's why I'm wondering where they are based and if more members are joining soon..

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I would like to join.
Level 30, 5 workers

We like people with 5 builders :) You should be able to level up quick. Go ahead and request to join exploiters as level 30 is still to low for exploited or exploitation. But with 5 it won't be that long as long as your base is up to snuff..

We have a few spots open. We are not for the average farmer. You must be very active and dedicated. It must show in your base(pink walls+). If that's the case join us. The most advanced farmers in the game are in our crew. Come be a part of it :)

We just promoted some people to our top level clan, so a few more slots opened up. go go go!

hi!

im lvl 34 and i would like to join the clan, i need some help to farm
still open doors?

theres my numbers
Level 6 TH (upgrading to 7, 5 days left)/4 builder huts
Level 1 and 2/2 Wizard Towers
Level 7/3 cannons
Level 2 and 4/2 Mortars
Mostly Gold Walls and some lvl 6 walls
Level 6 and 7/4Archer Towers (3 lvl 7)
Level 2 Air Defense

Level 5/3Army Camps
Level 4 Laboratory

some tips? what range of troph should i stay?

you could join our feeder exploiters. As far as farming 0..well it depends. It can be lucrative if you have the time to dedicate to it. I don't necessarily recommend it for th6 people though. You will be a sitting duck for the pro farmers down there the second you log off.

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Originally Posted by serj

you could join our feeder exploiters. As far as farming 0..well it depends. It can be lucrative if you have the time to dedicate to it. I don't necessarily recommend it for th6 people though. You will be a sitting duck for the pro farmers down there the second you log off.

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yeah thats what i saw
how many trophies do u recommend with th6? and 7?

Why was i rejected out of this clan... level 69 th9 pink walls 5 builders, and all troops upgraded. And I know there are so many members weaker than me in Exploited. Noob ♥♥♥ clan.

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Why was i rejected out of this clan... level 69 th9 pink walls 5 builders, and all troops upgraded. And I know there are so many members weaker than me in Exploited. Noob ♥♥♥ clan.

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I didn't see a lvl 69 attempt to join today..if so it's likely because you are a very premature th9...there was a 64 earlier..are you supsayk?? I understand people feel offended when they don't make the cut. But we are discerning with who we let in...

If you ARE supsayk it's because you must have applied to a few farming clans all at once and were already in 'prince farming' when I went to approve you. At that point I then reject people to clear it off the clan chat..I was actually looking at your base right as you must have joined another.

*shrug*.

zehek, farmers in our clans who are your th level often suggest around 800 cups as a good area for farming..but honestly the best cup level changes pretty regularly which is why it's so important to get in with a good farming clan to be sure you get the info first, before the masses

Few spots just opened in Exploiters as well, lvl 30+, come take a look guys.

Please if you plan to join read our requirements. We are now regularly getting people from the forums who do not meet our standards. I understand we have a high bar set. We do not mean offense if we have to reject you. We keep our reqs high so we remain strong. This is a huge part of the reason why we get so many join requests. People like joining the strongest clan they can. I get that. But if we lower the bar for anyone it's hurts the overall clan networks strength. So Please just read the first message in this thread to see what the current requirements are before attempting to join any of our clans....thanks!

Please note this are farming clans when joining, if you have no interest in farming it is not for you.

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Please note this are farming clans when joining, if you have no interest in farming it is not for you.

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I've been farming with the lion clan that I've started with and now I would like to try out Exploitation.

Im lvl 72, dark purple walls, working on the black ones, and I have TH8, with max troops except balloons (lvl2) and pekka (lvl2).

All my splash defense and cannons have been maxed out for now, and almost all my archer towers are gonna be lvl9 (still working on maxing). My teslas are almost all lvl3 (working on it still) I've been playing every single day since I started on October and only have been in one clan that my friend started.

I'm pretty active when I'm not busy. I don't play when I'm working but when I'm off of work I always check COC.

I live in the Bay Area in California. I'm gonna sleep now, got work. Ill ask to join in 6-8 hours. thx for reading!

GAMECENTER: SenturusIX
Character: Senturus

EDIT: Actually Ill ask to join before I go to bed. Probably wont be active till I get off of work.

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Originally Posted by Senturus

I've been farming with the lion clan that I've started with and now I would like to try out Exploitation.

Im lvl 72, dark purple walls, working on the black ones, and I have TH8, with max troops except balloons (lvl2) and pekka (lvl2).

All my splash defense and cannons have been maxed out for now, and almost all my archer towers are gonna be lvl9 (still working on maxing). My teslas are almost all lvl3 (working on it still) I've been playing every single day since I started on October and only have been in one clan that my friend started.

I'm pretty active when I'm not busy. I don't play when I'm working but when I'm off of work I always check COC.

I live in the Bay Area in California. I'm gonna sleep now, got work. Ill ask to join in 6-8 hours. thx for reading!

GAMECENTER: SenturusIX
Character: Senturus

EDIT: Actually Ill ask to join before I go to bed. Probably wont be active till I get off of work.

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Senturus, would suggest you come into Exploitation for a chat.

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Senturus, would suggest you come into Exploitation for a chat.

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Cool I checked out your base Senturus, you look solid. Welcome

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Originally Posted by serj

you could join our feeder exploiters. As far as farming 0..well it depends. It can be lucrative if you have the time to dedicate to it. I don't necessarily recommend it for th6 people though. You will be a sitting duck for the pro farmers down there the second you log off.

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i asked to join the clan Exploiters. Hope will be in soon

cheers

I see you made it in. Welcome to the network zehek :)

In game Johnnie Lynch.

Look forward to feedback. Will move my base around to best help the clan and myself. Always in top 2 of my current clan in donations.

do I need to leave that clan before you can invite me?

I am over 35 years old.

For your consideration.

If you do not invite me please let me know what I have to do to be considered.

I read your rules and want to be in a clan like yours.

-johnnie

I'd like to become part of the Exploited clan. I farm but feel like there's something I'm not getting that's holding me back. Joining the Exploited gives me access to the clan's wisdom and strength as well as me giving my strength and wisdom to the clan. I'm constantly studying tweaking and adapting my defenses and offenses as I'm always online playing. I've read your criteria and rules and I look forward to joining your forces.


Lvl 50
I'm TH7
5 builders
All pink walls
All mortars maxed per level
All cannons maxed per level
All wizzys maxed per level
All army camps maxed per level
Lab maxed per level
Archers, Giants, & Goblins maxed per level
Archery towers maxing to level
And age-wise I'm over 21

I look forward to your response
Synthell

@johnnie, serjy is my game center feel free to add me and I'll let you know about your base.

@Synthell, sounds solid to me. Good timing too we just cut some nonactive members. Feel free to send an ingame request to join :)

Johnnie, I'd like to invite you to join exploiters until your walls are pink. It looks like you are well on your way. Won't be long til you can move up :)

We've recently trimmed some fat by kicking inactive members. If you want to learn from the strongest farmers in the game it's a good time to get in :).

I've been playing for a little over a month now. I'm lvl 30 and I decided it's finally time to join a clan. I was checking out the people in Exploitation, their bases are SICK! My walls are almost all gold. I know I'm not quite the requirements but can I please join anyway?

Aidann, I would say if you are serious about joining us then you should continue to farm and get up to snuff on the requirements then apply. Unfortunately we get tons of requests from people who aren't quite where we want them to be. If we let them all in it would lower our overall standard. No offense to you. Keep working and I'm sure you'll be able to get in :)

There are a couple slots open in our feeder clans. Get in before they are full again :)

I would like to join Exploited.

I just read your message in my thread... After reading the op, I don't think I'll be eligible to join :(

Level: 36
TH: 7 (in a days time from now)
Trophies: 1000-1200

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I would like to join Exploited.

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Welcome to the Ex family hla77!

Rnzu,
Sorry man, I know we have somewhat stringent rules to join. But keeping them helps us to maintain a competitive advantage. You are always welcome to reapply once you meet the requirements :)

Hello, Can I join the Exploiters clan?
Gamecenter ID: Butlerj23

Would love to join Exploiters and work my way up. Currently Level 38 TH8

Name same as forums

Hello Butlerj23 & Ahland3r,


Stop by and say hello to our Exploiters Clan ! We look forward to meeting you !


Calling all hardcore farmers to join our Exploit Family of Clans !!!


Cheers !

Rott

Because of demand we've had to increase join requirements further. If you were thinking of joining please reread the first post in this thread. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by serj

Because of demand we've had to increase join requirements further. If you were thinking of joining please reread the first post in this thread. Thanks!

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PM'd you :) please check it out.

Hi:) can i join the exploiters.?

claridez21,
It all depends on where you are at in the game. If you have a current clan or game center name you can PM me those with your in game name so I can check out your base. I will then let you know. Otherwise you can just try to join them and the elders there will determine it on the fly based on the requirements mentioned in the beginning of this thread.