|Anti 3 Star| FORDOR ZWEI |Farming Convertible|

FORDOR ZWEI

TH9 ANTI 3 STAR AND FARMING
(Updated farming version and vTH8.5 also!)

After the release of Fordor Zwei for TH8!
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/939684-Anti-3-Star-FORDOR-ZWEI-Farming-Convertible

Contents:
1. Change-log
2. Additions to FZ TH8
3. Anti Golavaloon
4. TH9 vWar image
5. How does it work?
6. vTH8.5 War Version
7. vFarming for TH9

Change-log:
Updated! (02-01-2015)
What's new?
1. New TH8.5 version.
2. Added contents to page.

(18-12-2015)
1. New Farming version (end of page)
2. Attackers view!
3. New small bomb arrangement.
4. New Seeking air mine positioning
5. Corrected sweeper direction.
6. Enlarged Queen's island

FZ is finally here for TH9, providing a modified design of FZ TH8 and more hardcore protection of loot without harming Anti 3 Star capabilities!

Main additions:

Anti-GoLavaLoon (ie. Golems, Lavahounds and Balloons)
The newest, most popular and powerful attack:
The most widely used troop combo is: 2 Golems, 2 Lavas, 8 Wizards, rest Balloons and 1 more Lavahound in clan castle.

GoLavaLoon, comprises of 3 steps:

1. Use Golems, Wizards, Heroes and one to two spells to take down enemy Archer Queen and as many possible air defences.
2. After Step 1. atleast 1 air defence and enemy Queen should be destroyed, We then drop a standard lavaloonion on the remaining air defences.

How this base defends GoLavaLoon
The major requirement of GLL, is to destroy enemy queen and an airdefence with GoWi, which is near impossible as defending queen is out of range of all air defenses and has a Queen's Island (ie. Queen has her own compartment and never comes out of it.)

All the air defences are far apart preventing someone from destroying more than one with GoWi. Air defences are out of range of wizard towers hence making wizard towers using their splash damage efficiently on balloons, unlureable cc prevents GLL to an extent too. Queen is faraway from air defenses hence attacks balloons and not lavahounds.

the base:
http://i.imgur.com/5x66Rdi.jpg


CC radius:
http://i.imgur.com/1YWo1YU.jpg
How does it work?
As a TH9, the most frequent and powerful attack strategies are :

GoHo (ie. Golems, Hogs and Wizards.)
This base has 3 well-pathed double giant bomb placements possible and an unlureable clan castle. Plus well placed spring traps are against Surgical placement. Skeletons are also strategically placed in spots where hogs may be over-powering.

See the image below, every hog entrance meet is with a well pathed spring trap, the major intersections have double giant bombs.

Star : Double Giant path, Coloured Circle : Spring trap.
http://i.imgur.com/yvecdmd.png

GoWiPe (ie. Golems, Wizards and Pekkas)
Lots of compartments and unlureable clan castle prevent a 3 Star. Golem pathing is also present to an extent. On testing it is majorly seen that Wizards and Pekkas get seperated from Golems.

GoWiWi (ie. Golems, Wizards and Witches)
Lots of compartments and unlureable clan castle prevent a 3 Star. Golem pathing is also present to an extent. On testing it is majorly seen that Wizards and Witches get seperated from Golems. Witches due to their slightly longer range than Wizards, attack buildings and stop where Wizards just move on, hence isolating themselves and getting killed.

Lavaloonion (ie, Lavahounds, balloons & minions)
Air defences are out of range of wizard towers hence making wizard towers using their splash damage efficiently on balloons, unlureable cc prevents lavaloonion to an extent too. Queen is faraway from air defenses hence attacking balloons and not lavahounds.

TH8.5 War Version

New TH8.5 dedicated version for War protection!
Features an unlureable CC.
This version assumes that the TH8.5 has no xbows, and TH8 quantity of defences .http://i.imgur.com/1bgrcA5.jpg

Farming Version for TH9

New farming dedicated version for enhanced DE protection!
Features an unlureable CC and centralized DE for maximum protection.
Suitable until 2800 trophies, might be ineffective against heavy attacks at higher leagues.
http://i.imgur.com/GXkqYyS.jpg

Attackers view of farming version

http://i.imgur.com/FiylNnO.jpg

Original FZ TH9 (discontinued, out of testing)
http://i.imgur.com/eDxvsmP.jpg

Best design I've seen in a while, nice work!

That being said, air sweeper placement feels a little off to me, could you perhaps explain the reasoning behind their placement?

Looks like a very nice Base to me.

Since i am a TH 11 now ^^ i think i have to add some buildings to it.

(you can simply build something similar for a TH10/11.)

Good Job!

Nice layout!

I'm going to use it for my farming base.

I might even try it for war too.

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTV

Looks like a very nice Base to me.

Since i am a TH 11 now ^^ i think i have to add some buildings to it.

(you can simply build something similar for a TH10/11.)

Good Job!

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Originally Posted by Aftershock416

Best design I've seen in a while, nice work!

That being said, air sweeper placement feels a little off to me, could you perhaps explain the reasoning behind their placement?

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Wow, thank you guys for replying :)

Aftershock, yes I accidentally forgot to change south sweeper direction, will amend it ASAP

Grizzly, that coming from a th11 is just awesome for me, but sadly, I am only a TH9, If you can submit a variation of FZ TH10, I would be grateful to you :)

As always, Thanks for replying as always :)
Kelp Commenting.

Also be sure to visit FZ 8:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ht=fordor+zwei

Thanks for the positive comment uncaged :)

Hope my layout serves you the best :)

Please share battle logs too, It will help me, If you can that is.

As always thank you for replying :)

Also be sure to vote in the poll :)

I don't get it ... buildings your layout and i got one wall left O.o

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Originally Posted by Pred10

I don't get it ... buildings your layout and i got one wall left O.o

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Umm that seems odd...

By the way if you have copied the only walls image, A wall is missing at south interscetion, I accidentally removed it will amend image soon.

Thanks for copying it, please post battle logs if possible.

thank you for replying as always :)

I have one wall left too! :confused:

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Originally Posted by AkiYouMe

Umm that seems odd...

By the way if you have copied the only walls image, A wall is missing at south interscetion, I accidentally removed it will amend image soon.

Thanks for copying it, please post battle logs if possible.

thank you for replying as always :)

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Well, nope i saw ur wall missing :), but it's not the one who left to me, i will use this base on an almost maxed th9 (my brother one) except X-bows, i will post some screenshot, the war start tomorrow

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Originally Posted by Pred10

Well, nope i saw ur wall missing :), but it's not the one who left to me, i will use this base on an almost maxed th9 (my brother one) except X-bows, i will post some screenshot, the war start tomorrow

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Thank you Pred,

I hope my base treats you well,

I will add all screen shots to 2nd reply.

As always, thanks for replying :)

Hello AkiYouMe!

Neat base you've got here. Like the overall thread presentation with mechanics well explained!

I'll tell you how i'll attack this base. Generally speaking, the hog pathing is quite decent. BUT, it'll break under a Superqueen together with a GiWi comp. Here's why:

http://i.imgur.com/sjXMhlP.jpg

1. Deploy giants on the northern part of the base (white arrows)

2. Drop a couple of wiz to take out the exterior buildings together with the mortar/cannon/archer tower circled in yellow in the north.

3. Drop wbs to break in, drop BK in as well from the north. The giants will path in towards the wizard tower and subsequently target the xbow and tesla by the DE. BK and wiz will head towards the TH and DE.

3a. Drop more giants on the northeastern side, along with more wiz to take out that area. Drop wbs to allow the giants to go in and target the AD.

4. Once the north eastern side is almost cleared, i'll drop the queen on the read arrow together with 4 healers. She'll tour around from the east, targeting 3 storages circled in red along with everything else.

5. By the time the queen reaches the south, the AD by the BK would start targeting the healers. But she'll still plough through the south with ease if i drop a rage there.

6. When she starts to turn towards the west, healers would most likely be dead but i might still manage to take out the western gold storage if i have a heal spell + royal cloak.

Overall a very good effort to start and it definitely looks good. More areas for improvement though. :)

Cheers!

-A

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Originally Posted by Avernicus

Hello AkiYouMe!

Neat base you've got here. Like the overall thread presentation with mechanics well explained!

I'll tell you how i'll attack this base. Generally speaking, the hog pathing is quite decent. BUT, it'll break under a Superqueen together with a GiWi comp. Here's why:

http://i.imgur.com/sjXMhlP.jpg

1. Deploy giants on the northern part of the base (white arrows)

2. Drop a couple of wiz to take out the exterior buildings together with the mortar/cannon/archer tower circled in yellow in the north.

3. Drop wbs to break in, drop BK in as well from the north. The giants will path in towards the wizard tower and subsequently target the xbow and tesla by the DE. BK and wiz will head towards the TH and DE.

3a. Drop more giants on the northeastern side, along with more wiz to take out that area. Drop wbs to allow the giants to go in and target the AD.

4. Once the north eastern side is almost cleared, i'll drop the queen on the read arrow together with 4 healers. She'll tour around from the east, targeting 3 storages circled in red along with everything else.

5. By the time the queen reaches the south, the AD by the BK would start targeting the healers. But she'll still plough through the south with ease if i drop a rage there.

6. When she starts to turn towards the west, healers would most likely be dead but i might still manage to take out the western gold storage if i have a heal spell + royal cloak.

Overall a very good effort to start and it definitely looks good. More areas for improvement though. :)

Cheers!

-A

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Thank you for replying,

Is that an algorithm to get loot, or 3 star the base by the way?

I'll post something interesting which I found on a replay, which might (10% chance) ruin your Gi start.

Plus you kind of neglected defending cc troops and heroes?

Th for your time :)

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Originally Posted by AkiYouMe

Thank you for replying,

Is that an algorithm to get loot, or 3 star the base by the way?

I'll post something interesting which I found on a replay, which might (10% chance) ruin your Gi start.

Plus you kind of neglected defending cc troops and heroes?

Th for your time :)

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To get DE and loot. I'm not really concerned with 3 starring the base if i see good amounts of DE/gold. :smirk:

Once i get what i want and i'll leave. xD

Also, i neglected defending cc troops because poison makes them irrelevant. With an attacking BK together with wizards, the defending AQ would die in a heartbeat and aggro everyone else straight into the core and once they are in, the defending BK will ALSO die in a heartbeat.

I've learnt not to rely on CC and heroes because i'd rather use them for attacking than defending. :smirk:

Avernicus, Whaddya say to this :

high res: http://i.imgur.com/UKbgdoR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UKbgdoR.jpg

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Originally Posted by Avernicus

To get DE and loot. I'm not really concerned with 3 starring the base if i see good amounts of DE/gold. :smirk:

Once i get what i want and i'll leave. xD

Also, i neglected defending cc troops because poison makes them irrelevant. With an attacking BK together with wizards, the defending AQ would die in a heartbeat and aggro everyone else straight into the core and once they are in, the defending BK will ALSO die in a heartbeat.

I've learnt not to rely on CC and heroes because i'd rather use them for attacking than defending. :smirk:

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Avernicus, wow *sigh of relief* I thought you were saying my layout would get 3 starred with those troops,

Please also note that when I use this as a farming base, I swap DE with CC,

Ty for your time :)

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Originally Posted by AkiYouMe

Avernicus, Whaddya say to this :

high res: http://i.imgur.com/UKbgdoR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UKbgdoR.jpg


Avernicus, wow *sigh of relief* I thought you were saying my layout would get 3 starred with those troops,

Please also note that when I use this as a farming base, I swap DE with CC,

Ty for your time :)

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♥♥♥♥ i'll find that base and show u how it's supposed to be done.

:smirk:

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Originally Posted by Avernicus

♥♥♥♥ i'll find that base and show u how it's supposed to be done.

:smirk:

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Lol

I haven't given me the review of how I like it as a anti 3 star base by the way, the main purpose of this base.

Ty for your time :)

Hi there!

Alittle strange to have a minime based off my name xD. This Not going to comment on this base in terms of farming since that's not my forte but if you talk about anti 3 in terms of war, tjis base does a good job, but still has alot of minor flaws.

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Originally Posted by AkiYouMe

Lol

I haven't given me the review of how I like it as a anti 3 star base by the way, the main purpose of this base.

Ty for your time :)

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Definitely anti-3 stars but u might wanna consider placing the small bombs outside with a tile away from the wall so that it prevents breaches.

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Originally Posted by akiyume

Hi there!

Alittle strange to have a minime based off my name xD. This Not going to comment on this base in terms of farming since that's not my forte but if you talk about anti 3 in terms of war, tjis base does a good job, but still has alot of minor flaws.

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*gasps*

I'm your biggest fan! You said its good! My motive in life is complete!

*back to professional mode*

I'm your biggest fan! You said its good! My motive in life is complete!

*oops, now ill be serious*

Yay, thank you for your valuable time, I would be obliged if you could help me fix the minor issues you find in the base, I would be grateful to you.

Ty.

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Originally Posted by Avernicus

Definitely anti-3 stars but u might wanna consider placing the small bombs outside with a tile away from the wall so that it prevents breaches.

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Hmm, thank you for your suggestion, ill take care of that, expect a new screenshot in a few hrs with corrected air sweeper direction and small bombs.

Ty for your time :)

For some reason I can't view the images! Same issue with the th8 version :(

I am TH8.5 and my DE storage got destroyed by GiBarch (got 50% 2 star on me).

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Originally Posted by berseke

For some reason I can't view the images! Same issue with the th8 version :(

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Originally Posted by Altezza

I am TH8.5 and my DE storage got destroyed by GiBarch (got 50% 2 star on me).

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Umm berseke, Im unaware of the problem your facing, as I'm using this page on Windows and Android and haven't faced the problem.
If the problem continues try clicking on the option
'View desktop site' in your mobile browser. This may also be a problem odd slow internet

Alteeza, sry but if ur using a farming base, then please switch de storage with cc.

Hope this helps :)

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Originally Posted by AkiYouMe

Umm berseke, Im unaware of the problem your facing, as I'm using this page on Windows and Android and haven't faced the problem.
If the problem continues try clicking on the option
'View desktop site' in your mobile browser. This may also be a problem odd slow internet

Alteeza, sry but if ur using a farming base, then please switch de storage with cc.

Hope this helps :)

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I did switch them. I'm using the TH8 base slightly modified to look like your TH9 base. I just got hit 45% by SuperQueen (lvl 16 with 8 healers) from left side.

Has pretty much all the components of a good base.

Nice base design. I'm going to become a th9 in a few days and I was looking for a th9 base. I'll try this base out. If you need defense logs, let me know snd I can get some for you.

I like it.... a lot.... Can't wait to try out!

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Originally Posted by cargovroomvroom

I like it.... a lot.... Can't wait to try out!

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Originally Posted by Matt038

Nice base design. I'm going to become a th9 in a few days and I was looking for a th9 base. I'll try this base out. If you need defense logs, let me know snd I can get some for you.

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Originally Posted by gregenstein

Has pretty much all the components of a good base.

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Thank you all of you for replying :)

Yes Matt I'd love some replays if possible :)

I'm going to publish all replays (of war attacks) at once, very soon.

Ty for your time.

Keep replying :)

Merry Christmas people :)

Merry Christmas in advance, dude. :)


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This base has done nothing for me. I've lost each and every time. Once, it was even 3 starred. I'm on Champion 3 and even poor GoWipes get 2 stars, the Dark Elixir and the town hall. Always.

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Originally Posted by ILLIDAN123

Merry Christmas in advance, dude. :)


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This base has done nothing for me. I've lost each and every time. Once, it was even 3 starred. I'm on Champion 3 and even poor GoWipes get 2 stars, the Dark Elixir and the town hall. Always.

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Whoa, If this base got 3 starred, then believe me ur a weak th9. (If the attacker was a th9)

Please share the replay.

And a GoWiPe is a 2 star strat. Plus conidering it to be an anti 3 star base, aren't u happy. This base is intended as an anti 3 star guys, not a farming one.

Tho with cc and de exchanged DE is considerably hard to get.

Releasing a new version today :)

Will adjust:
- Sweeper direction
- Small bomb placement
- New farming version

Awaiting more replies.

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Originally Posted by AkiYouMe

Whoa, If this base got 3 starred, then believe me ur a weak th9. (If the attacker was a th9)

Please share the replay.

And a GoWiPe is a 2 star strat. Plus conidering it to be an anti 3 star base, aren't u happy. This base is intended as an anti 3 star guys, not a farming one.

Tho with cc and de exchanged DE is considerably hard to get.

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I'm a TH9 with maxed out defenses, maxed out Heroes and troops. The guy that attacked me was a TH9, too. He used a GoWipe with CC max giants and spells. His pekkas survived and finished off the last star.

The replay is gone after yesterday's tiny maintenance upgrade. I'm still using the base and it's been two starred almost consistently with all the DE being stolen, too.



http://img202.imagevenue.com/loc6/th..._1_122_6lo.jpg http://img138.imagevenue.com/loc28/t...2_122_28lo.jpg

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Originally Posted by ILLIDAN123

I'm a TH9 with maxed out defenses, maxed out Heroes and troops. The guy that attacked me was a TH9, too. He used a GoWipe with CC max giants and spells. His pekkas survived and finished off the last star.

The replay is gone after yesterday's tiny maintenance upgrade. I'm still using the base and it's been two starred almost consistently with all the DE being stolen, too.



http://img202.imagevenue.com/loc6/th..._1_122_6lo.jpg http://img138.imagevenue.com/loc28/t...2_122_28lo.jpg

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Aww, Im sad to see that the farming usage of this base has been running useless.

But dont worry, An updated version is to be released in some hours having two layouts, a special farming one too!

The farming one will have a seperate compartment for DE still with a centralized cc.

Please can u test this base in war too?

Ty for your time.

Checkout the new updated version!

Anti 3 Star capabilities enhanced!

New DE Saver for farmers!

I do think it's a good design, but you can drop EQ around the left air sweeper to open up the AQ, 2 ADs, and the air sweeper. Then I think you could start from the south with hounds/loons to take out the second air sweeper and the other two ADs. It's not an easy attack, but I think it's doable.

That said, I have a my own design that has still never been 3 starred by a TH9, so I'm sticking with it. :)

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Originally Posted by fplant

I do think it's a good design, but you can drop EQ around the left air sweeper to open up the AQ, 2 ADs, and the air sweeper. Then I think you could start from the south with hounds/loons to take out the second air sweeper and the other two ADs. It's not an easy attack, but I think it's doable.

That said, I have a my own design that has still never been 3 starred by a TH9, so I'm sticking with it. :)

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Wait so your saying that Golems will go straight till the end of the base and will not get distracted by other defences?

Plus ur saying Golems have so much HP to take heroes, nearly every other defences and skellies damage?

Whoa what are ur Golems level 8 lol?

Plus 4 spells for ur EQ, 5 left, 2 Rage minimum for ur Golem fantasy, and 1 poison, is ur air journey gonna be spell less ?

Well good luck lol

Ty for replying as always :)

I made it a warbase....
but I exchange the AQ and the BK
and the CC with the DE storage

1st attack is one star..
here are the pics:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...15bc68c9c040a9

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6d&oe=5714601F

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...0a&oe=571C6130

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...941ff7637ba2b3

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...bfc10f064a116d

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...1b&oe=571F1451

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...34fa76cadfe939

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Originally Posted by fplant

That said, I have a my own design that has still never been 3 starred by a TH9, so I'm sticking with it. :)

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Could I please copy your base? I get 2 and 3 starred a whole lot. :(

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Please can u test this base in war too?

Ty for your time.

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This base can easily be two starred by a GoWiwi or GoWipe in wars.

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Originally Posted by Vernz

I made it a warbase....
but I exchange the AQ and the BK
and the CC with the DE storage

1st attack is one star..
here are the pics:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...15bc68c9c040a9

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6d&oe=5714601F

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...0a&oe=571C6130

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...941ff7637ba2b3

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...bfc10f064a116d

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...1b&oe=571F1451

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...34fa76cadfe939

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Ty for testing, please note that the adjustments u made are wrong.

The queen is supposed to remain in that compartment, it is a tested strategy known as 'Queens Island'

And don't exchange the cc, that is for farming only.

Ty for your time.

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Originally Posted by ILLIDAN123

Could I please copy your base? I get 2 and 3 starred a whole lot. :(

This base can easily be two starred by a GoWiwi or GoWipe in wars.

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Umm Illidan do you know what an anti 3 star base is?

And believe me it is near impossible for this base (with no adjustments), to get 3 starred in Clan war by another nearby TH9 , Not talking about multiplayer.

Ty.

Ty everyone for replying and helping me in developing this base.

It seems like the majority of people are satisfied, but according to the poll, 29% don't like it :(

I would love some constructive criticism for improving the layout.

Please keep replying and Ty for your time.

Hoping my base serves all the testers well :)

first attacked is in page 4...


2nd attack: 95%

here are the pics:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...82826153f1efbf


https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...e1&oe=56DD86A0

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...9f&oe=570C0E8C

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...cdd59b290502c7

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...05&oe=5710133D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...8da5969ae57356

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...9669db894a13dc

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6d&oe=571910FE

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...7b&oe=571026AD

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...921656daac4a96

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a6&oe=571ECD70



3rd attack: 91%

here are the pics:
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8d&oe=56D71B24

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...29&oe=56D764EA

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d4&oe=570B868F

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b0&oe=56D7E280

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...ba878d8b71df90

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...17&oe=570E1F88

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...92d12f08b2d4f6

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...81d39186a67911

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f4&oe=57141DAD

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...1a&oe=56DB84F4

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...0a&oe=5714635A

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...15&oe=571237D3

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Originally Posted by Vernz

first attacked is in page 4...


2nd attack: 95%

here are the pics:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...82826153f1efbf


https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...e1&oe=56DD86A0

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...9f&oe=570C0E8C

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...cdd59b290502c7

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...05&oe=5710133D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...8da5969ae57356

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...9669db894a13dc

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6d&oe=571910FE

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...7b&oe=571026AD

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...921656daac4a96

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a6&oe=571ECD70



3rd attack: 91%

here are the pics:
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8d&oe=56D71B24

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...29&oe=56D764EA

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d4&oe=570B868F

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b0&oe=56D7E280

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...ba878d8b71df90

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Ty vernz,

You are using the wrong layout, cc is supposed to be centralized in war mode. Ur image shows DE centralized.

Plus you ruined the queens island by removing the queen herself.

Please copy the version which I have just released (new scr shots) or amend the old base.

U shud be happy that you didn't get 3 *d with a farming layout.

Ty for your time.

Can be massively improved by creating two FAKE dgb spots such so.

http://prntscr.com/9g9rtf

Shifting core buildings can create two fake dgbs signified by the torch decorations without altering any other mechanics of the base too much.

(yeah i rushed on purpose, i cant be tripled by other th8s but i have a 45k weight ;))

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Originally Posted by Reblotic

Can be massively improved by creating two FAKE dgb spots such so.

http://prntscr.com/9g9rtf

Shifting core buildings can create two fake dgbs signified by the torch decorations without altering any other mechanics of the base too much.

(yeah i rushed on purpose, i cant be tripled by other th8s but i have a 45k weight ;))

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Okay,

So what does a fake dgb do?

It gives a possible dgb spot for an attacker to be aware of, This prevents the attacker from doing hog attacks.

But as my base is already anti-hog, I would rather want more people to attack with hogs.

So what you suggested is actually counter productive.

Ty for replying.

New Replays:

http://i.imgur.com/eAzdD3P.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zD22qem.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/I1sPrmK.jpg

Featuring,
A one star GoWiPe
A one star GoLavaLoon
A defended GoHoVa

2nd war
1st attack: 64% (2 star)

The lava hound in the CC did not come out until a ground unit attacked.

balloon + minions
I don't know why he used that combo without the lava when he has the lava.

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Originally Posted by Vernz

2nd war
1st attack: 64% (2 star)

The lava hound in the CC did not come out until a ground unit attacked.

balloon + minions
I don't know why he used that combo without the lava when he has the lava.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...01ea64b65dc18d

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Ty for replying vernz :)

Time to update ur layout though, I've updated screenshots.

So I hope you are satisfied with the layout :)

Ty for ur help.

Got 3 starred by SuperQueen and Gibarch mix lol.

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Ty for replying vernz :)

Time to update ur layout though, I've updated screenshots.

So I hope you are satisfied with the layout :)

Ty for ur help.

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I was using the original base in war 2

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Originally Posted by AkiYouMe

Okay,

So what does a fake dgb do?

It gives a possible dgb spot for an attacker to be aware of, This prevents the attacker from doing hog attacks.

But as my base is already anti-hog, I would rather want more people to attack with hogs.

So what you suggested is actually counter productive.

Ty for replying.

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your argument makes no sense lol

more fake dgb = higher chance of first attack guessing wrong on dgb

your base is not anti hog lol; theres no such thing as an anti hog base every base can be hogged

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Originally Posted by Reblotic

your argument makes no sense lol

more fake dgb = higher chance of first attack guessing wrong on dgb

your base is not anti hog lol; theres no such thing as an anti hog base every base can be hogged

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Bwahahaha no such thing as anti hog? Lol u really are a noob.

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Originally Posted by Altezza

Got 3 starred by SuperQueen and Gibarch mix lol.

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Lol share a replay dude. What ur say in is impossible.

Using this base for farming for two days. So far no one ever 3 starred me. Granted, they're mostly using Gibarch and at most they stole each 2 of my storage, with loss around 200k of elixir and gold. But they always got my DE each time and it was frustrating.

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Using this base for farming for two days. So far no one ever 3 starred me. Granted, they're mostly using Gibarch and at most they stole each 2 of my storage, with loss around 200k of elixir and gold. But they always got my DE each time and it was frustrating.

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I'm hoping your using the farming version as a farming base, the war version isn't too good for multiplayer.

Ty for your time.

Use it in war too :)

After using your TH8 layout, I got to TH9 and made this layout.

I built TH9 layout with all buildings and some gems.

After first war, I got attacked 6 times in one war, got 3 starred only by a TH10

Sadly i got kicked from the clan due to bad performance due tp hero up grading.

I also need a level 6 plus clan, I use GoHo and have maxed th8
And gemmed most TH9 things maxed xbows.

Keep up tue good work OP.

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Originally Posted by AkiYouMe

I'm hoping your using the farming version as a farming base, the war version isn't too good for multiplayer.

Ty for your time.

Use it in war too :)

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Yes I am using the farming base version, the attacker could get to my DE using gibarch, in Gold I.
I am mostly having TH8 defense and one lvl1 X-Bows though. The update happened and I couldn't save enough loot to upgrading the defense to TH9 level.

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Originally Posted by poke26

Yes I am using the farming base version, the attacker could get to my DE using gibarch, in Gold I.
I am mostly having TH8 defense and one lvl1 X-Bows though. The update happened and I couldn't save enough loot to upgrading the defense to TH9 level.

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Aww, I feel sad that my base isn't working for you :(

Don't worry tho, I'm near sure that it will be better after you get a little high level.

Also use the base in clan wars, I am guaranteeing a good performance in war.

Ty for your time.

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Originally Posted by PerryGreen

After using your TH8 layout, I got to TH9 and made this layout.

I built TH9 layout with all buildings and some gems.

After first war, I got attacked 6 times in one war, got 3 starred only by a TH10

Sadly i got kicked from the clan due to bad performance due tp hero up grading.

I also need a level 6 plus clan, I use GoHo and have maxed th8
And gemmed most TH9 things maxed xbows.

Keep up tue good work OP.

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Ty Perry, I'm happy my base is serving you well in war :)

Do you have some replays to share?

Happy gemming and happy Christmas in advance :)

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Lol share a replay dude. What ur say in is impossible.

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Here are some screenshots. Attacked me from the bottom

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5r5c2g7t.png


http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/...psvftfvqzh.png

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Here are some screenshots. Attacked me from the bottom

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5r5c2g7t.png


http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/...psvftfvqzh.png

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Umm Altezza, I that's not even my layout, It seems to me you've just add a random base, have you seen the screenshots?

That looks like a modification of FZ TH8, lol :P

At least copy the base correctly.

@AkiYouMe

does this farming base also work on low leagues like silver and gold?

because i only get attacked with giants etc.?
does it also work properly against giants and hogs?

Yeah, modification of the FZ 8 base mixed with FZ 9 since you don't have 8.5 base and I do not have Xbows or enough defenses to do FZ 9. You recommend I just copy the FZ 8 and randomly place the extra walls (since I'm TH9 with all traps/walls)?

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Yeah, modification of the FZ 8 base mixed with FZ 9 since you don't have 8.5 base and I do not have Xbows or enough defenses to do FZ 9. You recommend I just copy the FZ 8 and randomly place the extra walls (since I'm TH9 with all traps/walls)?

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Altezza for an 8.5, I say keep the FZ 9 Wall design, and replace xbow sp9ts with buder huts. Itll work perfect.

This will be a temporary solution by the way as I am releasing a new version (including an 8.5 version) in a week or so.

Thank you for your time.

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@AkiYouMe

does this farming base also work on low leagues like silver and gold?

because i only get attacked with giants etc.?
does it also work properly against giants and hogs?

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This base has awesome hog pathing, there is an image in 'How it works' section.

Hog pathing means hogs going in a predictable manner which enables defender to strategically place spring traps and double giant bombs.

Hog pathing is also applicable to giants.

Itll work beautiful in silver league.

Ty for replying.

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Originally Posted by AkiYouMe

This base has awesome hog pathing, there is an image in 'How it works' section.

Hog pathing means hogs going in a predictable manner which enables defender to strategically place spring traps and double giant bombs.

Hog pathing is also applicable to giants.

Itll work beautiful in silver league.

Ty for replying.

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okay thanks i see!

sorry got another question:

is the lower xbow not too far outside? is it possible to swap the lower xbow with the AD next to it?

It seems pretty solid as a farming base, but as a war base I'm pretty sure it can be hogged pretty easily by a decent attacker, at least with the current trap setup.
A kill squad with a jump on the cannon between 11 and 12 will easily kill the Queen and will almost surely take out the nearby sweeper and xbow thus nullifying both dgb spots. Then its just a matter of hog deployment. Perhaps tweak the dgb locations to be further away from the Queen...
Other than that the base should hold up decently against other attack strats. Farming setup looks pretty good though...

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okay thanks i see!

sorry got another question:

is the lower xbow not too far outside? is it possible to swap the lower xbow with the AD next to it?

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Hi faithless,

In the farming version you can, In the war version, strictly not!

Ty for replying.

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Originally Posted by Spitfire2nd

It seems pretty solid as a farming base, but as a war base I'm pretty sure it can be hogged pretty easily by a decent attacker, at least with the current trap setup.
A kill squad with a jump on the cannon between 11 and 12 will easily kill the Queen and will almost surely take out the nearby sweeper and xbow thus nullifying both dgb spots. Then its just a matter of hog deployment. Perhaps tweak the dgb locations to be further away from the Queen...
Other than that the base should hold up decently against other attack strats. Farming setup looks pretty good though...

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Hi spitfire,

The method that you are applying will not work, it is very similar to the one Avernicus suggested,

See this link, it applies to Golems as well:http://i.imgur.com/UKbgdoR.jpg

The other problem is that you are overestimating the power of your kill squad, what you said is not possible.

Even if you assume, that the KS works as you said, the back side of my base has 4 well placed spring traps which can easily half your hogs.

Ty for replying, test it in war too :)

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Originally Posted by AkiYouMe

Altezza for an 8.5, I say keep the FZ 9 Wall design, and replace xbow sp9ts with buder huts. Itll work perfect.

This will be a temporary solution by the way as I am releasing a new version (including an 8.5 version) in a week or so.

Thank you for your time.

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I will give it a try. Can't wait to see what you come up with next! :)

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I will give it a try. Can't wait to see what you come up with next! :)

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I hope I wont let you down :)

The war version for TH8.5 will come first, followed by a DE saver. (DE saver might take a bit time)

Expecting both bases to come out in the next 4 days.

Ty for your time.

PS: Will also post an updated version of FZ8 and FZ9 too :)

We were matched against a Vietnamese clan with anti 3 star bases. Basically, I already know it was going to be tough.

We have better defense since in us 1-5 has x-bows, whereas in them, only 1 and 2 has x-bows. However, their #1 has maxed defense. It would take me several months to have that kind of defense. I am just a month old at TH9.

They have better offense since their 1-4 has the army to 3 star my base.

However, I was still having faith on our bases. I have changed to anti 3 star since I used this base.

But, they are really good....

1st attack on my base was a gowipe, by their #1, from the north. I got 2-starred, 70% damage. I was happy about it.

2nd attack was a lavaloon from the SW. It 3-starred my base at 3 minutes and 10secs.
here are some pics

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@AkiYouMe

i use this TH9 base now (farming)

but i get destoyed really bad.. like also 100% defeat...

is this only because beside lvl 3 xbows, i only got TH def buildings at the moment?

will it get better when i got full th9 def buildings?

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Bwahahaha no such thing as anti hog? Lol u really are a noob.

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lol dumbass, any th9 can be hogged and any th9 can be lalooned, that just how easy th9 is now idiot

I have yet to use your updated base for farming, as I'm using a different base to get the Xmas Trees to spawn outside.

For the last two wars, I used your old base. Both times, I've been two starred. The first time I can't remember what they attacked with, but they attacked from the th side and got like high 50%. In the last war, I got hit with a GoWiWiPe for 86% from the North-East direction. Three golems, a pekka, enemy Queen and a couple wizards made it in. The rest of the army, golem, 2 witches, wizards and King went around.

thanks, replying to save so I can finish my base edit later

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I hope I wont let you down :)

The war version for TH8.5 will come first, followed by a DE saver. (DE saver might take a bit time)

Expecting both bases to come out in the next 4 days.

Ty for your time.

PS: Will also post an updated version of FZ8 and FZ9 too :)

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Hey AkiYouMe, thanks for the time you put into your posts!! Much appreciated. Any updates on a TH8.5 war version? Thanks.

Sorry for the delay, I had to leave unexpectedly for some emergency.

I have just completed the much awaited vTH8.5.

It aims at anti 3 star only, not recommended for farming use.

This also comes with some bad news though, Im in Year 12 and my exams will be up, So I have left the game for 3 months till April.

Thank you for all your help.

PS: the guy who said every TH9 base is hoggable, is an utter noob lol.

It is an awesome base, i told my friends to try it out as I had great results with the FZ Th8 version.

They tried it out in the war version and sure enough 90% of the attacks were 2 stars the th10 then came for the 3 stars.

In our most recent war one of the opponent had the same base all defenses maxed out.

Our TH9 with max th9 troops 3 starred the base using our clan's popular strat. GoWiWiHo (Golem with 2 witches and 4-5 wiz a cc golem and rest 21 hogs with Heroes, Spells were 3 heal and a jump.)

He dropped the golem and cc golem on the north arch and mortar side and a couple of wiz to take outside buildings( The building circled by Avernicus). The tesla popped up as you say but the attacker deployed a jump to keep the golems in order.

The Queen died along with the bk and xbow destroyed,th destroyed the air sweeper behind th destroyed along with the tesla.

The hogs then cleaned the rest of def. and no dgbs popped up.

It was a 3 star and I'm just saying that it is not anti-3 star a good attack can do 3 stars.

It's a decent war base, but it has 2 problems. Double giant bomb spots at obvious and you can eliminate pathing to both dgbs (maybe even trip them) with a 3 golem goho from the top.

you can get through the whole base trigger a dab and get the queen with just one jump or eq in in the middle in think this is really a great problem:unsure:

i meant dgb not dab

actually i think even not high level war clans could three star this base by gowipe or gowiwi because with an right eq spell you can get access to 6 compartments with just open one outside wall, so the base has after that only 5 separated compartments and this is even possible for gowipe/ gowiwi

_{my th 8.5 using this 8.5 got wiped out by mass th 9 dragon attack, he zapped right ad and then mass the dragon from bottom ad}

Aki, isnt the 3 o clock dgb on the 8.5 useless? The pathing is off.

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Aki, isnt the 3 o clock dgb on the 8.5 useless? The pathing is off.

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yes it really is

Hi fellas,

Sorry for late updates, as I have told previously I am facing my final exams and am trying to focus on it, and hence don't come online very often. I have deleted the game for two months (wish me luck please :P)

For people who say the base got 3 starred, please send screenshots (or just believe the fact that I landed on mars)

Sorry for the problem in v8.5 please shift tesla in Queens Island to the dgb position, I had that intended but accidentally didn't change it.

It will form an invisible dgb, one which isn't seen by attackers and is totally well pathed.

Thank you for your time and support.

No TH8.5 farming base yet :(

The key to three starring this base is govaho from the top (near the queen). Since the dgb spots are mediocre, it makes tripping them with valkyries and golems a breeze, letting hogs massacre the rest of the base. But other than that, this base performs quite well if you want to be in mediocre to hard wars, not for extreme wars in level 8 plus clans.

isnt the 3 o clock dgb pathing dead in the 8.5 version?

bwahahahaha the dgb in the 8.5 doesnt even work stop advertising this garbage

Both Dbgs are too close to AQ island, attacker can trip one set along with aq and cc kill. The pathing to the dbgs can be exploited and will result to both bombs not going off simultaneously.

I used to use this base and constantly get 3 starred.

Here's me, without a King, 3 starring someone else, who's using this base:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUgp39TqQdI

This base is terribe. The Th9 version has bad dgb spots that can be taken out with 4 hogs each.

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Originally Posted by ILLIDAN123

I used to use this base and constantly get 3 starred.

Here's me, without a King, 3 starring someone else, who's using this base:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUgp39TqQdI

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Lol that isnt my base

So nobody has any proof that this base has been three starred.

If yes then post an image,

Sorry for the error in TH8.5, DGBs in v9 work fine though.

I've been using this base in war for a while and it hasn't been 3 starred yet. We were in a war post update and we were outmatched bad, we had 1 th10, 10 th9s vs a th11, 5 th 10s, couple th9s. Anyway, I was expecting to get attacked by the 1 (th11 with lvl 26 King, lvl 28 Queen & lvl 13 Warden) but that didn't happened.

I got attacked 5 times and one guy got 94% which is the closest anyone has come to a 3 star. I have a lvl 16 King, lvl 20 Queen and all lvl 9 walls, except for 10 lvl 10 walls. I reversed your copy and then flipped it and I also swapped the queen around with the dark elixir storage.

http://imgur.com/ei3arMH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hKZ7gtA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/w0G3qTU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NdG5qyR.jpg

http://imgur.com/zYH1k0a.jpg

First time using the th8.5 version of this, and got wrecked by a pretty week level gowipe. Does anyone have a link to an 8.5 that works?
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