3-Star Gowipe Strategy

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Originally Posted by Maximilian99

I found a good and short explanation, for everyone who's too lazy to watch the video (not mine):
GoWiPe can be perfected, but there's a limit to what you can do with GoWiPe (inconsistent three stars at th8, rare three stars on th9+), if a three star attack is perfected, you can really do better. I see gowipe as the lazy two star strategy. There are better techniques but gowipe can be used at any skill level and it requires minimal to no planning. I would say it has its uses for trophies though.

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Hi Max, I watched the vid and it seemed like it was 6 minutes of a guy saying not to use Gowipe because he didn't think it was a good attack from the result of one war he was in...and I have to respectfully disagree with him on it not being a good attack. To boot, for every attack the video's author touts, you can find several examples of failures attributed to poor execution...hence why I wrote the article above. Too many Youtubers claim Gowipe is not a 3-star strategy and they are simply dead wrong. For example, my 2nd base that is a newer TH8 with lv1 Pekkas and Golems has been in three wars now and all three mirror attacks have been 3-stars using the methodology above.

Tyler made a good point above that is valid here....3-star strategies are dependent on defending base design and the attack should be tailored as such. For the times Ive used Gowipe and failed, was either because I should've known better and used a different attack strategy, or I fell victim to one of the three pitfalls mentioned in my article above. Gowipe may not work well for every single base, but I find that it is a heck of a lot more consistent due to its resistance to traps unlike its counterparts in Howi, mass drags, and loonion just to name a few.

Really nice effort on the thread, especially about pekka walk outside the base which is crucial for taking out the outside defenses, as gowipe tends to stop dead end at the core for only 2 stars, i was in a clan where they did this strategy style, but always save 2-3 wizzes for the back end and 2 wb.
But anyways even GoWiVa is a better strategy than GoWiPe, level 2 Valkyries are better than lvl 3 pekkas, especially when reaching the core.
But the most effective and efficient strategy is hogs no doubt. It works in any base style, be it anti-2 or anti-3 bases, hogs will wreck it

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Originally Posted by Melon00

Hi Max, I watched the vid and it seemed like it was 6 minutes of a guy saying not to use Gowipe because he didn't think it was a good attack from the result of one war he was in...and I have to respectfully disagree with him on it not being a good attack. To boot, for every attack the video's author touts, you can find several examples of failures attributed to poor execution...hence why I wrote the article above. Too many Youtubers claim Gowipe is not a 3-star strategy and they are simply dead wrong. For example, my 2nd base that is a newer TH8 with lv1 Pekkas and Golems has been in three wars now and all three mirror attacks have been 3-stars using the methodology above.

Tyler made a good point above that is valid here....3-star strategies are dependent on defending base design and the attack should be tailored as such. For the times Ive used Gowipe and failed, was either because I should've known better and used a different attack strategy, or I fell victim to one of the three pitfalls mentioned in my article above. Gowipe may not work well for every single base, but I find that it is a heck of a lot more consistent due to its resistance to traps unlike its counterparts in Howi, mass drags, and loonion just to name a few.

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Have you ever had war against a good war clan? There you get no where a three star with gowipe! And have you ever tried out a real three star strategy? Either Once and you failed because you had not enough practice, so you were too lazy and tried it never again or you don't know what golaloon, go hog, govahog, queen walk... is, am I right? The disadvantage is that you have no variability with go wipe you just do always the same and never try out something else.

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Originally Posted by Maximilian99

Have you ever had war against a good war clan? There you get no where a three star with gowipe! And have you ever tried out a real three star strategy? Either Once and you failed because you had not enough practice, so you were too lazy and tried it never again or you don't know what golaloon, go hog, govahog, queen walk... is, am I right? The disadvantage is that you have no variability with go wipe you just do always the same and never try out something else.

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Have you even played this game? I dont recall hounds and queen being available in th 8:facepalm:

Melon, congrats on the post man.
I just upgraded to th9, but I could contribute with one more troop composition for you.<br>I usually use Gowipe like this:
2 Golem
2 Pekka (mine are lvl3, but u can bring one in the CC)
6 Wall Breaker
6 Barbarian
18 Wizard + 6 in CC
3 Heal

I do change the approach a little bit according to the base design, but the main ideia is very similar to what was already in the main post.
I drop the Golems on a single side of the base a bit far from each other, get 1-2 wizs on each side of both golems to create a small funnel. After that I send the rest of my wizards as needed throughout the attack. I usually send the CC wizards into the gut of the base behind the BK, but I do wait a little bit to make sure they get inside and to help them avoid possible giant bombs. If I believe the pekkas would help out more going around and distracting some of the core's defenses or just cleaning up around the base with 2-3 wizs each I do so. I avoid using the heals on the golems, or even on the pekkas usually as I consider the wizards the real attack unit of Gowipe. So I use all 3 of my heals in a position to get as many wizards as possible, especially if they are unprotected.

The one thing I actually found that's a bit different from what was stated here was that I lure the CC defensive troops. I've seen 2 effective ways to get rid of anything on TH8 (especially after the update):

1. You can use 1 or 2 poisons (one in your CC) to kill whatever is inside.
Now, I don't really know the level of the poisons to kill each level of dragons, but I've seen it work most of the time, even with one lvl1 and a lvl2 poisons (that should be easy to have if you have the clan perk). A common mistake is to drop both poisons at the same time. They DO NOT stack. You need to put one poison and wait a while so that the other poison will have it's effect after the first one wears out. This does take a lot of time, and is pretty damn boring ^^

2. This one is my favorite for dragons. I bring them to the corner or to a unprotected area on the same side I'll start my attack. I distract them with 1 barbarian and send 3 wizards right behind it. Just before the dragon actually hits the barb and kills it, I drop another barb, alone. If you practice enough you won't even use the poison spell for that and will get rid of the dragon with 3 wizs and 4-5 barbs and ALL 3 wizs will still be alive and help with your funnel.


This post is already very long, but I have one last thing to say. By the end of TH8 the attack one was using the most was GoHo. I have 2 reasons for that. The 1st is cause I believe it works for a greater variety of bases, that may be because it's stronger, or cause people know Gowipe better and prefer designs against Gowipe and mass dragons and GoHo can exploit that. The 2nd is that I really didn't want to use Gowipe when I got to TH9. On TH9 everything conspires against Gowipe. "You get a jump spell", but there are a lot more walls. "You can upgrade your golems to lv4", but the Queen, and the extra defenses will wreck them. Anyway, in my clan we have an almost maxed TH9, he's in almost every war and uses Gowipe. I only saw a 3 star on a TH9 from him once. So I decided to practice at least GoHo as a 3 star attack on my TH8 so I would stand a chance against TH9s once I upgraded.

On my TH9 I do believe Gowipe is a lot "safer" (if you don't get the 3 stars, you will probably get the 2 anyway), but I have 3 stared TH9s more often then I've seen the TH9s from my clan already with GoHo. And all I got now is the 4th spell and the lvl5 Queen.



Just to sum it up. I do believe Gowipe is a good strategy for TH8s. But it is overrated on TH9 and above. GoHo is the only TH9 strategy that can be practiced in TH8 and it is a lot harder to pull off on TH9, so it might be a good idea to practice it before you upgrade.

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Originally Posted by giovcavalc

Melon, congrats on the post man.
I just upgraded to th9, but I could contribute with one more troop composition for you.<br>I usually use Gowipe like this:
2 Golem
2 Pekka (mine are lvl3, but u can bring one in the CC)
6 Wall Breaker
6 Barbarian
18 Wizard + 6 in CC
3 Heal

I do change the approach a little bit according to the base design, but the main ideia is very similar to what was already in the main post.
I drop the Golems on a single side of the base a bit far from each other, get 1-2 wizs on each side of both golems to create a small funnel. After that I send the rest of my wizards as needed throughout the attack. I usually send the CC wizards into the gut of the base behind the BK, but I do wait a little bit to make sure they get inside and to help them avoid possible giant bombs. If I believe the pekkas would help out more going around and distracting some of the core's defenses or just cleaning up around the base with 2-3 wizs each I do so. I avoid using the heals on the golems, or even on the pekkas usually as I consider the wizards the real attack unit of Gowipe. So I use all 3 of my heals in a position to get as many wizards as possible, especially if they are unprotected.

The one thing I actually found that's a bit different from what was stated here was that I lure the CC defensive troops. I've seen 2 effective ways to get rid of anything on TH8 (especially after the update):

1. You can use 1 or 2 poisons (one in your CC) to kill whatever is inside.
Now, I don't really know the level of the poisons to kill each level of dragons, but I've seen it work most of the time, even with one lvl1 and a lvl2 poisons (that should be easy to have if you have the clan perk). A common mistake is to drop both poisons at the same time. They DO NOT stack. You need to put one poison and wait a while so that the other poison will have it's effect after the first one wears out. This does take a lot of time, and is pretty damn boring ^^

2. This one is my favorite for dragons. I bring them to the corner or to a unprotected area on the same side I'll start my attack. I distract them with 1 barbarian and send 3 wizards right behind it. Just before the dragon actually hits the barb and kills it, I drop another barb, alone. If you practice enough you won't even use the poison spell for that and will get rid of the dragon with 3 wizs and 4-5 barbs and ALL 3 wizs will still be alive and help with your funnel.


This post is already very long, but I have one last thing to say. By the end of TH8 the attack one was using the most was GoHo. I have 2 reasons for that. The 1st is cause I believe it works for a greater variety of bases, that may be because it's stronger, or cause people know Gowipe better and prefer designs against Gowipe and mass dragons and GoHo can exploit that. The 2nd is that I really didn't want to use Gowipe when I got to TH9. On TH9 everything conspires against Gowipe. "You get a jump spell", but there are a lot more walls. "You can upgrade your golems to lv4", but the Queen, and the extra defenses will wreck them. Anyway, in my clan we have an almost maxed TH9, he's in almost every war and uses Gowipe. I only saw a 3 star on a TH9 from him once. So I decided to practice at least GoHo as a 3 star attack on my TH8 so I would stand a chance against TH9s once I upgraded.

On my TH9 I do believe Gowipe is a lot "safer" (if you don't get the 3 stars, you will probably get the 2 anyway), but I have 3 stared TH9s more often then I've seen the TH9s from my clan already with GoHo. And all I got now is the 4th spell and the lvl5 Queen.



Just to sum it up. I do believe Gowipe is a good strategy for TH8s. But it is overrated on TH9 and above. GoHo is the only TH9 strategy that can be practiced in TH8 and it is a lot harder to pull off on TH9, so it might be a good idea to practice it before you upgrade.

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I agree but I don't think that gowipe is a good strategy for th8;)

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Originally Posted by Maximilian99

Have you ever had war against a good war clan? There you get no where a three star with gowipe! And have you ever tried out a real three star strategy? Either Once and you failed because you had not enough practice, so you were too lazy and tried it never again or you don't know what golaloon, go hog, govahog, queen walk... is, am I right? The disadvantage is that you have no variability with go wipe you just do always the same and never try out something else.

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As anonymous said below....most of those troops are not available at th8, so your point is moot there. Like I said, your previous vid provided no real advice which was disappointing as we should all be helping each other get better, not glorifying our egos.

.....and yes, as the leader of a lv5 clan, we have had many "real" wars against clans as high ad lv8, which is really irrelevant as Supercell pits you against comperable opponents no matter what your clan level is.

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Originally Posted by giovcavalc

Melon, congrats on the post man.
I just upgraded to th9, but I could contribute with one more troop composition for you.<br>I usually use Gowipe like this:
2 Golem
2 Pekka (mine are lvl3, but u can bring one in the CC)
6 Wall Breaker
6 Barbarian
18 Wizard + 6 in CC
3 Heal

I do change the approach a little bit according to the base design, but the main ideia is very similar to what was already in the main post.
I drop the Golems on a single side of the base a bit far from each other, get 1-2 wizs on each side of both golems to create a small funnel. After that I send the rest of my wizards as needed throughout the attack. I usually send the CC wizards into the gut of the base behind the BK, but I do wait a little bit to make sure they get inside and to help them avoid possible giant bombs. If I believe the pekkas would help out more going around and distracting some of the core's defenses or just cleaning up around the base with 2-3 wizs each I do so. I avoid using the heals on the golems, or even on the pekkas usually as I consider the wizards the real attack unit of Gowipe. So I use all 3 of my heals in a position to get as many wizards as possible, especially if they are unprotected.

The one thing I actually found that's a bit different from what was stated here was that I lure the CC defensive troops. I've seen 2 effective ways to get rid of anything on TH8 (especially after the update):

1. You can use 1 or 2 poisons (one in your CC) to kill whatever is inside.
Now, I don't really know the level of the poisons to kill each level of dragons, but I've seen it work most of the time, even with one lvl1 and a lvl2 poisons (that should be easy to have if you have the clan perk). A common mistake is to drop both poisons at the same time. They DO NOT stack. You need to put one poison and wait a while so that the other poison will have it's effect after the first one wears out. This does take a lot of time, and is pretty damn boring ^^

2. This one is my favorite for dragons. I bring them to the corner or to a unprotected area on the same side I'll start my attack. I distract them with 1 barbarian and send 3 wizards right behind it. Just before the dragon actually hits the barb and kills it, I drop another barb, alone. If you practice enough you won't even use the poison spell for that and will get rid of the dragon with 3 wizs and 4-5 barbs and ALL 3 wizs will still be alive and help with your funnel.


This post is already very long, but I have one last thing to say. By the end of TH8 the attack one was using the most was GoHo. I have 2 reasons for that. The 1st is cause I believe it works for a greater variety of bases, that may be because it's stronger, or cause people know Gowipe better and prefer designs against Gowipe and mass dragons and GoHo can exploit that. The 2nd is that I really didn't want to use Gowipe when I got to TH9. On TH9 everything conspires against Gowipe. "You get a jump spell", but there are a lot more walls. "You can upgrade your golems to lv4", but the Queen, and the extra defenses will wreck them. Anyway, in my clan we have an almost maxed TH9, he's in almost every war and uses Gowipe. I only saw a 3 star on a TH9 from him once. So I decided to practice at least GoHo as a 3 star attack on my TH8 so I would stand a chance against TH9s once I upgraded.

On my TH9 I do believe Gowipe is a lot "safer" (if you don't get the 3 stars, you will probably get the 2 anyway), but I have 3 stared TH9s more often then I've seen the TH9s from my clan already with GoHo. And all I got now is the 4th spell and the lvl5 Queen.



Just to sum it up. I do believe Gowipe is a good strategy for TH8s. But it is overrated on TH9 and above. GoHo is the only TH9 strategy that can be practiced in TH8 and it is a lot harder to pull off on TH9, so it might be a good idea to practice it before you upgrade.

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Great read man, thanks! I always thought drags favored higher HP troops, but you are saying they will target barbs over wiz, huh? Yea, now with the update, it changes things a bit with the double poison....and yes you are 100% correct that the poisons dont work concurrently, I've seen that same mistake made more than a few times. HAHA! I will also try the funnelling method you mention with your gowipe troop recommendation. Thats a good idea.

Thanks for bringing another attack method to my attention....I will give that GoHo a shot. Do you have any good guides on this attack method I can refer to?

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Originally Posted by anonymous1992

Really nice effort on the thread, especially about pekka walk outside the base which is crucial for taking out the outside defenses, as gowipe tends to stop dead end at the core for only 2 stars, i was in a clan where they did this strategy style, but always save 2-3 wizzes for the back end and 2 wb.
But anyways even GoWiVa is a better strategy than GoWiPe, level 2 Valkyries are better than lvl 3 pekkas, especially when reaching the core.
But the most effective and efficient strategy is hogs no doubt. It works in any base style, be it anti-2 or anti-3 bases, hogs will wreck it

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Thanks for the post! I am quite intrigued by replacing pekkas with valks im going to give that one a shot. I agree hogs are undeniably the best th8 war troop as I use them frequently. My intention with this article was to squash all the videos and articles online denying Gowipe as a 3 star strategy, not necessarily to suggest Gowipe as the best th8 war troop composition. Thanks again for the reply.

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Originally Posted by Melon00

Thanks for the post! I am quite intrigued by replacing pekkas with valks im going to give that one a shot. I agree hogs are undeniably the best th8 war troop as I use them frequently. My intention with this article was to squash all the videos and articles online denying Gowipe as a 3 star strategy, not necessarily to suggest Gowipe as the best th8 war troop composition. Thanks again for the reply.

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You don't just "replace pekkas with valks", it does change the dynamics a lot. It's just a stronger attack to use an attack with valks instead of pekkas.

And even if bad bases can be gowiped, it's still the definition of the two star strategy.