First, I'm not giving into the hype, I will not go to TH11.
Second, I will leave exactly 30% of my buildings outside my walls in defiance of this communist overlord.
Take my collectors and I'll will take my shield.
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First, I'm not giving into the hype, I will not go to TH11.
Second, I will leave exactly 30% of my buildings outside my walls in defiance of this communist overlord.
Take my collectors and I'll will take my shield.
Sweet, I will drop my queen for your collectors and you still won't get a shield since the attack has to use 1/3 of your army comp total. (at least I think I have that right)
Plot twist for op!Quote:
Originally Posted by QuackAttackGoDucks
And you will just lose trophies.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuackAttackGoDucks
Trophies are pointless, unless you are a pusher or get demolished by th11s now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikhyath
Doesn't 30% grant me a win? So I get 30%, don't use 1/3, I get win, he gets loss on everything. Maybe I'm looking at all this from the wrong point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikhyath
No its does not grant you a win .. you still need to get one star being the th or 50%Quote:
Originally Posted by QuackAttackGoDucks
uses queen to 30% the outside buildings, let queen to continue to destroy other buildings, use ability and then they get 50% from the queenQuote:
Originally Posted by QuackAttackGoDucks
Sweet, then I will drop some barch and get the 50 once I jot down specific TH army comp percentages and whatnot. Easy peasy, see you all soon. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by kcresj
Thats not how maths work .. thats not how any of this work .. e.eQuote:
Originally Posted by jarvee
You have the right idea. What you need is a base that can be attacked for 50% by a barch army. It should take 100% of a TH8 or TH9 barch army and maybe a bit less of a TH10 or TH11 barch army. Design your base so you give up as little loot as possible (you will probably have to let them have your collectors) but make it so that they won't next past your base because they see that their barch army will be able to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradox11
I suspect this type of base will be common especially in higher leagues. If you are in champs 3 or higher, any base you can beat is worth attacking with a barch army even if it has next to no loot (since the army was cheap and quick and the league bonus is high). We should start seeing some popular base styles that encourage the first person to see your base to attack it no matter how weak their army is. Just make sure you are in a high enough league that people will spend an army just for a league bonus.
heres my attempt at getting cheaper shield https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d8&oe=566958C9
its been holding up pretty good and people will get relatively similar amount of loot as they are getting with full loot bonus (30% destruction loot bonus + my th loot) many have been going full on attempts to get my town hall, some tried to use less than 110 troops (and have failed at it, might have to adjust some traps for the extremely strong hero attackers) its been holding up pretty well as in they only get the th and sometimes the vaults behind the th, but thats relatively what i lose from a full on gowipe and that hasnt happened often
u must have a low queen if she cant get 20% additional destruction after sniping 30% of undefended buildingsQuote:
Originally Posted by kcresj
It's not bad, but I would consider a base (like what you probably used when you were TH7 and TH8) that has a large number of buildings outside the walls (but right next to walls) including some if not all of your collectors. Then people can drop barch all around your base and peck off those buildings while your defenses peck off their barbs and archers. As long as your league is high, it is worth attacking any base that can be defeated with a barch army and if that base style becomes popular enough (because most of us farmer switch our base to that instead of having the town hall in the corner) we should be able to protect all of our storages and our town hall while still getting a quick shield.Quote:
Originally Posted by jarvee
Exactly. Full max GoWipes barely 50% me since I'm a MaxTH10 with magma walls. I'll take my trophies and my shield you can have the collectors. Haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by kcresj
You'll be forced to spend your max army and still not 50% me.
Exactly! - I have a base that works very well for this purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by erethizon
I will be following along with all the people trying to keep 30% percent outside. It sounds like the best post-update strategy I have heard of so far.
I think the mercy rule only applies after three attacks though. If thats the case and the th10 carries 20% of the loot total then whats the advantage?
Honestly, if I saw a base like that I'd go through the backdoor.
Ditto!Quote:
Originally Posted by Josah
Everyone post a picture of proposed base ideas to foul up their shield plans the biggest advantage will be AI troop mis-direction
nvm I was wrong not sure where I got that info from
Guys if u are trophy pushers just still keep ur TH outside. After 3 attacks, you get a shield no matter what. You just lose 3X more trophies before getting shield.
So your going to give up the loot in your th 3times to get a shield? very generous of youQuote:
Originally Posted by Hammad80
No you don't. 3 attacks will give you a PBT reset with no VG, not a shield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammad80
Piff!! Trophys are worthless. Fine with me :))Quote:
Originally Posted by OziBatla
I was talking about loot not trophy's, your th is now worth 2 storages and contains part of your de too, you will be broke in no time with that tactic..Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradox11
Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by OziBatla
TH will stay inside then, I'll stick with the OP at 30% outside.
I would really want to see you use a lv 40 queen to get 20% more AFTER get 30% from other building outside :smirk::smirk: Yeah, I would love to see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jarvee
Please, let people put their TH outside. I really need the snipe.Quote:
Originally Posted by themariofan
I actually did calculation. If you have max storage and go to sleep with TH outside, you will wake up loosing 3m2 gold, 3m2 elixir, and 26k DE as a TH10. It musts be sweet :x
I do believe you are correct. A limited number of troops must be deployed to win a shield. This is because some people would throw 20 archers on a TH or a little section of the base to get just a little loot and a star. This requirement will stop that and force a more competitive attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuackAttackGoDucks
To those talking about 30% left outside, great. Easy pickings. 1 or 2 wiz on that section, and the rest of my army can focus on your defenses. Making it too easy sometimes :) How often have you lost troops who hit the DE drill instead of the tesla tower that was closer?
It is what, 14 collectors mines and drills at TH9, 17 at TH10? I don't think that is 30%
Roughly 75-85 structures between th9 and 10. You have to lose at minimum 22 buildings at TH9.
If 2 wiz can do that on a max th9, that is 212 troops plus CC and heroes with all 4 spells and a de spell I can use to attack your defenses. It will be a relatively easy 3 star. Walls wont be much of a problem with 2 or 3 jump spells.
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Originally Posted by Paradox11
That's what everybody else with their TH inside already does, before the update.
I love the sentiment but I think in this case it is more of a capitalistic exploitation situation lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradox11
The right answer is there.
No point in trying to play the system, that's why they made it multi faceted.
Easy to barch a win, give up 1-2 storages max for a max th10. Easy.
Should be a shield and minimal loot loss every time.
I saw a base that was testing this last night- was nexting and came across a TH10 fairly maxed out. It was the southern teaser base layout, but all collectors, bldgs. and junk on the south area. All stacked up together. For anyone not concerned about trophies, it was an easy get with less than 30% of troops.
If you wanted to really hit the base, you could do so from the top or sides- since there wasn't much trash in the way to slow you down.
I wouldnt do it anyways lol, 30% does not grant me a win, so i get no trophies, no league bonus, no nothing, why would i attack your collectors?Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradox11
Lolwhut? o.o
This will not work as you have to place 1/3 of your army
but the league bonus being staggard hurts that idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by erethizon
You don't build a Barch base to stop the guy who is tooling around with a strong army from going for your Full storage's. Or that guy using his Super Queen attack.
Your building that Easy Barch base (storages all outside hugging the walls covered by archer towers and cannons) to give those guys who are 1 or 2 Town Halls below you or the the guy searching with a ♥♥♥♥ army A bunch of incentive to take your base. If it works 50 to 75% of the time that's a win.
I farmed all last night, came across 38 snipe bases. Only 3 of them had enough loot that would make me waste a decent army on. I'm more afraid of nexting 300 times to find a decent base to attack. I will have to start taking that cheap army and barch empty bases for the League Bonus.
Think about it, as more and more of these snipe bases come out from under those shields and change over there design...there are going to be a whole lot of searching going on. Maybe 80% of attacks were snipes, but I doubt 10% of those snipe bases had the loot to make you want to waste an army on if your not in a Higher League.