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My title is my question and feature change request. My opinion is no.. poison should not kill skeletons. Reason being, how do you poison something thats already dead. Also, poison needs a counter part. It even kills Lv 6 giants now. As if they don't lack enough to defend a base. yes it kills time and I know I have the same advantage with the use of poison, Something needs to resist poison. It should be skeletons, like I said...their already dead.
I see the logic behind this, and agree with it, but I think it may make CC witches too OP :p
Thanks, but witches aren't cheep just to see slaughtered by one Lv one poison. Your options for war def are drags pekka golems or hounds.everything else dies by poison. Which also is a slow spell my opinion is poison is op....and now worse than before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orion328
You can always fill just a few war CCs with all archers or something to throw attackers off. Not just limited to those big units every time.
This would make hogs a little too difficult so I don't think this will happen, sorry.
Make your CC unlurable. Done. No more dead wiz. What do you mean by "counter part"? And why skellies especially?Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelgentry271
Makes witches semi-viable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shards
You are missing one crucial piece of information. The poison spell is not just poison, it is a poison SPELL. As in, magic. The poison spell does not kill troops by poisoning their bodies, but rather by poisoning their soul. (Aura, energy, metaphysical presence, you get it.) The reason bigger troops can take more damage from the poison spell is that the souls of troops are relative to their hit points. ie, bigger and denser body=bigger and denser soul. *Drops mic*
They could poison the witch itselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Orion328
Not everything has to make sense.
Here is my logic:
Spells are magic, and it isn't just bottle of poison, but a bottle of brewed Dark Elixir. Magic in its way, it can kill anything that is alive an an enemy to the chief wielding it.
In the Walking Dead, how do you kill something that is already dead?
I think it should because poison corrodes the skeleton's bones over time, "killing" it. :P
Not under thought.... ie yes you can poison and slow the witch and kill her she has a soul. As does every troop but a skeleton. skellies have no soul . their all ready dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockTheRock
I think we all would like to see the poison spell explained as you have friend. So pick the mic back up. The inscription i have in the game says none of those thing about attacking souls. I am sugesting skellies have no soul theirfore should not be hurt by poison spell i know its a spell.....
you show me a base where I CAN'T pull troops. In war equal ish(stronger or weaker..) to my base. I will scout that base for as long as it takes a pick it apart square by square . It may not be as no easy pull because it's spread so much but those bases you attack differently. they are easier.
And as for counter part I mean something needs to withstand poison/slow spells POISON AND SLOW. Not just poison...not just slow..... poisonslow spells. They are OP. I know I'm just a mouse amongst mountains but I know others feel the same way about poison slow spells. Make them two slots at least since its two spells...like rage. Rage is two slots and that is just fine. I think super cell EXTREMELY underestimated slow....by it's self. Period
That would mean poison is acid it could just be acid then and I'd shut up.lolQuote:
Originally Posted by XenonC0C18
This thread I'd run into..."it's a spell." I'm not trying to be mean or harsh. I know it is a spell.
.That doesn't make it any less OP
To be completely honest I use it too and I get the advantage from it's use. But their is no thrill in cc troops anymore for def.
If I can scout your base... I can pull your troops!
I mean it's like a trap not troops from the person's cc like basically saying if you put a rage spell down it would set off all the traps so NO
I'm not sure I following you here... but I'm guessing everyone else agrees that poison spells still slow and kill everything that comes out of the cc.!? And our answer be to build a base where troop pull is "not possibleOK. (-‿◦)...ok sounds good to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by KTsoccer
I think that skeletons,wall breakers,witches and balloons should be resistant to poison spell ....
Let's have a sip of Hydrochloric Acid, we won't die for sure right?Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelgentry271
Hydrochloric Acid is poisonous and corrosive. ;)
Let's place some bones in a vat of HCl, over time it will dissolve.
Poison Spell should kill skellys.
Oh wait ... now it's not a spell? Its hydrochloric acid...ahhh! I was confused .Thanks for clearing that up for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by XenonC0C18
Seriously tho, play any mid evil rpg and use a poison SPELL on a skeleton....or anything undead for that matter. Its effect is null. . I know what I'm talking about guys. I am quite a gamer nerd.
Thanks for the support! But you too have a valid point. if it's slow and poison then slow it is, but not poison dmg also.Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroClash
Skeletons should be immortal, unless the whole of its body is vapourized. :smirk:Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelgentry271
The Poison Spell should still have an effect on all troops because of its purpose. If this feature were to be added, everyone's going to request it to not work on troops like the Golem or Lava Hound because they're made of rocks. :P
(The HCl thing was an example)
Everything that breathes should be effected by poison. Thats the reality behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by XenonC0C18
I have a valid point and everyone that believes one way or the other should stand for what they believe.
If, undead were to be risen from the dead... poison spells should do them no harm. However heal spells should. Were discussing a fantasy relm where these things exist. That relm, I am very filimiar with.
SC is not going to hear the voice of only a few. But maybe they will consider the voice of many. And two I'm trying to bring versatility back to the clan castle. What "Harm" can be done in this? .. I'm trying to make it funner than drag, golems, pekka, or hound. What about cc 15’s or how bout. dragon, dragon, dragon, dragon.
There is already versatility. Before there were only Wizards, Archers and Witches in the Clan Castle. Since the Poison Spell was introduced, Dragons, Valkyries and the like became more popular! If this was added, the CC troop combos that was used before the poison spell would come back and it'll be as if the poison spell was never added in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelgentry271
Idk what clash of clans your playing my friend. But slow poison...kills everything but a dragon, a pekka, a golem, or a lava hound. Poison kills every other troop including Max Lv giants and max Lv valkyrie and Max Lv hogs and Max Lv wizards and Max Lv balloons..... need I continue. It is clear as day that poison is OP! If it we're just poison or just slow it would be right. But combining two spells and calling it the poison spell is incorrect. Any game that uses time magic does not combine the two. Maybe they thought it be a good idea for coc to be better or different. But this spell needs to be nerfed! It is ruining a fun part of the game. To be different. But no. We war often and it is now drag after drag after drag. Why do I have to beat this horse into obliritation for it to be seen. Come on guys. I got one fella who agrees.Quote:
Originally Posted by XenonC0C18
Skellies don't get hurt by poison but slow...sure. not poison slow not both but one. I'm sorry if I'm stepping on any toes up in the SC headquarters but I'm right on. Were talking about one troop here that doesn't die by slow poison..............one
I never use a poison spell anymore. I'd rather take a haste and be able to draw the castle out and use a KS and haste to take them out faster. Poison takes longer than a draw and KS IMHO.
Thats cool too I'm a huge fan of haste. I have tactics of combining multiple hastes with some of my loadouts too: )Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeTheGrate
But just so you know, 30sec is about to be added to our attack clock. How does this make you feel about poison and slow in it's current state.
Why balloons? They have pretty high HP.Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroClash
OP just wants realism in the game. Ohh skeletons shouldnt die from poison spells because theyre already dead, he's trying to bring DOTA, LOL and other RPG logic to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radiating
Seriously, Poison Spells don't need anymore editing because it's not a "poof it's gone" spell as much as it was before. Sure it can destroy troops easily, but it costs a bit of your raid time and can possibly ruin a 3★...
They aren't completely dead. I know the title does call them dead, but as proven by the doctor at the end of season 1, part of their brains are alive, controlling their hunger. Plus, The Walking Dead and Clash of Clans are completely different.Quote:
Originally Posted by XenonC0C18
Clash of Clans? Realistic? LOL!
Poison spell is part magic damage part poison damage. Well ok, since skeletons are dead, take away the poison damage. But with ther low hp this makes 0 difference
If I was in your clan and we went to war my cc holds 30 troops. What do you give me to defend my base?
I would give the troops that you requested in your war clan castle troop request area.Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelgentry271
those poison spell actually contains ....alien termite bugs which eat up the skeleton....
hope it helps:p:p:p
You know what I'm gonna say next. . . What if I don't have a set troop request and it say the default term of " I need reinforcement troops." Then what would you do? And please don't say you wouldn't give me any troops or something in regards to that. As I am asking you a serious question.Quote:
Originally Posted by XenonC0C18
This is funny :) But I am trying to be serious if you read up on this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robindevil
War cc troops use to contain strategy before the poison spell was introduced,
and then amplified. .. now it 90% dragons.
Not very strategic any more. Strategy = fun, No strategy = no fun... witches and our friend earlier implyed balloons and breakers (which is is right btw) would give us something more to work with again.
What's the point, before it used to be 99% Wizards, Witches and Archers. Adding this means that 99% Witches will be in the cc again.Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelgentry271
I'll quote ya, "Strategy = Fun" "No strategy = no fun"
Poison spell should kill any sort of thing , after all that's the spell.
Although i would like to see some changes to the troops inside the spell !
I agree, Spells should not be changed. They are good richt nowQuote:
Originally Posted by xSnippy
They would I think. Just not the skeletons.... am I right?Quote:
Originally Posted by RockTheRock
Yes. Like I mentioned everything that breathes should still be killed by the poison. Option for any troop is available and dragons are about the best option. But it's expected to encounter dragons defending a base every time. If poison ddnt kill skellies the witch could be another good option. Using all archers will simply be killed off by poison like every other troop. Pekka, golems, and hounds can't attack air and neither can skellies. Only problem eith them is their easily overwhelmed in the poison ring and wizard make short work of anything. I understand this would make hogs harder still to overwhelm a base but I'm just trying to imply that a bit of diversity between war cc would be good. Giants are OK at cc withstanding the poison spell now as are valkyrie. And the poison spell, be it stay the same, can still slow everything so in turn that's still an advantage. and quite a good one I might add, for hog raids if you can out run the skellies.Quote:
Originally Posted by cargovroomvroom
Hmm, let's make it that Heal Spells instantly kill dead troops because well, they're already dead!
Everyone opposes your idea because CC variety would be dead if this was added.
Yepp heal would kill skellies... and no not everyone opposes the idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by XenonC0C18