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November 28th, 2015
Darktitan

Moving Holiday Obstacles. [Petition]

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** If you support this idea please write /signed**

I have been playing this great game since May 2013 and it's one that I always come back to. In that time I've received many special holiday obstacles which I love. I got the 2013 Christmas tree when I was a TH8 and was disappointed that they never spawned on the edge of my base but I worked around them. They were annoying where they were but it was manageable in most cases.

Now that Supercell has announced the release of TH11, they also feel as if the map size will need to be larger as well (makes sense most TH10 bases take up almost the entire map as it is). I'm very happy they decided to have this expansion. However, the issue is that my Christmas trees that I've been cultivating since 2013 will most definitely be getting in the way of building half way decent trophy bases. I don't want to cut them down seeing as how they show my long time dedication to the game. I also cannot easily progress to TH11 and continue my base designing passion if my Christmas trees are getting in the way of these designs.

Just because my tree is one tile off does not mean I, or any other player, should not get equal treatment and accommodations.

I propose a transplant option for Holiday obstacles. A one time placement edit for holiday obstacles that can even cost a few gems to move. I would happily spend gems to move my Christmas trees to the safety of the border but sadly Supercell hasn't given us that option yet.

Please Supercell, let us move our Holiday decorations that you spent time designing. Don't make us destroy them!

Some quotes from fellow supporters:

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Originally Posted by Jagrnaught

/signed

Glad I found this rather than trying to make my own thread. Moving consistently spawning obstacles bears no merit (OP would agree), but the limited time obstacles, no matter how much you try, can't end up where you'd ultimately like them. I also see this idea for the thousands of less serious players who will never come to these forums, that may wish for the same idea.

I see it as a premium feature though, worth some amount of gems (1-5?) to move it. Also, someone earlier mentioned make it one time only (per premium obstacle) which I would be fine with. My preference would be the ability to line them up in succession. My own CoC "I was there when..." timeline.

To this day I regret chopping my only 2012 tree.

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Originally Posted by geomanic

I know the day will come when I am forced to chop down my 2012 xmas tree and it's going to be a sad day for me. I agree with your comment about the premium move feature, I suggested the use of extra elixir, like double, triple, whatever.

Really, think of the creativity we would be able to use when creating bases. Moving obstacles in no way, shape, or form will effect gameplay. Why not let us have a little more fun with the game?
November 28th, 2015
DiamondMinah

I thought they were removing the ones that weren't attached to the edge or on the edge?
November 28th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamondMinah

I thought they were removing the ones that weren't attached to the edge or on the edge?

The ones that are on the edge or right next to it get to move. If they don't touch the border then they will stay where they are. My Christmas tree is 1 space away from the border. Lucky me!... not :rolleyes:
November 28th, 2015
ClashLegend02

Best solution would be to move all obstacles 4 tiles to the side they are at, if that makes sense.
November 28th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by ClashLegend02

Best solution would be to move all obstacles 4 tiles to the side they are at, if that makes sense.

I totally agree. I thought that was what was going to happen but alas, no.
November 28th, 2015
Liberation

I spent every holiday season running a decoration base to force my trees to the edge, I suffered crushing defeats on defense for weeks on end. I have been rewarded with my obstacles safely out of the way. Now you ask SC to give the ability to move them? Have my efforts been in vain? I highly doubt they will allow this to happen anyway, but if they do I say some serious compensation is called for.
November 28th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by Liberation

I spent every holiday season running a decoration base to force my trees to the edge, I suffered crushing defeats on defense for weeks on end. I have been rewarded with my obstacles safely out of the way. Now you ask SC to give the ability to move them? Have my efforts been in vain? I highly doubt they will allow this to happen anyway, but if they do I say some serious compensation is called for.

And I did the same as you. At least as best as a TH8 could. There are not enough buildings at TH8 to create a perfect decoration base. So it would seems my endeavors were in vain.
November 28th, 2015
Liberation

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Originally Posted by Darktitan

And I did the same as you. At least as best as a TH8 could. There are not enough buildings at TH8 to create a perfect decoration base. So it would seems my endeavors were in vain.

What..

I was TH8 during both 2014 Halloween and Christmas, I had more than enough buildings & walls to make the best decoration base I could. Sure they weren't great, and like I said defense was a nightmare to behold, but in my mind the decorations I acquired were well worth the weeks of vulnerability. I'm not sure what TH8 you were using but with the current map size I'm pretty sure TH7's have enough buildings to fully cover the map.
November 28th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by Liberation

What..

I was TH8 during both 2014 Halloween and Christmas, I had more than enough buildings & walls to make the best decoration base I could. Sure they weren't great, and like I said defense was a nightmare to behold, but in my mind the decorations I acquired were well worth the weeks of vulnerability. I'm not sure what TH8 you were using but with the current map size I'm pretty sure TH7's have enough buildings to fully cover the map.

First off there were more building in 2014 than there were in 2013. And second, I believe the object spawn rate increased from 2013 to 2014 making it easier for you to acquire said object.
November 29th, 2015
Liberation

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Originally Posted by Darktitan

First off there were more building in 2014 than there were in 2013. And second, I believe the object spawn rate increased from 2013 to 2014 making it easier for you to acquire said object.

They didn't add all that many more buildings 2 or 3 if I remember correctly.. and as it's true the spawn rate was increased a cap was put on the objects; for instance the 2014 Christmas tree's only spawned 5 per player so long as your village met the right conditions (Less than 40 obstacles & room from them to spawn) so yeah..
November 30th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by Liberation

They didn't add all that many more buildings 2 or 3 if I remember correctly.. and as it's true the spawn rate was increased a cap was put on the objects; for instance the 2014 Christmas tree's only spawned 5 per player so long as your village met the right conditions (Less than 40 obstacles & room from them to spawn) so yeah..

I feel like this helps the pro move obstacles case. I also don't believe that it's crazy to think Supercell would add this feature. You try to use the point that you (and many other rplayers including myself) have built obstacle bases which cause your base to get hammered in defense. You say that it wouldn't be fair of they made that all for naught. The fact is that Supercell added an elixir for walls update in which they never refunded us farmers who had their elixir sitting out in the open because it serverd no purpose at the time. We didn't get compensated. Likewise this situation would not deem or require compensation.
November 30th, 2015
immortalzrizing

move all obstacles would be better :)
December 2nd, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by immortalzrizing

move all obstacles would be better :)

That would definetly be cool. I've always dreamed of having a ring of pine trees around my base like the goblins bases. And I mean think about it, you're able to plant real trees in real life AND transplants them.
December 3rd, 2015
PureEnergy66

So annoying :p! Agreed. But they are obstacles..
December 4th, 2015
LtRydell

I also agree. Christmas trees and Halloween headstones, cauldrons and the like should be classified as decorations and we should be allowed to move them and place them wherever we want, even on the edge of the map.
December 4th, 2015
Mihil

I love my Cauldrons

After the Halloween Season I have acquired 11 cauldrons and only 3 are on edge. I know I will have to remove them someday and it makes me sad. Please SuperCell let me move those Cauldrons.
December 5th, 2015
Darktitan

/signed :smirk:
December 5th, 2015
zukoCOC

/signed
I totally agree with you. Removing my cauldrons in the middle of the base is heart breaking. I removed three of them, now there are seven and they are really close to my biuldings. Supercell please make a move button for gifts like cauldrons.
December 6th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by zukoCOC

/signed
I totally agree with you. Removing my cauldrons in the middle of the base is heart breaking. I removed three of them, now there are seven and they are really close to my biuldings. Supercell please make a move button for gifts like cauldrons.

Yeah espically when they're expanding the map on us haha. If they weren't changing the map size I wouldn't be petitioning for this but now that the map will be bigger they're in essence telling us we will need that space. If we are going to need that space they should let us keep our special obstacles in safety seeing as how they are safe right now.
December 6th, 2015
Echo006

I just don't see why SC don't move every single obstacle 4 tiles to the right/left/up or down. Only moving things on the border means some trees will be separated and it will end up looking silly!
December 6th, 2015
Moraw

if you will be able to move them, then older players should be able to get the ones, they used to remove them because they couldnt build their base.
December 6th, 2015
Theking8133

Well, since it's near Christmas, I thought I would give you all a gift. Here is the definition of an obstacle:

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Originally Posted by Merriam Dictionary

something that impedes progress or achievement

They are called obstacles because there supposed to get in your way. Even though you get something from them, there still not there to be an unlimited reward.
December 7th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by Theking8133

Well, since it's near Christmas, I thought I would give you all a gift. Here is the definition of an obstacle:

They are called obstacles because there supposed to get in your way. Even though you get something from them, there still not there to be an unlimited reward.

I don't think people like yourself understand my reasons for this. if supercell haven't gone and changed the map size I would be perfectly happy having my tree where it stands now. It has been where it is right now for 2 years and I'm happy with it. Now supercell is making our bases take up more space and they are only accommodating some players. I were to use your silly little definition above then the obstacles on the border should not move either. Just because my tree is one tile off doesn't mean I shouldn't get equal treatment from supercell
December 7th, 2015
Liberation

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darktitan

I feel like this helps the pro move obstacles case. I also don't believe that it's crazy to think Supercell would add this feature. You try to use the point that you (and many other rplayers including myself) have built obstacle bases which cause your base to get hammered in defense. You say that it wouldn't be fair of they made that all for naught. The fact is that Supercell added an elixir for walls update in which they never refunded us farmers who had their elixir sitting out in the open because it serverd no purpose at the time. We didn't get compensated. Likewise this situation would not deem or require compensation.

What about people who removed holiday obstacles that didn't spawn on the edge? Are we going to give them those back? No, that would be ridiculous. Bringing up elixir for walls and farming compensation has nothing to do with the real issue at hand. But you're right, this situation doesn't need compensation anyway. Because it won't happen.
December 7th, 2015
Theking8133

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darktitan

I don't think people like yourself understand my reasons for this. if supercell haven't gone and changed the map size I would be perfectly happy having my tree where it stands now. It has been where it is right now for 2 years and I'm happy with it. Now supercell is making our bases take up more space and they are only accommodating some players. I were to use your silly little definition above then the obstacles on the border should not move either. Just because my tree is one tile off doesn't mean I shouldn't get equal treatment from supercell

The point of moving the obstacles is so TH11 can still place down some buildings even if they make the expensive upgrade (I assume, at least). If you have an obstacle which was NOT in the range, then it was already impeding growth of your base, and doesn't need to be moved.
December 7th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theking8133

The point of moving the obstacles is so TH11 can still place down some buildings even if they make the expensive upgrade (I assume, at least). If you have an obstacle which was NOT in the range, then it was already impeding growth of your base, and doesn't need to be moved.

Exactly... I have been able to build my TH10 base just fine. Now that TH11 will becoming, it will no longer work. It's like changing the rules to something mid game. Had supercell given every player the opportunity to get a Christmas tree on the edge, I would not be having this debate. The fact of the matter is that some of us tried our hardest to get them on the edges but they never appeared there. We should not be punished for a random encounter that was out of our control.
December 7th, 2015
Avery99

/Signed
I like the idea, but in the back of my mind I think SC will never do something like this.
December 7th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery99

/Signed
I like the idea, but in the back of my mind I think SC will never do something like this.

You never know! I never thought they would allow name changes either haha :smirk:
December 7th, 2015
Az240sx

I think it should be treated just like a name change, you get one chance to move it and that's it.
December 7th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by Az240sx

I think it should be treated just like a name change, you get one chance to move it and that's it.

Yeah definetly. Don't want it to get abused for sure.
December 7th, 2015
bhcool12

this is ilogical
December 7th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by bhcool12

this is ilogical

:facepalm: Perhaps to those that don't understand real world landscaping.

Since when is transplanting illogical may I ask?
December 10th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by Moraw

if you will be able to move them, then older players should be able to get the ones, they used to remove them because they couldnt build their base.

I understand this but I do not nessiciarly agree. Players like me have decided to suffer through and build their bases around these trees instead of removing them. If other players removed them, that was their choice. Having then spawn a space away from the border was not our choice.
December 10th, 2015
S1mplyDBest

i absolute support this idea. cause i like to collect the event items and you never really know they will pop up and sometimes they are in the worse locations even if its the only one you get.
December 10th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by S1mplyDBest

i absolute support this idea. cause i like to collect the event items and you never really know they will pop up and sometimes they are in the worse locations even if its the only one you get.

Indeed it's true! You wouldn't think that supercell would want us to feel forced to remove the items that represent our loyalty to the game haha
December 10th, 2015
MasterTravisCoC

They're moving all up to like 6 spaces from the boarder to further out
December 10th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by MasterTravisCoC

They're moving all up to like 6 spaces from the boarder to further out

Alas if only it were so. The only obstacles moving are the ones on or touching the border :(
December 10th, 2015
XxD3fiancexX

I agree and am in full swing with this potential successful cause. You got my signature! Let's make it happen!
December 10th, 2015
LemoneyFresh937

Signed, SAVE THE TREES!!!
December 11th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by XxD3fiancexX

I agree and am in full swing with this potential successful cause. You got my signature! Let's make it happen!

Believe me... I am very passionate about getting this feature noticed and hopefully implemented haha.

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Originally Posted by LemoneyFresh937

Signed, SAVE THE TREES!!!

Ahhh yay! A fellow tree hugger :smirk:
December 11th, 2015
eevee46

I think part of the fun and challenge is trying to get them to spawn where you want them.
December 11th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by eevee46

I think part of the fun and challenge is trying to get them to spawn where you want them.

It's true that it's fun to try to get them there. But its totally not if it doesn't work. That's why I think it should cost gems. That way it's still a lot better to try to get them where you want them the first time. But as many of us know, sometimes it doesn't work. Especially way back then when holiday obstacle spawn rates were drastically lower.
December 11th, 2015
XFireStormX

How about Buying holiday Decorations?

I love Christmas trees and other holiday stuff! but I haven't seen one on my base yet :(

If they're gone when you remove them, then I'd suppose moving them!
December 11th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by XFireStormX

I love Christmas trees and other holiday stuff! but I haven't seen one on my base yet :(

If they're gone when you remove them, then I'd suppose moving them!

Did you start after Christmas of 2014? If not then it is very odd that no Christmas trees appeared.
December 11th, 2015
Kez

Signed!!!!!!

I have 3 types of trees, and the originals from christmas 2012 in particular are in a terrible position given the map expansion and the need to change bases.

Please give us the opportunity to move them 🙏
December 11th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kez

Signed!!!!!!

I have 3 types of trees, and the originals from christmas 2012 in particular are in a terrible position given the map expansion and the need to change bases.

Please give us the opportunity to move them 🙏

I can sympathize 100%. Sadly I wasn't playing in winter 2012 but I do have two of the 2013 trees and they are both in bad spots despite my attempts to make them spawn on the edges those years ago. We'll make this happen :smirk:
December 11th, 2015
Xdpker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darktitan

I can sympathize 100%. Sadly I wasn't playing in winter 2012 but I do have two of the 2013 trees and they are both in bad spots despite my attempts to make them spawn on the edges those years ago. We'll make this happen :smirk:

So many things wrong with this update and all you care about are your dumb trees in the wrong place?
December 11th, 2015
Xdpker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darktitan

I understand this but I do not nessiciarly agree. Players like me have decided to suffer through and build their bases around these trees instead of removing them. If other players removed them, that was their choice. Having then spawn a space away from the border was not our choice.

You make it sound like you're entitled to having a Christmas decoration spawn on the border. You're not
December 12th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xdpker

You make it sound like you're entitled to having a Christmas decoration spawn on the border. You're not

Then by your logic players shoudlnt have had their obstacles move with the border. I'm not saying that I demand my trees be placed on the border. I'm requesting that they be in the same place in relation to the border that whey were pre update and the easiest way would be to let us move them ourselves one time.
December 12th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xdpker

So many things wrong with this update and all you care about are your dumb trees in the wrong place?

I'm sorry to hear that youre having trouble with this update. I myself am having close to no issues with gameplay. My shields are working like supercell said they would :)

If you're not happy with update then go and talk about it somewhere else. Don't belittle the concerns of those of us that have none other than this.
December 12th, 2015
Xdpker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darktitan

Then by your logic players shoudlnt have had their obstacles move with the border. I'm not saying that I demand my trees be placed on the border. I'm requesting that they be in the same place in relation to the border that whey were pre update and the easiest way would be to let us move them ourselves one time.

No. Those obstacles were already on the border and not in the playing area. Yours are. Say for example a player built their base around a couple of obstacles, gem box, Christmas tree, Halloween headstone. Now can you see the problem for that player if those items were all moved equidistance in relationship to where they were pre update? Like I said before you're not entitled to decoration spawns on the border and since your trees weren't on the border they won't be moved. Case closed
December 12th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by Xdpker

No. Those obstacles were already on the border and not in the playing area. Yours are. Say for example a player built their base around a couple of obstacles, gem box, Christmas tree, Halloween headstone. Now can you see the problem for that player if those items were all moved equidistance in relationship to where they were pre update? Like I said before you're not entitled to decoration spawns on the border and since your trees weren't on the border they won't be moved. Case closed

I've very intrigued about how you consider yourself a moderator. The case is most certainly not closed. You have valid arguments it is true, but people like myself do too. I would like to remind you that the obstacles on the border had no more right to move with the map than the ones not touching the border. It would have been better for everyone if supercell had moved everything. People that worked hard to have an obstacle in the center of their base were also duped by this since it is no longer centered as well as it was before.

It is my opinion that players shouldn't reward/punished for something that was totally out of their control. I was trying my best to get my Christmas 2013 trees to spawn on the edge but they didn't. So what did I do? I lived with the inconvenience and managed to build around them but it wasn't that bad cause my base didn't usually need all the space. Now Supercell has made our bases require more space so building around them is near impossible if you want a base that works. That's not right to disadvantage and annoy their players because of a faulty spawn system. I'm sure many other people had this same experience.

These days getting a holiday obstacle on the edge is pretty much a sure thing if you try or not. It wasn't like that in 2012 and 2013. It needs to be rectified. The solution isn't to try and shut up loyal players that have spent years on the game.
December 12th, 2015
Xdpker

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Originally Posted by Darktitan

I've very intrigued about how you consider yourself a moderator.

Never said I was a moderator.

The case is most certainly not closed. You have valid arguments it is true, but people like myself do too. I would like to remind you that the obstacles on the border had no more right to move with the map than the ones not touching the border.

Wrong, they did have a right to move because they were NOT in the playing area. The ones in the playing area should not move because of the aforementioned reason. e.g. Gembox in the middle, xmas trees in the base somewhere.

It would have been better for everyone if supercell had moved everything. People that worked hard to have an obstacle in the center of their base were also duped by this since it is no longer centered as well as it was before.

How are they not centered anymore? You said yourself the obstacles in the playing area hasn't moved, just that the area is expanded. People with gemboxes in the center of their base still have it in the center BECAUSE sc haven't moved it.

It is my opinion that players shouldn't reward/punished for something that was totally out of their control. I was trying my best to get my Christmas 2013 trees to spawn on the edge but they didn't. So what did I do? I lived with the inconvenience and managed to build around them but it wasn't that bad cause my base didn't usually need all the space. Now Supercell has made our bases require more space so building around them is near impossible if you want a base that works. That's not right to disadvantage and annoy their players because of a faulty spawn system. I'm sure many other people had this same experience.

Nobody is rewarding or punishing anybody. Tree spawns are random and it is YOUR choice whether to cut them down or not if they impede your progress. Don't cry to SC because they don't fit into your base design. If your tree was really 1 tile from the edge like you said, I'm sure you can shift your whole base up, down, left, or right to accommodate it when you upgrade to th 11.

These days getting a holiday obstacle on the edge is pretty much a sure thing if you try or not. It wasn't like that in 2012 and 2013. It needs to be rectified. The solution isn't to try and shut up loyal players that have spent years on the game.

10charssss
December 13th, 2015
Darktitan

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Originally Posted by Xdpker

10charssss

You telling me not to cry to supercell is stupid... Just stupid. This sub forum is for future requests to me implemented and that's what I'm doing. Your arguments make sense I won't deny but that doesn't mean it nesicarrily right for game play situations. On a logic level this feature makes sense.

Also, by saying "case closed" you implied that you had supiror authority that you nor I have. I was simply expressing that I would appreciate constructive criticism. Not what you are doing.
December 15th, 2015
JacWhisper

Signed. Can't support this enough. I, in a terribly horribly sad fit of tears, had to dig out TWO Halloween pots just a few weeks ago, because I have a TH9 base that covers everything, but has two spaces for places like Teslas. NOT three. Apparently, the 2015 objects CAN and WILL put themselves RIGHT next to a base object, unlike previous holiday objects, which needed a 1 space barrier to spawn.

I would say charge us what it costs to 'use' the objects, and we can use a 'spade' in the Shop, to dig it up and transplant it once. Clean and simple.
December 15th, 2015
Alex3745

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Originally Posted by Darktitan

And I did the same as you. At least as best as a TH8 could. There are not enough buildings at TH8 to create a perfect decoration base. So it would seems my endeavors were in vain.

It's not an issue at th8 farming obstacles at he edge. Just need to build some decorations and flags and space them every 3 spaces
December 15th, 2015
JacWhisper

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Originally Posted by Alex3745

It's not an issue at th8 farming obstacles at he edge. Just need to build some decorations and flags and space them every 3 spaces

Doesn't work now. My base has two Halloween pink pots LITERALLY next to each other. No space inbetween. In 2013/2014, they had a collision barrier of at least ONE space, letting you put them where you wanted through sacrifice and base spreading. This year? Apparently not.
December 15th, 2015
Alex3745

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacWhisper

Doesn't work now. My base has two Halloween pink pots LITERALLY next to each other. No space inbetween. In 2013/2014, they had a collision barrier of at least ONE space, letting you put them where you wanted through sacrifice and base spreading. This year? Apparently not.

They spawn like gem boxes and have no buffer required. The cauldrons were a pain since the Halloween update lasted forever and we got like 50 of them. I'm happy to never see one of those spawn again lol
December 15th, 2015
DJJDCOOOL

/signed

Supercell, stop being greedy and ignoring the fans and give us what we want for once not what will make you money. ADD THIS!! Ive been playing this game for almost three years and I LOVE this game but i HATE supercell. They rarly listen to the fans and adding TH11 wasn't for the fans it was for the money. They need to stop asking for small loans of a million dollars.
December 15th, 2015
Tanel

/signed
But only for the holiday obstacles!
December 15th, 2015
GameSketcher

/signed man!!!

it would be awesome to move the holiday obstacles just like other decorations
December 15th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanel

/signed
But only for the holiday obstacles!

I agree. Only holiday obstacles.
December 15th, 2015
Anubis32

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Originally Posted by Darktitan

http://i.imgur.com/pGmglMk.jpg

** If you support this idea please write /signed**

I have been playing this great game since May 2013 and it's one that I always come back to. In that time I've received many special holiday obstacles which I love. I got the 2013 Christmas tree when I was a TH8 and was disappointed that they never spawned on the edge of my base but I worked around them. They were annoying where they were but it was manageable in most cases.

Now that Supercell has announced the release of TH11, they also feel as if the map size will need to be larger as well (makes sense most TH10 bases take up almost the entire map as it is). I'm very happy they decided to have this expansion. However, the issue is that my Christmas trees that I've been cultivating since 2013 will most definitely be getting in the way of building half way decent trophy bases. I don't want to cut them down seeing as how they show my long time dedication to the game. I also cannot easily progress to TH11 and continue my base designing passion if my Christmas trees are getting in the way of these designs.

Just because my tree is one tile off does not mean I, or any other player, should not get equal treatment and accommodations.

I propose a transplant option for Holiday obstacles. A one time placement edit for holiday obstacles that can even cost a few gems to move. I would happily spend gems to move my Christmas trees to the safety of the border but sadly Supercell hasn't given us that option yet.

Please Supercell, let us move our Holiday decorations that you spent time designing. Don't make us destroy them!

This is a great idea /Signed
December 17th, 2015
Xdpker

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Originally Posted by Darktitan

I agree. Only holiday obstacles.

Why? That's not fair, my beginner stone obstacle was in the middle of my base and I had to build around it. Why is it only you guys can move your holiday obstacles, but I can't move my stone to the edge?
December 17th, 2015
JacWhisper

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Originally Posted by Xdpker

Why? That's not fair, my beginner stone obstacle was in the middle of my base and I had to build around it. Why is it only you guys can move your holiday obstacles, but I can't move my stone to the edge?

Because if you showed enough foresight to build around your starter stone, you could have shown the foresight to respawn your base over and over until you had an edge stone. Not hard to do that.
December 17th, 2015
H1GG1N5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberation

I spent every holiday season running a decoration base to force my trees to the edge, I suffered crushing defeats on defense for weeks on end. I have been rewarded with my obstacles safely out of the way. Now you ask SC to give the ability to move them? Have my efforts been in vain? I highly doubt they will allow this to happen anyway, but if they do I say some serious compensation is called for.

Agreed, I have a TH5 base that I was able to move all the walls and buildings around enough even to make the trees and cauldrons spawn on the outside. I have taken massive losses to make them spawn where I wanted to as well.

Just gotta be creative and let other trees, logs, bushes spawn on the inside of the map before the update comes out.
December 17th, 2015
ROADBLOK

I would like this to happen. I have a headstone that is now in the way and I don't want to lose it, it's my only one. I got it before I knew about these spawn bases. :unsure:
December 17th, 2015
Xdpker

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacWhisper

Because if you showed enough foresight to build around your starter stone, you could have shown the foresight to respawn your base over and over until you had an edge stone. Not hard to do that.

Lol are you crazy? Restart the game over again and again until I get an edge stone in the beginning. Why don't you restart your base over and over again during the holidays until you get a Christmas tree on the edge? BTW I don't have a starter stone, I was just making a point to the OP.
December 17th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xdpker

Lol are you crazy? Restart the game over again and again until I get an edge stone in the beginning. Why don't you restart your base over and over again during the holidays until you get a Christmas tree on the edge? BTW I don't have a starter stone, I was just making a point to the OP.

The stones no longer spawn on the edges so your argument that you should be able to move those too doesn't work very well. Besides it's not possible to move boulders with one man but moving little pine trees is possible with just one guy (the builder).
December 18th, 2015
buckeyemaniac

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darktitan

I propose a transplant option for Holiday obstacles. A one time placement edit for holiday obstacles that can even cost a few gems to move. I would happily spend gems to move my Christmas trees to the safety of the border but sadly Supercell hasn't given us that option yet.

Please Supercell, let us move our Holiday decorations that you spent time designing. Don't make us destroy them!

/Signed

Great idea, I like them also for the same reason, to show the length of time I have invested in the game.

Here's Hoping...
December 18th, 2015
Jag00

/signed
Save the obstacles!

On a side note, what about when a holiday object is removed, it unlocks 1 of that object in the shop? And you can pay 75k elixir/gold to use it like a normal decoration.
December 18th, 2015
Looting

/signed
Great idea, although this hasn't happened to me. yet
December 18th, 2015
TheDailyRaid

/signed

The cauldrons annoyed me enough...
December 18th, 2015
Xdpker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darktitan

The stones no longer spawn on the edges so your argument that you should be able to move those too doesn't work very well. Besides it's not possible to move boulders with one man but moving little pine trees is possible with just one guy (the builder).

The stones never spawn. They were the ones you get in the beginning. Are you seriously comparing what you can do in real life to what you can do in clash? Do we also have dragons and wizards in real life who can shoot fire? :facepalm:
December 18th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xdpker

The stones never spawn. They were the ones you get in the beginning. Are you seriously comparing what you can do in real life to what you can do in clash? Do we also have dragons and wizards in real life who can shoot fire? :facepalm:

The stones never Spawn...? They all spawn right off the bat. They don't respawn if that's what you mean. The fact is that stones don't spawn on the base border and trees naturally can. I know you'll refute with that one guy who has that freakish stone on the border of his base but that's another story. That's literally one in millions and can't be compared to the regular community of players. Also now it's my turn to face palm about the realism... It was kind of a joke :facepalm:
December 18th, 2015
Charizar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberation

I spent every holiday season running a decoration base to force my trees to the edge, I suffered crushing defeats on defense for weeks on end. I have been rewarded with my obstacles safely out of the way. Now you ask SC to give the ability to move them? Have my efforts been in vain? I highly doubt they will allow this to happen anyway, but if they do I say some serious compensation is called for.

Ok, I'll admit you did well, but we can all agree the compensation would be that for each holiday obstacle has to use 50 gems to move them, surely you being... About 250 gems up is worth something
December 18th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charizar

Ok, I'll admit you did well, but we can all agree the compensation would be that for each holiday obstacle has to use 50 gems to move them, surely you being... About 250 gems up is worth something

This is exactly my point :)
December 18th, 2015
Daviid

Hope they do that !
December 18th, 2015
EtoxKen

/signed

10Obstacles
December 19th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daviid

Hope they do that !

/signed? :smirk: Haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtoxKen

/signed

10Obstacles

Dang your base must be crowded heheh :p
December 19th, 2015
Coconcade

Wow

This seems hideous
December 19th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coconcade

This seems hideous

I ask you to keep your comments that are simply meant to be rude and unconstructive out of this thread. This type of comment is out of line and disrespectful. This is not what the clash community was built for. I also invite you to not reply if you mean to do it in a similar manner to your first comment.
December 19th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROADBLOK

I would like this to happen. I have a headstone that is now in the way and I don't want to lose it, it's my only one. I got it before I knew about these spawn bases. :unsure:

I definetly can can understnd that. Supercell never explains the spawn system of the holiday obstacles so new players have a massive disadvantage.
December 19th, 2015
ROADBLOK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darktitan

I definetly can can understnd that. Supercell never explains the spawn system of the holiday obstacles so new players have a massive disadvantage.

Opps, I forgot to sign...

/signed.
December 20th, 2015
bobbychan193

/signed for sure.
December 21st, 2015
geomanic

I like the idea, honestly would pay to move my xmas tree from 2012. I mean, it's almost inevitable that I will have to remove it at some point, and that will make me sad.

I would take the concept even further. Let us use an extra elixir expense to transplant spawned obstacles to where we would like? I mean, think of how creative we could get with the asthetic and design of our bases.

Supercell, please let me move my tree 🙏🏼 And please make all obstacles transplantable using an added cost of elixir.
December 21st, 2015
Shmegler

Voted for 'No this feature would break the game' on two points:

First... What an utterly trivial "issue" to request SC to dedicate their efforts towards.
Second.. You must have toddlers as your options are ridiculously out of balance (Fabulous idea OR No one will ever get to play again). If your proposal has any merit it should be able to bear some manner of scrutiny.

But in the spirit of Christmas here's a counter-proposal - In order to maintain balance, a new anti-Hero is also born .. The chainsaw weilding "Jason Q. Grinch" who's sole purpose is to saw down Xmas Trees... BUT..low to modest HP, and it takes 2.5 mins to drop a tree... so you Xmas Tree fans could reasonably defend your trees even when your bases were cleared, as the Grinch would need to be in position within the first 60 seconds, and not get struck for the duration.

Agreed?
December 21st, 2015
PureEnergy66

No.

1. An obstacle is an obstacle which blocks your path.

2. They spawn randomly and if you can move it, its really pointless.

3. Build better bases to make them spawn on the outer edges.

Not trying to be rude but these are my reasons. /notsigned.
December 21st, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shmegler

Voted for 'No this feature would break the game' on two points:

First... What an utterly trivial "issue" to request SC to dedicate their efforts towards.
Second.. You must have toddlers as your options are ridiculously out of balance (Fabulous idea OR No one will ever get to play again). If your proposal has any merit it should be able to bear some manner of scrutiny.

But in the spirit of Christmas here's a counter-proposal - In order to maintain balance, a new anti-Hero is also born .. The chainsaw weilding "Jason Q. Grinch" who's sole purpose is to saw down Xmas Trees... BUT..low to modest HP, and it takes 2.5 mins to drop a tree... so you Xmas Tree fans could reasonably defend your trees even when your bases were cleared, as the Grinch would need to be in position within the first 60 seconds, and not get struck for the duration.

Agreed?

lol I appreciate your sarcasm. But let me just say that what is "trivial" to you is not trivial to many other players. Respect our views please and we will respect yours. The options are also not out of balance. If you really don't want a feature implemented then it would break the game for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureEnergy66

No.

1. An obstacle is an obstacle which blocks your path.

2. They spawn randomly and if you can move it, its really pointless.

3. Build better bases to make them spawn on the outer edges.

Not trying to be rude but these are my reasons. /notsigned.

An obstacle does not need to impede your way permanently. Think about it. You're in the back yard and you have a raspberry bush that you really want to keep because you enjoy eating its produce. The problem is that it's obstructing you from adding that addition to your house that you really need because your new child needs a room of their own. Is the only solution to rip the bush out and throw it in the mulch pile? No! You can get a shovel and carefully transplanted it to a save spot. The bush that was once an obstacle to your progressing in life is not longer in your way but is still in existence is a save spot happily living out its life.
December 25th, 2015
sdinaro

Signed! I completely agree!

Signed, I completely agree!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darktitan

http://i.imgur.com/pGmglMk.jpg

** If you support this idea please write /signed**

I have been playing this great game since May 2013 and it's one that I always come back to. In that time I've received many special holiday obstacles which I love. I got the 2013 Christmas tree when I was a TH8 and was disappointed that they never spawned on the edge of my base but I worked around them. They were annoying where they were but it was manageable in most cases.

Now that Supercell has announced the release of TH11, they also feel as if the map size will need to be larger as well (makes sense most TH10 bases take up almost the entire map as it is). I'm very happy they decided to have this expansion. However, the issue is that my Christmas trees that I've been cultivating since 2013 will most definitely be getting in the way of building half way decent trophy bases. I don't want to cut them down seeing as how they show my long time dedication to the game. I also cannot easily progress to TH11 and continue my base designing passion if my Christmas trees are getting in the way of these designs.

Just because my tree is one tile off does not mean I, or any other player, should not get equal treatment and accommodations.

I propose a transplant option for Holiday obstacles. A one time placement edit for holiday obstacles that can even cost a few gems to move. I would happily spend gems to move my Christmas trees to the safety of the border but sadly Supercell hasn't given us that option yet.

Please Supercell, let us move our Holiday decorations that you spent time designing. Don't make us destroy them!
December 26th, 2015
Theking8133

I'm going to employ an old saying here:

This is why we can't have nice things.

The obstacles may give you something, but they are still just that. Obstacles. There not able to be moved, because you can't move any other obstacle. If we could move them, they would become holiday randomly spawning decorations.
December 26th, 2015
SoldierNumber2178281828

We have other things to worry about. Not even sure why this is mentioned at the moment.

There should be a 3rd option. "No, Supercell has more important features to improve."
December 26th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoldierNumber2178281828

We have other things to worry about. Not even sure why this is mentioned at the moment.

There should be a 3rd option. "No, Supercell has more important features to improve."

Lol bro. This thread was made before the update dropped :facepalm:
December 26th, 2015
PhillyGator

/signed

F f f f
December 28th, 2015
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theking8133

I'm going to employ an old saying here:

This is why we can't have nice things.

The obstacles may give you something, but they are still just that. Obstacles. There not able to be moved, because you can't move any other obstacle. If we could move them, they would become holiday randomly spawning decorations.

Your misunderstanding of obstacles is what is giving you this view. As I stated earlier, obstacles don't always impede your path permanetly. See me post on the previous page for more details.
December 28th, 2015
ClasherTimothy123

I don't like this idea. How about this: moving ALL obstacles!
January 2nd, 2016
Darktitan

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClasherTimothy123

I don't like this idea. How about this: moving ALL obstacles!

I fail to see the point you're trying to make here. Please clarify.
January 2nd, 2016
PureEnergy66

An obstacle spawns somewhere random and moving it defeats the purpose. SC do get more money though.
January 6th, 2016
Jagrnaught

/signed

Glad I found this rather than trying to make my own thread. Moving consistently spawning obstacles bears no merit (OP would agree), but the limited time obstacles, no matter how much you try, can't end up where you'd ultimately like them. I also see this idea for the thousands of less serious players who will never come to these forums, that may wish for the same idea.

I see it as a premium feature though, worth some amount of gems (1-5?) to move it. Also, someone earlier mentioned make it one time only (per premium obstacle) which I would be fine with. My preference would be the ability to line them up in succession. My own CoC "I was there when..." timeline.

To this day I regret chopping my only 2012 tree.
January 6th, 2016
geomanic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagrnaught

/signed

Glad I found this rather than trying to make my own thread. Moving consistently spawning obstacles bears no merit (OP would agree), but the limited time obstacles, no matter how much you try, can't end up where you'd ultimately like them. I also see this idea for the thousands of less serious players who will never come to these forums, that may wish for the same idea.

I see it as a premium feature though, worth some amount of gems (1-5?) to move it. Also, someone earlier mentioned make it one time only (per premium obstacle) which I would be fine with. My preference would be the ability to line them up in succession. My own CoC "I was there when..." timeline.

To this day I regret chopping my only 2012 tree.

I know the day will come when I am forced to chop down my 2012 xmas tree and it's going to be a sad day for me. I agree with your comment about the premium move feature, I suggested the use of extra elixir, like double, triple, whatever.

Really, think of the creativity we would be able to use when creating bases. Moving obstacles in no way, shape, or form will effect gameplay. Why not let us have a little more fun with the game?

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