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So destroying TH doesn't give league bonuses? And also, how does it work if total loot is unchanged? does that mean that the max I can hold in each storage is 1.6m even though technically the cap is 2m? And shouldn't there be a max % lootable of the TH now?
Why are making it difficult for lower level player 😡 How did you find this is fear to everyone you, take voting for this loot system , why are you making this as boom beach ( guys what say about this nonsense system ) spread it guys to everyone and Do not be happen this system to clash of clans
Rubbish ... I'm offering 500k gold 450k elixir and 5800 DEQuote:
Originally Posted by Badzmaru
MY LAST 15 defences have ALL been snipes
Well, there went the last nails in the coffin..
Outside TH are out, but more importantly, we will be getting harassed by 'real' armies that take an hour to make, cost 300k, so the attacker can make a total of like 50k elixir profit. (At lower leagues anyway)
Clear money grab to force, err strongly encourage, gemming during marathon loot sessions, since now the best - and only defence, (for no base can stand vs full dragon/goWhatEver and not yield at least 80% vs same level attackers of reasonable skill) will be to have your base not have any loot to make it not worth attacking.
This will also lower the pool of available loot drastically. Except in the short term with all the dead bases lol.
Since I don't care to do the monkey grind, there's a good chance I'm likely out too, I only care about wars. this will also cost us tons of casual players who will never be able to gain more than they lose. Oh well. At least they did this before Christmas not after, so I can stop my family spending Xmas iTunes cards in gems. (We all play.. Or used to?)
And to think I had good hopes for this update, hoping they would finally actively fight ♥♥♥♥♥ing, and improve war matchmaking so you couldn't game the system anymore.
The combination of this change with the previous changes means far less total loot swimming around in the system as a whole, particularly lix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anoushka[Supercell]
League bonuses increased by just 10%, while there will probably be a 70-80% cut in the number of them given out due to removal of sniping together with longer train times to get armies capable of getting 50% plus, together with a much higher average cost in lix to obtain them, due to needing large percentage damage to get anything much.
For the first two days, I have been saying "Wait and see what the league bonus changes bring". Now that those have been announced, I am very disappointed. I had been expecting increases of more like 50% than 10% (and hoping for even more), and DE included at lower levels such as gold.
Even at masters, the league bonus won't pay for an army capable of taking 70%, nor will 80% of it pay for an army capable of taking 50%. At lower levels it will be way short of enough, so with no snipes to bolster your lix, you will now need much higher value targets to make any real profit.
This will not be confusing for new players because...Quote:
Originally Posted by MandarDeodhar
1/ it will be all they have known
2/ this shield, VG, and PB will be easier to understand once it is in the game
This is just hard for most veteran players because it is change and this is hard to understand and seems super complicated on "paper".
I remember when they changed the formula for coca-cola when nobody asked for it. New coke failed and the brought back coke classic to stem the loss of sales. History may not repeat itself but it often rhymes.
Reducing training time and cost of troops would mean less boosting barracks which means less gems...not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbazinga
Yes they have to turn a profit but there's a difference between being profitable and gouging people
20k increase in champ ||| and only if you get 70% destroyed? Omg SC.... You realy want to kill the game I get it now.
Do you freaking even realise how much elixier an army cost to bring down th8-9 to 70% ?
I was was expecting at least double increase sinds defences will be almost complete wipeouts and then you came with this final JOKE!
anyway... Tnx for your old COC after update find other joy to play with.....have already enough on one job... Don't need other in my free time.
Basically it changes a bit from 100% loot to 80% loot bonus when 50%. Anything other than that changes?
But now the rate of raiding someone is harder due to the difficulties of the base and the town hall inside the base. It takes more time to train a strong troops and the game kicks you out after 3 short hours. I don't know how we are able to farm those dark elixir. Cause some people just don't have time to play often but they got raid so much than before. This new updates want people to play more and earn more. It kills the game for those collecting their earnings from collectors...
Well i didn't see this happening so soon, i thought we might get 12-24 more months before Super-cell shot themselves in the foot.
If these changes come to be im out, and yes all 6 of my accounts will have their storage's out :)
Here's my view on trophies and leagues:
Trophies gained or lost should be directly related on attacker/defender offence and defence levels and not in what league those to are.
Example:
If a maxed TH10 (offensively and defensively) attacks a new TH9 it should get less trophies than if the same maxed TH10 attacked another TH10, regardless of the league they are in.
On another hand: if a mid TH7 dares to attack a TH9 (and succeed) they should be heavily rewarded for their skill and bravery.
League position should not be a place where one "feels comfortable to loot" but a reflection of one's offensive and defensive abilities.
So lets say, if a maxed TH10 Titan 1 player gets matched to a maxed TH10 Master 1 player, the former should get the exact same trophies if he/she was matched to a maxed TH10 in Gold 3, or Titan 2 for example.
If all 3 matches result in the same base defensively, it makes no sense one to offer more trophies than the other two, simply because they are higher or lower in league.
This one may be the nail in the coffin for me...
I'm not happy about the whole shield thing because I think it's going to be a huge negative to the overall economy and make loot more scarce but I'm open minded enough to see how things play out...
THIS LOOT UPDATE AND LEAGUE BONUS NERF has got me really ticked off though...
Yes I know SC has claimed its an upgrade to the league bonus but look at the numbers. They are giving us 10% more league bonus than they were in the past which is a reaaaaallly tiny amount and they are making us get 70% to get it.
Currently you get 100k of each resource and 500 de for league bonus at masters 3. In the update that goes to 110k at 70% and only 88k at 50% so they are taking away 12% for a 50% attack. On top of that, they are making the TH a loot storage so instead of the loot being distributed over 4 containers, its now spread over 5 so you'll be getter less loot than before from storage as well.
TR;DL This loot update will mean less loot for you for the same attack unless you are attacking a premie base...
You have missed something... the lootbonus increase for champs2 and above was not revealed :smirk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloopy14
and the TH holds a quarter of the de-storage previous cap, meaning lootable are only 5% of a quarter of what the de storage used to hold.
I for one don't like the changes for me it seems that this is going to make it really hard to store loot for major upgrades and force you to pay money for gems, but I guess that is what supercell wants.
'All League Bonuses have been significantly increased'
How can you even make a statement like this in light of the actual numbers you provide? How?
I agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberus
If a major part of the idea behind this new update is to establish that SC "knows better" how the game should be played and strictly enforce it without allowing any diversity. And no actions in favor of player/customer feedback .... then I'm afraid they are heading down a similar road to another Finnish company that refused to keep up with what was needed and stubbornly do what they thought was the way to do it.
Unless there is some real effective balancing to these changes (would be almost stupid to assume after these 3 peeks, but to give the benefit of the doubt), this is going down a bad road
I play every day, in the subway or bus or some session on and off at home. I don't feel like doing so anymore at the cost of keeping too many variants and restrictions on my mind. It was a real-fun diversion every day for those little free time sessions. If the updates are not increasing fun and non-brain-drain-involvement then it is not worth it.
At the moment I was teaking a little farming break (playing fallout 4 :smirk:) and just did my war attacks in our clan... After reading the full notes of the first sneak peeks..... think I'm gonna have an extended farmbreak.
I have a feeling these past three sneak peeks are things that were not really asked by the community (execpt fixing those cup offers I can understand and I'm no cupper btw).
Farmes/WarClans are left in the cold with these new things IMO and it only benefits the real hardcore cuppers if you ask me.
Wish they would make this update optional TBH......
Relax they said. Wait until all the sneak peeks have been released they said.
At this rate we won't get all the sneak peeks after the admins are fired for abject incompetence.
If you're raiding below crystal I, the league bonus is mute compared to the loot from the actual base. If you're pulling in 250k why do you care if you get 50% of 8k instead of 100% of 8k? Until you're getting 100k+, it really isn't a big deal. And if you're in a league with that bonus you should be bringing armies that can get you a star anyways... the 80% for 50% destruction will be similar to what it was before with the bonus bumps... So unless you were only sniping th's, all these updates will do is make more targets show up in your searches. If you're a th sniper and that was your main source of income, yeah you're hosed...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahle
We want farming back! Everyone is probably going to quit clash! Please don't do this! Example: if u wanna save up 80k de for your king, its gonna be way to hard!!! Sorry but i don't like this update at all😢
So you're a Maxed TH10 sitting in Gold League... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorPopper
I guess you can speak for all of us. Hit on the nail!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jietoh
Still no loot bonus for successful defense yet we will be attacked far more often, doesn't seem fair considering the costs to rearm everything
Hi,
I saw someone asked this but didn't get a reply, so I'll try again:
Question 1: Does that mean we can store more loot in TH? e.g. the total loot of the village is higher (for example th9 will be 10000000 rather than 8001000).
Question 2: Will gobs attack TH in war?
Thanks!
Can anyone give me a logical explanation as to why Supercell is making these changes? To me, they seem so unnecessary, and complicated as well. I'm having a really hard time understanding the logic behind these sneak peeks. I enjoyed this game so much before, but I think they may be taking things a bit far.... Just my opinion. I will wait until the update is released and I get to mess with it a bit to make a final decision, but as of right now, this isn't looking too good..
Yes destroying a town hall will grant a win bonus, the star systems have all remained the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pranav
1 star- town hall or 50% destruction
2 stars- town hall and 50% destruction
3 stars- 100% destruction
Storage space will remain the same, there will be 8m max. There is a % lootable...the same as a storage and you will not get any loot from the town hall unless you completely destroy it. Hope this helped 👍
League position should not be a place where one "feels comfortable to loot" but a reflection of one's offensive and defensive abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by r3w1nd
Repeated for emphasis. They already have this calculation for determining positioning in war. They could and should implement trophies this way.
"Goblins now target town hall" So, i guess the new hero is a goblin king.... i knew those pointy shoes like his buddies wear, gave it away !
Agreed. At least we get updates. They could treat us like EA Games.. Sigh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antdroid
Somewhat agree. I hope a rebalance increases them even more, and they probably will. Supercell is great at balancing the changing after an update with another one. I'm not worriedQuote:
Originally Posted by BoardGuest808888
Great. All farming layouts have now been ruined completely and are unusable. :thumbsdown:
farmers now will have to depend on collector raids in gold and silver
there is absolutely no way that i can think of farming up in higher leagues without using expensive armies and without using gems for VG.
Revenue is falling, we can't just base on TOP players to gem. Even we release th11 we gonna earn a big bucks but that will stop till th12 again. So we need to come up with something makes farming abit tougher and those that wanna stay online to cover some expenses. Pretty good idea to make once a simple game to something more complicated so people would pay for gems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Symphonies
This isn't confirmed. They never said these are the new league bonuses-...Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberus
They said these are EXAMPLES of how the new league bonus system will work.
Dear SuperCell,
Do you think it would be possible to put the current form of Clash on a separate server and just never change it at all? All the pushers and your best customers can accept your new changes, but 80% of people (casual players, that is) won't.
You will still earn a little money from casual players on the old server, so its a win win!
I am ready to start over for the sake of a good game. But CoC 2.0 is idiocracy in its finest form.
Regards,
a so far happy gamer
Myself and hundreds of thousands of other Clash players are about to severely reduce the time we spend playing the game, or quit altogether. Given their resources and ability to do market research, Supercell must have anticipated the huge negative backlash for this update (although I cannot be sure about this).
Speculation:
1. Based on the statistics that they have access to Supercell realized a few months ago that revenue was declining as the biggest spenders began maxing out, completing their push to Legend, and spending fewer gems.
2. Realizing that fewer new players were joining the game and spending, SC analyzed profitability and decided to focus on the 5% of players that traditionally supply the majority of the revenue.
3. Knowing full well that the update would wreck the game for the majority, SC focused exclusively on the 5%, to provide them with new content and gameplay possibilities, and provide incentive to spend again.
Conclusion/tldr: SC believes that CoC is approaching end of life, and instead of trying to reinvigorate it, they have decided to squeeze their cashcow one last time.
Your thoughts?
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I'm sure their revenue is still very good, the game is still at the top of the most profit apps on every store.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seitou
Answer 1: No, the maximum storage space will stay at 8,000,000 unless they add new storages.Quote:
Originally Posted by UriAr
Answer 2: Yes, goblins will focus the town hall since it is now considered a resource building. They won't focus it over any other resource building though. Hope this helps! ☺
Used to play so many MMORPG games before CoC, but when I started playing CoC , I was amazed :) by how non greedy developers of this game were , letting people play this awesome game without spending a single penny on it.But now, I think I was wrong :unsure:, I should have foreseen that they'll eventually make the game favorable for gemmers.I don't think I can play like I used to anymore with no more farming.
If we are talking about skillful attacks rather than barching , there are wars for that :facepalm:!!!!, If you want us to do skillful attacks in the normal raids also , you should
- Reduce upgrade prices (Not possible)
- Increase loot bonus by significant amount (increasing 20k per raid won't do it)
- Reduce Training time of troops
If these sneak peek updates are going to be good, then please tell me how I (A person who can't spend ♥♥♥♥ load of money on the game) can upgrade with the costs so high for example a lvl10 wall which costs 3million takes atleast 9-10 good dead base raids , now Am I supposed to do GoWiPe attacks for upgrading it :thumbsdown: ,doing so which will only let me upgrade probably one wall a day i.e., 250days for 250 walls, Thank you so much for this stupid update.
I'm a TH 9.5 by farming all the way up here. I also have 456 war stars . I think I'll pass on this game with no hope now :( . RIP Farming. RIP CoC. It was great while it lasted :(
SC have taken a beautifully balanced game which catered for every demographic of every varying skill range and put it through the blender. The mess they're left with will be the ruin of this game.
This is coming from an SC fan boy who embraces every change positively.
I have no complaints about the new direction of our wonderful game. It's about fighting and defending much more now than collecting resources a as it should be!!!
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Originally Posted by ItsZez
You our will be lucky if it increase by 20k..... Knowing SC I bet it will be 15k. So keep dreaming!
And while you quit another 1000 people download the game. Clash is not dying nor SC is making less profitQuote:
Originally Posted by Zebron2
naah.. its just speculation.. after this update things will probably balance out sooner or later (in future updates)... coc 2.0 will be waay more awesome then this game we are playin right now.. hoping for best👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebron2
Obviously not every change 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by CriPpLeR
Here's my view on trophies and leagues:
Trophies gained or lost should be directly related on attacker/defender offence and defence levels and not in what league those to are.
Example:
If a maxed TH10 (offensively and defensively) attacks a new TH9 it should get less trophies than if the same maxed TH10 attacked another TH10, regardless of the league they are in.
On another hand: if a mid TH7 dares to attack a TH9 (and succeed) they should be heavily rewarded for their skill and bravery.
League position should not be a place where one "feels comfortable to loot" but a reflection of one's offensive and defensive abilities.
So lets say, if a maxed TH10 Titan 1 player gets matched to a maxed TH10 Master 1 player, the former should get the exact same trophies if he/she was matched to a maxed TH10 in Gold 3, or Titan 2 for example.
If all 3 matches result in the same base defensively, it makes no sense one to offer more trophies than the other two, simply because they are higher or lower in league.
in fear of mod retaliation I refrain from responding for or against your conclusion....Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebron2
I can say tides are swinging that way
Disagreed. CoC is actually a quite poorly designed game (game play and mechanics wise), and the majority of the community likes that. Since it is a measly mobile game, it is not supposed to be as difficult as splitting atoms. Not to mention that the core ideology of freemium and mobile games is completely different to AAA titles. The simplicity of it, and the dumbed down core mechanics is what allowed a large playerbase. And for a freemium game, popularity is a huge factor for their income. Look at Flappy Bird for example. The game is mind-numbingly dumb, and that's why it was super popular. If SC wants to expand into console gaming, and make an intricate AAA title, I'd gladly dish the $60 for it. This is not the case here. They are trying to capitalize even more on a game that had achieved a large amount of success, but CoC was obviously a fluke, since they have no idea how to replicate it and are destroying the core foundations of it with the new update. Their business plan needs to be completely re-evaluated. A huge percentage of players will be alienated with this new update. I have no idea how that's good for business. Less players = less potential gemmers = less money. Seems pretty simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
Lol, good luck with "fighting and defending" without resources.Quote:
Originally Posted by utexas
Sneak peek 4: boostable building
Sneak peek 5: boostable building
Sneak peek 6: 10 gems to start an attack
Sneak peek 7: 10 gems to collect loot u raided
Sneak peek 8: 10 gems to train troops
Sneak peek 9: 10 gems to talk in clan chat
Sneak peek 10: 10 gems to donate troops
Sneak peek 11: 10 gems start an upgrade
Sneak peek 12: 10 gems to use war attack
Sneak peek 13: 10 gems to make spells
Sneak peek 14: 10 gems just for logging on
My thoughts exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebron2
A lot of people want to play casually sometimes, and not worry about their base getting flattened 2+ times a day. TH snipes allowed themthe chance to get a shield and avoid a major attack on their base, if they got lucky. Now, if you have any loot worth attacking for, you will get a full on attack for sure.
The ability to casually paly this game and not lose all your resources, was a major plus to many players. These changes are great for very active attackers. The people who attack less then a few times a day, are going to really feel some pain.
My experience in life can help answer this question, (some of the question, not all of it).Quote:
Originally Posted by MandarDeodhar
When you start a new game, or a job, you don't wonder what it was like before you came in, you're accepting everything the way it is currently. People that has done the same thing for years have trouble accepting the new ways, I know I have. Change sucks. But for a new person starting out has no idea what the previous experience was like, they learn what they can from the beginning. Others get on YouTube hoping someone has a good explanation on how things are supposed to be, that way they don't have to go through the same growing pains as others did. I hate change, part of human nature, but it is needed, SOMETIMES.
Someone alluded to this being like the Great Depression. That is absolutely correct. I really don't think they considered how much more elixir will be spent on armies now, for such a negligible gain in bonus and an overall LESS gain in loot (since now you have to worry about the TH when "farming"). The Federal Reserve Bank of Supercell will gravitate towards a weaker economy now. $$ will be worth more because of scarcity, but prices will stay the same for everything else, rather than going down like they typically would in a "real" economy.
This update worries me, because SuperCell seems to be trying to drive their customers a certain way rather than having their customers drive their decisions. Farming is part of the game, but they want to take that out by essentially forcing everyone to be a trophy pusher. This is a recipe for failure. If you want a strong long term product, you need to listen to your customers and give them what they want. Obviously they want to generate more revenue, but this could backfire bigtime for them.
Of course, there are still some other updates to come. If the rumors of a "gem collector" are true, it may counter the overall economic loss seemingly in store from this update. For me, they can also redeem this by making heroes active during war.
I hope your wrong but everything is pointing at this being the case. It just doesn't make any sense to kill the highly populated middle ground in the game which this will surely do if that's not their plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebron2
So you are a TH9.5 complaining about upgrade costs?Quote:
Originally Posted by PruthviUchiha
I could be able to upgrade to walls to level 10 every day If I had nothing to do with resources and using barch. You can't pretend them to give you end-game content for free
I'm sorry but throphys are unchange if ur not in Titan or higher so u mean as a th8 in master 2 I'm gonna still have to get 1 throphys off a th10 with max defense just because he's in crystal I'm done good by this game is ♥♥♥♥ now u guys ruin it
I keep hoping the updates will get better ... But for the past year they have gotten worse and worse.... This one so far is taking the cake. I cannot believe what I'm reading! Maybe more will be released that can help clarify this garbage. And who knows maybe this will all work out..... But for the time being. I'm totally shocked by the mentality behind this. It's so excessively complicated and the phrase "don't fix what isn't broken" comes to mind. I'm aware of the issues with clouds and trophy offers at the higher leagues. But shields and the rest of this ♥♥♥♥ is just wrecking the game for casual players. Basically I now have to spend 3x the time and elixir to build an army just to get the same loot I used to get from barching. To me this just shows that supercell is getting more and more greedy. If this continues it WILL kill the game.
Exactly. Everyone that thinks CoC is dying, go to the Google Play Store and look at the top of the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakiOneS
I dont know if anyone else has realised but the hair on its head of the goblin has changed , was that a hint of a new goblin :/
that is least of the problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo006
it seems to me that the end game for COC is near, and they are sensing that too. lets be logical about it, u cannot sustain a game to be number 1 for a decade. eventually people will get bored.Quote:
Originally Posted by LukaSJ
So i guess its just a move to maximize profits now, dont think building player base is even a consideration!
Wise wordsQuote:
Originally Posted by rohitkorde
I'm doing 6 lvl10 walls a day keeping a builder free at the moment. That was just a generic example of how difficult it'd be to upgrade from now on with this kind of update.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakiOneS
Dear, SC if you are sincere in wanting people to farm with strong armies, reduce the training time of units like wiz and loons. If not, you're hypocrites.
When is update happening????
If you're talking about the image in the Dev's Desk post, those are level 6 goblins.Quote:
Originally Posted by TooLeegitt
But this makes ZERO sense in light of the current gameplay. It'll be like destroying the TH somehow magically pulls 20% of the loot from the other storages. Right now the TH is a storage building that holds 1000 each gold and elixir and offers 100% to the attacker. This is just further convolution all in an attempt to stop TH sniping when there were other ways to do it. Simply increasing the storage capacity of the TH and keeping it 100% lootable would've solved the sniping issues. If my TH10 held 100k of each and 1000 DE I would protect it MUCH better.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsZez
10 gems for being able to close the appQuote:
Originally Posted by Drewby77
Kappa
I disagree I do see the signs of desperation and I think they want to make the game better but money always winsQuote:
Originally Posted by MakiOneS
:thumbsup: We need this!Quote:
Originally Posted by Biancoverde13
Announcement stated the storage of the town hall will increase as the level increases. Right now it is at 1000 so your max storage is 8,001,000. If the th storage increase your over all storage well as well. However as it holds 20% of max loot the increase shouldn't be significant. Guessing, but th10 v th10, the max loot from storages only is 400k? So at most storage would in increase to 80k totaling 8,080,000. Or what ever based on what the max storage loot available is...Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsZez
why i cant see my thread
This benefits no-one except Legend league players :facepalm:
#RipThSniping
probably on christmasQuote:
Originally Posted by Klevinator
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Yes you can...you change it. If you leave the game the same and only add more content it is just more of the same. This change will not only spiff up theQuote:
Originally Posted by rohitkorde
game but will also make it more competitive and attract a variety of people. I believe this is a great change for the game...some will quit, that's for sure but there are always others to take their place. I believe most will love this update when it comes out and will realize it's not as complicated and horrible as they believe it to be.
To make a long history short to a farmer: so I suppose we should just copy our war base as our new "farming" base and get on our way?Quote:
Originally Posted by UsmanRaza
Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsZez
Give it a month.
Game changing update indeed, cause ill be changing this game for another one 👍good job SC.
The sneak peeks should read "from the accounting dept desk" instead of from the developers desk.👎
Thanks for a couple of years of fun SC or softbank or whatever.
When sneak peeks result in you having to change your underpants, the chances are they're not good.
RIP Farming... And RIP this game for most people.
Guess it was fun while it lasted. What other games out there are like Coc used to be?
"Signifigant" I don't think that word mean what you think it means.
The new stuff is convoluted complicated and make most people angry.
Let's hope that they started with the bad news and now a week and a half of good news will follow.
Otherwise I see a lot of people abandoning the game. I may be among them. It's not that the changes are THAT bad but they overcomplicated things. Too many IFs and nested IFs.
A game (especially a mobile game) should be simple. You shouldn't need a masters degree to understand all the game mechanics.
#ClashOfGemmers
Great post JD. I think you nailed it. SC definitely wants people to attack and do full attacks, no TH sniping or collecting loot from full collectors around the edges then leaving the battle.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDPetrillo
For me, when I have 2-3 hours of free time, usually at night while the family watches TV, I like to do a bunch of battles. While training a full army, I attack with a partial army, do some TH snipes, maybe attack the collectors around the edge, even if it means a loss because the loot taken is worth it. Then, when my troops are done, I may attack with a full army if the appropriate base presents itself.
With the changes, it looks like my play style will change...I'll spend most of my time training troops...average looting army takes 20-30 minutes. If I need spells or heroes, it's an hour or more.
So, in my 2-3 spare hours of play, I'll actually be training troops rather than playing, maybe getting in 4-5 battles.
With a game console, or other mobile type game, in that same time, one can easily play 10-15 times...actual playing, not looking at screen as your troops train.
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Originally Posted by cloudd2
Yea, may be .. lets hope so..
I'am also a almost max th10 sitting in Silver - Gold , grinding walls .... and im gonna stay here ... im just not into pushing at all ... its just not my thing and i think there a lot max th10s thinking the same way .... so i dont know what gonna happens but it seems that SC wants to force us to play the game like they want ( pushing) ... what if we simply ignore it ?!? i dont care about the trophy offers in titan and loot bonus above champ all i want is play the game the way i like ... So im gonna stay in silver ... continue to do my farming stuff here and if i see after the update that the game is not playable anymore the way i like than i have to quit ... as this is not amymore the game we know and love it will not be hard to quit after 3 years. live goes on ... for all you pushers out there : i am happy for you guys , you get everything you want and need to support your stil of playing ... i can imagine how pumped up you guys are for this update .... i would be happy the same way if they did something good for farming or war but they did not !!! Its like supercell wanna tell us : there can be only one sort of players !!! I will not bevome pusher .. NEVER! ( you guys who think that the loot will explode after the ths not sniapable anymore are wrong because everybody can attack 3-4 times with shield ) ... sorry for my bad english have a nice dayQuote:
Originally Posted by Badzmaru
Unfortunately true. T1 and Legend league get all of the perks because, while this may sound sad, they get what they want because they pay. SC cares little about lower trophy levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by DerQuincy
If you are planning on pushing as far as you can, yes. If you are trying to upgrade your base make a new farming base with an off-centered town hall(like an anti 3 star base but storages being what you want to protect) or if you wanna do a bit of both make a hybrid base like a donut base(resource ring)Quote:
Originally Posted by jdreich
A TINY increase in look bonus (10% to 20%), and now 70% destruction needed to get it ...
No loot bonus for a successful defense ... just the guarantee that you'll be attacked until you eventually lose your loot.
Only good thing is an increase in loot penalty for being a bully.
Overall, this is pretty bad. The LEAST they could have done is eliminated trap re-arming. There is no strategic element to having traps be spent. It is all economic gain to Supercell.
Supercell please give us our old COC back... :(...
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Originally Posted by Wendle
Seconded. If trap rearming is not abolished, this will be a massive hit on anyones loot.
Under the old system:
loonion 50% get 100% of 100% bonus.
Under the new system:
loonion 50% get 80% of 110% bonus (new bonus is increased). 80% of 110% is 88%. Loot bonus decreased.
Under old system:
raid for 50% plus 8 collectors. get all the loot plus all the bonus.
Under new system:
raid for 50% plus 8 collectors. get 80% of the loot and 88% of the bonus. Loot decreased.
Under old system:
could raid with cheap troops.
Under new system:
need war army to get 70% on a max th10 (as I am a max th10 I get matched with max th10s). A popular war army that I use is GoWiWi to get th + at least 50% sometimes 60% but 70% is a stretch. So if I get th + 70% I get 100% of the DE + bonus. In Champs III that bonus is 1220. The DE is 3000. 4220de is gross. But I spent 4k DE to make those troops. Now I get 220 DE net. So if I do that, I just need to raid 681 times to get my AQ from level 30 to level 31. !?!?
So the net effect of the new system is drop down to low leagues and farm dead bases. This is a major fail SC. The league loot bonuses needed a multiplicative modifier. Like x2 for 2 stars, x3 for 3 stars. Not a division factor.
Do you think SC even knows why the majority of people liked this game? It's not about "strong attacks!"
It's about building your base!
Even people who just loved the war aspect of it needed a method to farm loot efficiently and quickly. Now that is gone. As will be many players.
They can't give something back to you if you already have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidss007
You can still pick off collectors, you're just going to find less bases with their th out... collector may not be as full as they won't be building for twelve hours if the th was out...but they're not going away. So unless you're worried about trophies to, not a huge change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skippermark
So, basically this update will force us to make full, strong armies that take hours to make, therefore force us to use gems to attack effectively.
The new leagues bonuses aren't even increased that much, and now to get the full bonus you need to 70% it? I imagine what TH10's struggle will be now.
#NotGoingToUpgrade ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsZez
I think he means that he doesn't want the changes to happen that are coming soon. While you are correct, there have been some extremely negative reactions. Just bear that in mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsZez