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Is there any particular reason why Supercell cannot state what all of the new league bonuses will be? We only know about c1 to champs 3. This info might help calm the forum rage??

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Originally Posted by Rayzord

Sure, call me a troll.

Tell me one good reason to farm in lower leagues after the update.
No town hall snipes, no nothing(town hall snipes in beginning, but no loot after a certain point), constantly losing resources. Feeding off the dead bases. All loot will disappear eventually.

Think about it for a second. You might have fun in the beginning, taking advantage of all the resources down there and having a good time sniping TH's. What will happen when all the loot is gone? No more collector bases because no shield given for getting rid of the town hall.

Have fun then. You will have to push eventually. People like to call me a troll but they never think first.

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The town hall doesn't give a shield but 30% does to the dead bases...the dead bases that won't get 30% damage done probably weren't getting a shield in the first place cuz u could just pick off the collectors with a few archers. TH sniping won't remove loot down there since its only 4,000 win bonus. Lol

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Originally Posted by Krudler02

So far, with this update, I expect:
1 - League bonus loot creation will drop due to no more TH snipes and because league bonus is less then before if you don't get more then 70%
2 - All other loot creation will stay the same.
3 - We will lose more loot from attacks with the TH now giving up all 3 types of loot, and because we can't get free shields anymore by leaving TH outside. When we get attacked, it will be an attack where the person is trying to get more the 70% of our bases.
4 - Because we are defending real attacks always now, we will be spending a lot more re-arming our traps
5 - Because we will be trying to get more then 70% of other people's bases, we will build stronger more expensive armies - more loot out
6 - Because the build times for stronger more expensive armies are much much longer then gibarch or bam etc, we won't be able to attack as often during single sessions which will make it harder to get loot up to a point where it can be spent on an upgrade
7 - Since we can attack and still keep our shield now, up to 3 times likely if you are a dedicated attacker, there will be A LOT more trading loot between bases through attacks, but since we have to accumulate very large amounts to afford most upgrades, reaching your loot goal will become more difficult.
8 - Th10 vs Th10 could be a mess. A lot of the time if I'm attacking a TH10 with infernos, if I get 60% on the base I'm generally very happy. My heros are 20/20. All other troops and spells are more or less max. (Hero heal time is a big issue to in this scenario...), but my point is that 60% damage on a matchmaking attack won't get me a full league bonus....
9 - We may not have to hit next as much. That's a plus.

Am I missing the silver lining?

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I could be missing something, but I think your post basically hits things right on the head. One thing you overlooked was the effect these changes will have for top players (people gemming $100s and $1,000s a year). They are getting a buff on all counts: more trophies gained, more free time to raid (village guard 1-3 hours, and attack through shield), less trophies lost, and a HUGE buff in that they will have to be attacked at least once then they get a shield giving them a whole lot of free hours to raid again for trophies as they continue to gem their armies. I predict trophy counts will be in the 6,000 range before long, and while I believe SuperCell will lose net players, they will increase their revenues over the short run from their highest paying customers.

Since the bottom $$ line is what they really care about, this update will be considered a success. Then in around 1-2 years they will notice a significant drop in player population and not know why. After that they will have to make layoffs and the game will be dead within 2-3 more years tops, unless they realize that what they did in 2015 is causing their problems, and change accordingly.

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Originally Posted by WHYOWHY

This loot bonus is an insult to injury. 14000 gold on gold I in which majority of clashers exist. Are u kidding me? This is your significant increase. Spending hours to make an army to attack to get at least 30% damage with 50% of my army and get only 14000 as loot bonus and that too after getting 70% damage. What is wrong with you developers?

Coupled with the 6 mins interrupts after every three hours, shield on only 30% damage received and close to zero loot bonus. This is a disastrous update.

What they are gonna do is give 1 gem boost before or after update to calm the kiddies and artificially increase the available loot and when the boost is gone then the people are gonna feel SC sticking em.

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6 mins is only if you are attacked from the outset and get a large % done to you, if you do not get a shield you back into the game for 15 mins until you are again kicked for 6 mins...then if you get attacked and hit for a huge amount at that point then you can play normally, otherwise you are kicked for a third time after which if you are then not attacked for a huge amount you are free to play the game you way until you play for 3 hours again at which point that setup happens again.

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Originally Posted by mido101991

Hey guys it is time to put 70% in the corner lol

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love that, one of the only times I actually got a laugh while reading this thread.

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Originally Posted by hashtagbene

This whole update is ridicolous so far. This is barely Clash of Clans anymore. Might aswell change the name of the game

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Clash of cash grabbers would be my guess. Apparently all SC employees / DEV team are actually goblins worried more about their company loot purses.


On a unrelated note, I seen a thread that said that the CEO of SC said at clash con that this game would be around for another 10 years, the only reason for that is because that is approx the time it will take most of us to earn enough loot to get to th 11 let alone max it without rushing.

I would love to see a MOD or Youtubers ACTUAL thoughts on the update so far, not the garbage they HAVE to say enable to retain their positions within the COC community.

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Originally Posted by xtalx

Is there any particular reason why Supercell cannot state what all of the new league bonuses will be? We only know about c1 to champs 3. This info might help calm the forum rage??

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It only makes sense the higher leagues get more of a "significant" loot bonus and lower leagues get less bonus. If higher leagues get a pathetic bonus then there is a higher chance that the lower leagues get the same terrible or maybe even lower increase % in the bonus. Higher league players need more loot because they lose a lot more loot too on defense, that will not change post-update and they will lose even more than they are now because TH counts as a resource building and needs to be protected in order to get a shield. Lower leagues don't need a bigger bonus since there are more lower level town halls down there and those town halls lose less loot.

If SC decides to invert this and give bigger loot bonuses for lower leagues, which actually doesn't make any sense though it will certainly make a lot of people happy who are in the lower leagues, then the forum rage will calm down.
But then all the trophy pushers will cry and those people are the big spenders.

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Originally Posted by Burnt

This specific sneak peak is rather disheartening to me. I feel as though they've completely swung and missed with this. To claim that a 10% increase in league bonus loot is "significant" is just ridiculous and somewhat insulting to the overwhelming majority of clashers. Meanwhile the only way to obtain said "increase" is to go for near 3star attacks.

The part that's missing with this game is incentive to push higher. Why would anyone prefer to spend 100s of thousands in elixir and hours training troops just for an insignificant amount of extra loot? I for one will continue to sit in gold league and pound dead bases with barch attacks.

If you want people to climb the league ladder, make it worth the time and resources! Double....even triple the bonus loot for the upper tiers. Or how about daily quests? Give us a reason to log on multiple times per day. Quest: Destroy at least 90% of 3 bases in X League for XXX,000 reward....anything as simple as that.

By removing town hall sniping for bonus loot you're not encouraging anyone to climb, in fact you've done just the opposite. I feel as though most players will sit in the lower leagues just the same and continue to farm those dead bases as before. Big disappointment for me with this sneak peak.

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I like your idea of daily quests. That would be an interesting way to promote playing, infuse loot to the game, and keep things fresh.

Re: this 10% extra league bonus, I think 10% paints a little too rosy a picture. For instance in Crystal 1, the DE bonus goes from 300 to 320. That's only 6.66%. Plus, what does 20 units of DE really do?

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Originally Posted by ItsZez

The town hall doesn't give a shield but 30% does to the dead bases...the dead bases that won't get 30% damage done probably weren't getting a shield in the first place cuz u could just pick off the collectors with a few archers. TH sniping won't remove loot down there since its only 4,000 win bonus. Lol

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Who in there right mind uses 50% of their army to take out some collectors.

Please, come up with a better argument.

I'm reading all the people who are up in arms about the league bonus updates. It seems like overall the loot is going to be worse at crystal and up instead of better being that you need to get 70% to get the "greatly increased" extra 8% where as if you get 50% you get less than before. It seems like SC is trying to get people to move up but to me this sneak peak seems like it does the opposite. If loot bonus's get worse in Champions and above isn't it going to cause more people to move down and try to find better loot at lower levels since the bonus's are no longer worth it. What do you guys think?

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Originally Posted by SilentStorm

So now we lose even more loot in defenses?

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Instead we should focus on attacking

I don't see how people will progress anymore unless they are willing to constantly spend time in this game... I'm not seeing how a casual player can progress with all the 'costs' related to defending... This is a sad day for this game, I don't see this ending well, and I lived thru the hero adjustments....