Loot, League Bonuses and Trophy Offers <-- Discuss it HERE!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JoshSpakrs

I'm active player but after this 'shiny' update I cannot even imagine to hold more than ~20% resources. I will be raided quite often (due to I will not be able to get shield via TH, loot bonus reduced, etc.).

That is the reason why I'm really disappointed. I spent a quite big amount of time playing CoC (my bad) and I can see now that they are making exactly same bad changes as they did in Boom Beach before (=free loot reduction, limitations, blah blah blah).

---

But if someone want to attack you
And they want THE LOOT bouns they will use more than 50% army and try to get 50% or 70% and you will get the shield anyway

The real change now you must have great defense and strong ... this way you will protect your loot and get a shield ..
It is sounds easy or hard but we really should try it in action ..

Uhmm why won't league bonus barching work anymore? You get the same amount of loot as you always would since 50%=80% of new bonus and 80% new bonus=100% of last bonus. BTW give me examples of who will have a disadvantage/disadvantages with this new update and I will try my best to answer you and hopefully resolve your concerns. 😘

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Unfettered

Impossible - no. Improbably - yes (lol). Upgrades may take all of us sometime at all levels depending how fast the loot leaves (from defending) and how fast we can take more in (through attacking). If that equation is a zero sum game then most of us will not be upgrading anything fast anytime soon.

However, I suspect that upgrades will simply take a little longer with greater eye to prioritization.

---

this is the whole thing in a nut shell

these updates are geared to make the only place to be, THE BEST PLACE TO BE, is th11

but because of these changes it will only be possible to be th11 if you gem yourself to th11

and gem the defenses to max as a th11

they have set things into motion things that will only increase the need to gem

but there will be people who love to fail, the die hard who think its ok to spend 2 years to go up a level

and for those people I actually will have admiration for

but I will also sit there thinking how moronic are these guys!!!

this type of player will spend a year or 2 frustrated to prove something to no one

before these changes, serious gemming was around mid th8 and up they have

now made it so that you will have to gem from level 2 to th10

Ok most people maoning about Leagues bonuses.

Well please can you point in the direction were they Confirm and show what the new league bonus are? As its says on the devs desk these are "examples".

I can not see on that page that SC Confirmed what the new bonuses are going to be.


if you can well thats egg on my face :)

It gives people the drive to aim higher for loot bonus. They are forcing people to play the game as it's original intention was.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by AeroCloud

So lets sum this up...

Update #1: We don't want you to be able to manage your own shield and the ability to get cheap shields.

Update #2: We don't want you to interact with your clan and chat with them, this will deduct precious time from your 3 hour limit before your kicked off randomly for an undetermined amount of time, minimum 6 minutes up to 3 hours. We also want you to pay 10 gems once a day to get an additional 2 hours of playtime.

Update #3: We want you to think we are actually increasing the loot bonus, while you will rarely ever get the 70% destruction and if you do it will cost you more in troops/spells than their whole base plus the loot bonus are worth.

I don't even want to think about update #4 at this point. However there are ways this can be made better.


Lets be real for a minute here. If you want to keep people addicted to what currently pays your paycheck, I suggest you take ample time out of your day to read through the entire forum about all peoples concerns. If you feel you know better than your customer, you will soon find yourselves without customers. Remember customers are what pays you, you need to listen to them. You need to understand why they play your game, and if you change the basis of what they enjoy doing while playing your game, they soon wont be playing.


Solutions to Fix the problems with #1 through #3.

1) Reduce a Full War Armies Training Time down to 15 minutes maximum (Total Troops & Spells)
2) Reduce the cost of a war army by at least 50-60% if not more. Total Cost should be under 100k Elixir and 1k Dark Elixir
3) Allow People to stay online while they are forced to be attacked. You can disable attacking until they are attacked, but do not kick out of the game. Communication is KEY in Clan Wars, if you remove this ability, you will start to destroy your war clan community.

---

Dude, you have posted this nonsense before, you are NOT even trying to understand the changes and continue to make stuff up...

1. Your shield will be longer, you can manage it more now... Let it run out, or make some attacks on it too, how is this bad?

2. You don't understand PBT at all.... It's not random at all, it is very specific. 6 minutes off, 15 minutes on for up to twice, the third time you are kicked, after the 6 minutes your PBT is reset shield or no. So no, it's not even close to 3 hours offline time, you repeating this overblown misrepresentation again and again doesn't make it true.

3. You are correct here, the loot bonuses are probably at best slightly higher for big armies and lower for average armies, I wouldn't call this a significant loot bonus increase... However, more loot filled bases in the queue and some free attacks on the shield will help this a bit for the active attacking player with some idea how to get at some storages.

Your solutions ons are pretty reasonable, we have more updates coming, let's hope defense wins are addressed we still have massive trap rearming costs etc that are even more a burden now. A successful defense should give a percent of the league bonus to the defender. Also, any troops left alive after an attack should give back their cost to make back to the attackers storages since expensive time consuming armies for similar loot are going to be a drag on the economy, but more loot filled bases will offset that somewhat.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ItsZez

Uhmm why won't league bonus barching work anymore? You get the same amount of loot as you always would since 50%=80% of new bonus and 80% new bonus=100% of last bonus. BTW give me examples of who will have a disadvantage/disadvantages with this new update and I will try my best to answer you and hopefully resolve your concerns. ��

---

Wrong, 80% of the new bonus is NOT 100% of current bonus

Masters 2 current bonus: 120k/120k/700
Masters 2 new bonus @ 50%: 108k/108k/592
Masters 2 new bonus @ 70%: 135k/135k/740

That's as much (or more looking at dark) of a "significant" decrease at 50% as their "significant" increase for getting 70%...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cryptonic

It gives people the drive to aim higher for loot bonus. They are forcing people to play the game as it's original intention was.

---

IKR haha

Just reinstalled the game and I am in master3. So best get used to it up here

cheap quick armies wont work to well anymore, heavy push armies will be needed to get the loot, they better decrease training and brewing time especially since we have to defend more often now. Hope they arent trying to get us to gem more.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by b121774

cheap quick armies wont work to well anymore, heavy push armies will be needed to get the loot, they better decrease training and brewing time especially since we have to defend more often now. Hope they arent trying to get us to gem more.

---

Trust me, as a profit oriented greedy company, thats EXACTLY what they are trying to do