Loot, League Bonuses and Trophy Offers <-- Discuss it HERE!

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Originally Posted by NewDamage

Bigger win bonuses? From where? I'm not sure what TH you are, but good luck consistantly getting the required 70% destruction on an decent TH10. On some you will be lucky to even get a win bonus at all. Even for a 50% win, you will be getting less than you get now.

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You took it out of context, there will be more players pushing higher and more players being kicked offline to be attacked because of PBT. Technically the win bonus is getting bigger, it just wont be bigger for the weaker attackers.

Im agree, its seems will be harder for farm now,and also hard for keep the loots. Now people need to use better troops for farming,and put th inside will also cost us the attackers hit others storage inside the bases.and with the new systems that we only can play 3 hours a day and get 6 minutes time out i think we cant hold the loots for long time and cant get loots fast like what used to we have now. And combine with shield and VG update my conclusion is if we have gems to buy shield,its more saver and more faster for farming . Several of my clan mates thinking about retirement after updates launch since they said its unrealistic anymore.

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Originally Posted by JDPetrillo

These are my unbiased thoughts without any emotions.

#1. League bonus is now rewarded based on percent of damage, from 0% to 70% damage. The key benchmarks are 0%, 50% and 70% damage as follows:

• 0% damage rewards 0% of league bonus
• 50% damage rewards 80% of league bonus
• 70% damage rewards 100% of league bonus

In addition to those key benchmarks, the scale for everything in-between them works as follows:

• You earn 1.6% of league bonus for each 1% of damage starting at 1% through 50% damage
• You earn 1.0% of league bonus for each 1% of damage starting at 51% through 70% damage

​Here are some real life scenarios and the outcome:

• ​You attack a base and do 20% damage. You will be rewarded 32% of league bonus.
• You attack a base and do 65% damage. You will be rewarded 95% of league bonus.
• ​You snipe a town hall and only do 2% damage. You will be rewarded 3.2% of league bonus.

As you can see in the last example, town hall sniping is officially dead now. As an attacker, you will only receive a very small fraction of the league bonus for a town hall snipe. As a defender, many people are now persuaded to protect their town hall. The end result is outside town halls will be few and far between, because most people moved them inside, and the league bonus received for a town hall snipe will not be sufficient to cover the cost of Next'ing. R.I.P. town hall snipes; it was fun.

#2. Based on screenshots within the release notes, league bonuses appear to have increased by approximately 12%. For example, 100% league bonus for Champions III is now 200,000. It was 180,000 previously. This is not a "significant" increase, in my opinion. In fact, some can argue league bonuses have been significantly decreased because now it takes a lot more than it used to in order to earn 100% of league bonus payout.

My comments here are strictly based only on the screenshot within the developers notes, which shows a 200,000 league bonus for Champions III. To the best of my knowledge, this hasn't been officially confirmed and its possible "real" league bonus can be different for better or for worse once the update hits. I will update this section if I receive confirmation of new league bonus values. For now, I'm assuming 12% increase based on the screenshot provided.

#3. The way forward for farmers, in my opinion, will be a new strategy to push as high in trophies as possible where you can consistently receive 100% of league bonus by consistently doing at least 70% damage. You will want to be as high in trophies as possible in order to get the most league bonus, but you will want to make sure you can do at least 50% damage and aim for 70% damage consistently.

#4. As a farmer, aiming to do at least 50% to 70% damage every attack means a few things:

• More time spent training stronger armies
• More resources spent training stronger armies
• Less raids per day

Say for example a person has 6 hours per day to farm. A larger percentage of that person's time will now be spent waiting for armies to train and therefore squeezing in less raids than before during that same 6 hour window, especially with the PBT that will also kick you out at least once during that 6 hours.

In my view, going forward farmers will not raid as frequently as they do now, but their raids will (should) net more loot than they do currently. However, will these fewer high loot raids be enough to offset the cost of less raids per day and more expensive armies? That's my question.

If I can currently make 1,000,000 in resources today during a 6 hour timeframe with many small raids, will I still be able to make 1,000,000 in resources after update during the same 6 hour timeframe with fewer but bigger raids? I know Supercell is good at finding a balance, but I'm concerned about this one.

Its still possible that Supercell will give us more gold mines and collectors, another barracks to train faster, lower training time for certain troops, more spell factories, etc. I know some of these sound like a stretch and I might be going out on a limb, but trying to remain optimistic and hoping for the best.

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Originally Posted by Oswin

Im agree, its seems will be harder for farm now,and also hard for keep the loots. Now people need to use better troops for farming,and put th inside will also cost us the attackers hit others storage inside the bases.and with the new systems that we only can play 3 hours a day and get 6 minutes time out i think we cant hold the loots for long time and cant get loots fast like what used to we have now. And combine with shield and VG update my conclusion is if we have gems to buy shield,its more saver and more faster for farming . Several of my clan mates thinking about retirement after updates launch since they said its unrealistic anymore.

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So before hand when people were going for win bonus they weren't going for 50%? Also it isn't like you NEED 70% to profit with armies...Supercell will balance this if it is unbalanced. They aren't going to let the game die and there is a reason testing and balancing took so long for this update.

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Originally Posted by Yharo

Guys u get 80 pct of bonus on a 50 pct attack.

Some people here need to learn how to read.

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My thoughts exactly. Once the details of the update began to be disclosed, I have read nothing but misinformation and confused complaints. I am done wasting my time reading these threads.

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• Available loot percentage on Town Hall levels 6 through 10 has been slightly increased
• Multiplayer targets one Town Hall level lower are now worth slightly less loot to attackers

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So If I am right, the loot penalty for attacking lower th is increased?

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Originally Posted by ariftwister

So If I am right, the loot penalty for attacking lower th is increased?

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Yes, that is correct.

Anyone who believes that looting will be as easy post update has not read and understood the sneak peek. The short version is in order to get the same loot you will now have to cook war arms to farm with.. More bases available due to new shield mechanic is irrelevant to that cost.. Love to see someone here hit an on level max TH9 or 10 and get 70% with anything but a war army. Shattered attacks at th9 will spend 1350 DE just on the two golems(at lvl4), and TH10s even more. Assuming that there is no adjustment to troop cost this is just ridiculous..

This update IS NOT ABOUT the player, its about new revenue streams for softbank.. New shield system will reduce nexting and therefore reduce server load(cutting cost to softbank at our expense). The new loot system is engineered to stop tier one troop farming as well as TH sniping..period. No players asked for this and it is clearly designed to increase gem spending, again at the cost of the players and to the benefit of SoftBank. This is why NONE OF THIS WAS ANNOUNCED AT CLASH-CON! ..had any of this been for the player SC or SoftBank would have gladly touted it at clash con. This is all very simple, as stated before, this is a simple cash grab, nothing more, nothing less.

If you read the dishonesty in the sneak peek announcement(Example: Significant Loot Bonus increase=2-12%, I think SC/SoftBank's message to all of us becomes clear. They do not value or even respect us as customers.

Just to show how dumb it is to complain this soon I want to give you an example of how easy this is to fix. Supercell adds level 13 collectors at town hall 9...problem solved.

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Originally Posted by ItsZez

You took it out of context, there will be more players pushing higher and more players being kicked offline to be attacked because of PBT. Technically the win bonus is getting bigger, it just wont be bigger for the weaker attackers.

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No, not taken out of context at all. Why are we all pushing again? The higher up you go, the more likely you are to get smashed by someone pushing. The fact is that having a percentage based loot bonus means potentially less of a bonus from every single attack ESPECIALLY in the higher leagues. Forget about the technicality of the system, think about it in practice.

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Originally Posted by ItsZez

Just to show how dumb it is to complain this soon I want to give you an example of how easy this is to fix. Supercell adds level 13 collectors at town hall 9...problem solved.

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Solves absolutely nothing