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So far this is only thing I dont like about sneak peaks. Punish players who can attack for long periods of time force me to take a break after 3 hrs. I believe that sc can tell if you are actively attacking or just tapping the screen so you can stay online so you dont get attacked. Oh yeah I forgot I could buysomething to protect my base. This is why all the changes are coming its not for our benefit its all about sc making more MONEY!!!!!! Greed = death of coc
how?? its only available for 15 min after the shield is down. so if your kid ask to go to pee within that 15 min thats good lol or buy 2 hr.. its not like it will be on a pause when you are online. or am i missing something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skrags
I have a scenario. Would like an explanation please.
I (th9)drop down to silver league. I log on for 10 mins, do an attack, log off.
Nobody attacks me for 20 mins.
I log on for 10 mins, do an attack, log off.
Nobody attacks me for 20 mins.
I log on for 10 mins, do an attack, log off.
Another 20 mins pass n nobody attacks me.
Is my PBT at 30 mins since I logged on for a cumulative 30 mins in a span of 90 mins?
Confused :|
Like i said yesterday regarding shields, your taking an easy to u derstand simple shield/personal break system and making it overly complicated...and "complex" according to dev in announcement.
This reminds me of the stupid housing bubble ♥♥♥♥ that happened in usa a few years ago with variable mortgage rates.
Yaaaaaay im good at math lets use said math to do stupid unrewarding garbage, confuse many people while stealing their money.
Sounds about right to me.
Sometimes i play for four or five hours straight, in order to make a profit.
Those days are gone.
RIP FARMING
well sir, they are out of innovation... so instead of being creative & making the game more interesting & then making money they have resorted to taking away things & trying to make money...Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroCloud
I agree 100% with this threadQuote:
Originally Posted by DemonReach
Maybe I missed this, if so, I apologize but I'm wondering if the village guard time will reset every time you go back online (up to three hours)? Or does it work like a timer that keeps going down every time you aren't online until it expires.
An example, if I boost my barracks for two hours, am I safe under village guard to go offline for just under 15 minutes every time my troops train, or would that only work once and then Village guard expires? Thanks for clarifying.
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Originally Posted by Anoushka[Supercell]
This update seems ridiculous so far. What could have possibly been wrong with our current shield system? Most players either farm or trophy hunt and thats been working out pretty great so far for you supercell, but changing the shields will surely cause people to play this game less. Hope you have a couple of nice surprises because this is a huge disappointment so far.
One thing could be better, after 3hours we could be attacked online. Why? Warring we are online to help members watch live attacks and so on. Imagine you are watching the last decisive attack than ur kicked out for personal break... Won't be nice.
What's funny is that they used to say opting in and out for clan wars was too complex for the everyday player so it wouldn't be implemented. Now they decide to come out with this new shield, village guard, PBT extravaganza that makes opting in and out look like kindergarten math.Quote:
Originally Posted by btcc1721
Just so I'm clear.....the aptly named 'Personal Break Time' is designed solely with our welfare in mind?
But we can carry on if we buy some gems......:smirk: Phew...
I'm looking for your defence here guys.....looking real hard.....can't see it yet...but it must be here somewhere....:facepalm:
♥♥♥♥... i cant really get over that 3 hr cumulative gameplay ,wao yehhh this is boom beach . lolQuote:
Originally Posted by cmrb56
yes sir. You got it right. And you'll be kicked after playing for another 150 mins.Quote:
Originally Posted by XxChaos09xX
You missed the line in between "The Rich must go on... Rich dont need breaks"Quote:
Originally Posted by Holps
Yap u want people to play more often.....dont kick them offline more often, which is what you are proposing....terrible idea.
You have an amazing game due to its simplicity and the ability to play casually. Thats why you have so many players.....take that away and you know what your gonna get? Less players.
In turn that means less money for you supercell, tell all your algorithm mathmeticians and numeroligists to apply a bit of common sense to theyre new system and you will see what i say is true.
You will lose players over this supercell.
I just dont understand the logic that goes into these sorts of game breaking updates. We have a winner so lets change the basic fundamental foundation of that game so that it no longer resembles the same game at all........♥♥♥?
I have seen this before, i started playing clash when the last game i played....arcane legends, started doing these game breaking, cash grabbing updates. Needless to say i quit playing that game and played this instead, might be time to move on again.
Sad day
Anyone else notice the distinct lack of defence from Mods and Specialists for this? They were quite rightly here yesterday regularly trying to explain a sensible change which was badly received.......
Those guys are normal, decent Clashers and I am interested to see how they explain this one. I suspect even they are wondering how to sell Ice to Eskimos
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Originally Posted by AeroCloud
Agree!!!!!! Amen.
So freaking confusing. Overcomplicating the simplicity of clash, but I kind of get the idea...(I think.)
I need coffee!
So if u attack under VG that cancels it?
If you had actually read the thread about it you'd know ♥♥♥♥. It was one of the main pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jombomb
Very implausible scenario, but yes, after 3 hours of logging off and logging in and not getting attacked once your personal break timer would force you off for a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by kisika
This is very confusing and I don't understand why a game that is universally played needs to have confusing aspects injected into it. If anything, the simplicity is a key selling point for getting people to play. Automatic village guard? So....a longer shield with a new name -- just for more confusion? Holy hell.
Hahahaha exactly my thoughtsQuote:
Originally Posted by Holps
With all of the various shielding options now available they have to kick people off or there will be no one to attack. Im thinking about the Titan 1 and Legend. Aren't they always in the clouds anyways? Now all of their unshielded time will be covered by village guard time? Wont that make high level attacking worse, not better? Or will they just see more lower league players now?Quote:
Originally Posted by aarrgggggg
Changes for that are coming soon, only SC knows what that will mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbug
Very excited about the goodies coming up in this update :cool: C'mon clashers listen to all the sneak peaks before you judge, this update is going to be epic.
Please answer this question guys!
1.what if i get kicked after 3 hours,log in after 1 hour but i havent been attacked? Can i play 3h again? And exactly,how much time must pass,(without loging in) so i can play 3h again if i dont get attacked
I dont want to start new threads about this so please respond.
Thanks
I just read the VG post, i really can't believe you have the audacity to tell us using th snipes isn't fair play. Unfair play is spying, ghosting, using bots, everything else was smart clashing. Furthermore, it looks like VG only applies to high leagues? ♥♥♥
I really hope hope you reconsider these impacts to you non hard core, unlimited free time players. I never play during the day because I have a REAL and DEMANDING job, this destroys my ability to save.
Epic in your wallet bro... Get prepareeeeee!!:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by CherokeeScout
I'll use figures to represent this forecast so that even the mentally challenged praising and hailing this coming update can understand.
What SC expects from these changes:
Attachment 145921
What is actually going to happen:
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if my shield expires by me attacking (for example, i have 1 hour shield left, then i attack)
will i get a 15min VG?
15 minutes is nothing. my guess is 80% of the players are in the lower leagues. SC is trying to push everyone into the upper leagues where gemming is needed to stay. I like the basic idea, but the shield for lower levels is too short and this update is not two sneak peeks in and I don't like either one. TH 11 and upgraded troops will not affect anyone except the 1% maxed th10's. More gemming for the top to stay at the top. I have spent only $20 on this game and they are not going to get another cent. May have to switch to one of the clones.
Even the fan boi's can't defend this today. Embarassing, Softbank.
Mr. Masayoshi Son - YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED
Guys, ♥♥♥♥♥♥cell won't listen to your feedback. They only care about $$ this is why they are coming up with this garbage update. I am really disappointed. ya, I know this is just a second sneak peak but this garbage shield system is more than enough to be depressed about. Very few care about TH 11 as am sure less than 1% of the players are fully maxed out TH 10
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Originally Posted by Tiranonium
ahahahahhaha... show!
Everyone has an own opinion.. but we will see.., my trophy base fits very good with that system but I won't tell anything about that, I want to win defense ;) and that before any announce 😂😂 but yes.. more people will spend money to play, that's the intension of SC.. but me not, I have enough gems and don't pay for a free time game I want to have fun with!
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Originally Posted by manosnta
Nobody knows .. these rules are too damn complicated to figure out .. somebody forgot to just keep it simple..
/Affront
Not all bad but seems like a money grab to me as well. I play everyday and I regularly purchase gems to boost my troops on my 4 accounts for 4 hrs at a time in the evenings and weekends to gain enough loot for an upgrade. Guess not anymore, 2 hrs alone does not cut it to collect 6 million or so in loot needed. Everyone needs to boycott the new clan guard purchase if it goes forward. Forcing people to buy gems to protect what they worked for is just plain wrong. By reading the posts in this thread I see I am not alone in my opinion. If you want to increase revenue just raise the gem price slightly. Time will tell... may just have to start playing something else
The one thing I'm lost on is PBT a time bank or a timer? It sounds like a time bank which counts any online time (or offline with VG active) and while it is zero you can't play. But I'm not entirely sure.
Then you have three conditions to make it three hours again.
1. Gain a shield (get hit for 30% by 50% of your troop potential)
2. Be Offline without VG for 3 hours
3. The Mercy Rule (last three 6-minute periods and two 15-minute breaks in between to reset traps and CC troops and the like). The 6-minute periods end if you are raided and don't receive a shield.
Some potential problems I see are quitting right before PBT is up and then coming before 3 hours are up and having to deal with the Mercy Rule shortly thereafter. Including wiping out your VG after the first or second 6-minute period during the Mercy Rule Check and ending up wasting more time. I didn't see it as part of this but removing your VG on purpose should subtract that amount of time from your PBT if it doesn't already. At least during the Mercy Rule Checks anyway.
I'm not sure how this effects the game down low. I don't see it coming into play for me too often. Maybe if I'm playing a lot on my day off. The only time I've ever seen the Personal Break rule come into effect for me was when I was unemployed.
Agree with you there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiranonium
My entire clan boicote buy gems! No more money from us...!
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
So why, oh why, nobody at sc comes out of the bunker and explains what's going on? C'mon guys, are you stupid or are you idiots? Yesterday's update made people unhappy, today's update made people raging! Maybe a lot of people will quit or maybe not, but getting everyone to yell against you is not really a good marketing move to me...
I'm quite disappointed too tbh...but they have listened to their players before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shellcoder
cmom supercell we waited a lot for this "october update" and all we got this far is a bunch of rules! where's the sneek PICKS ? where's the new stuff?
Yesterday I was assuming the Village Guard would be some new defense hero, which would make it worth while to defend your base. Adding another entertaining aspect to the game encouraging me to play and get more involved. (instead of letting your TH be sniped).
Oops, shouldn't have thought that. It's just a blatant cash grab...
Quit being a self entitled dbag! How about you try that? Oh wait nevermind you are a stockbroker who apparently thinks the world owes your self inflated ego something. Don't you have something better to do such as robbing people for everything they have saved?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag1983
The announcement is a little confusing, but if you read way down, it basically says:Quote:
Originally Posted by CD722
If you use up your 3 hours, you get a 6 minute break. If no one attacks or gives a weak attack and you don't get a shield, you get a village guard and can attack for 15 minutes, followed by another 6 minute time out.
If you end up having 3 6 minute breaks (followed by 3 15 minute attacks) and you don't get a shield or no one attacks, the 3 hour timer resets.
Basically, after 3 hours of play, you can only play on and off for an hour, but that's probably not possible anyway because you need to have time for your troops to train, so in reality, you're getting a break to do things like eat something, go to the bathroom...
If you get kicked (as in your PBT goes to literal zero) and you are never raided this is what will happen. You will wait 6 minutes (where you can't log in) and then receive a 15 minute boost to your VG and PBT in which time you can clear your collectors and make a raid or two or stay offline during this, it doesn't matter. Then this will happen again. 6 minutes (where you can't log in) waiting to be raided followed by 15 minutes of VG and PBT. Then you are open to another 6 minute window for attacking where you can't log in. After this you will gain 3 hours of PBT where you can play again. This is referred to as the Mercy Rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by manosnta
It's worth noting that if you are raided during one of those 6 minute periods and you don't get a shield you skip ahead to the VG/PBT boost.
If you are off for 6+15+6+15+6=48 minutes you will be able to log in with no problem and a fresh 3 hours of PBT to play with.
1 , it seems the bottom line is bring more bases into play, trying to force bases into been attcked therefore people may use gems when they get frustrated of been raided and not been able to save enough for upgrades.
2, use gems to protect your base , in the end the bottom line is more revenue for supercell.
How unfortunate for the casual player , bravo supercell!
As a damn near max TH10 i must say this utterly ridiculous cash grab for shields is horrible and after being disappointed yesterday I learned not too jump too conclusions too early with SC but sheeeesh you really just killed the game for the casual player and i spend money and i still see myself as casual you wont be getting another dollar from me I promise you that not as if you need it anyway i don't care if you give me heros for war or not your compony make billions of dollars and you still gotta stick it too us smh
Let me sum up the first post for you guys in very short version.
Be an Titan 1 + or be screwed. That's pretty much what goin to happen.
while the shield change did not very much welcomed by bearable for refreshing, but this personal brake and an joke guard in low league is simply will be an pain in the butt.
LOL when did that happen? Cause from what I recall there have been like a million threads with hunderds of replies each asking for heroes to be available in war and they just ignore them. I havent seen ONE TIME that they actually did sth that would result in us spending less gems. If you tell me one time Ill agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radiating
there's a reason the two crappiest updates came out first. get them out of the way and you'll be a little more excited for the new changes.
it's ignorant to base your opinion of this update on two updates regarding shields (and honestly, most of you won't even care about it... it won't even change your game play)
I love to boost back to back when I have the time... While I get why SuperCell is reducing the online 'shieldless-time' (ahem-bunny-ahem-farmers-ahem) I will miss those four hour runs while I watch college football on Saturday. Such is life... on the plus side I will spend less on gems for boosting. :smirk:
If its more attacking you're wanting to encourage, great- but how bout lowering the training time of some of these troops and spells? You're typically looking at an hour or better to compose an army.......
dont get it yet? The update is for the fanboys and cash cows in the top of the ladder ..... Rest is not important to SC.... We just the meat for they cash cowsQuote:
Originally Posted by Talis
Well done ♥♥♥♥♥♥cell for killing your own game with this stupid update.
No one has been asking for this stuff.. where are quest or upgrading heroes in war...
instead all we get is an update trying to force us to spend more gems.
RIP
Okay, I applaud the concept of the timer as a way to fight the bots. It's needed. However, the one thing that really bothers me is that you might get locked out of the game completely and not be able to make war attacks because of some timer. I get the concept and think in principle that it is fine, but it is complete ♥♥ that you might not be able to make a war attack. As leader of my clan I spend a lot of time helping new players, reviewing attacks, providing feedback, etc. All online time that has nothing to do with raiding. Also I spend a fair amount of time sizing up a base before committing. I have literally looked at a base for 20 minutes to visualize all of the steps in an attack before committing and it's complete ♥♥ to think that I could be thrown off in the middle of prepping a crucial war attack. Especially for top seeded players in the clan who typically hold their last war attack until literally the last few minutes so we know strategically the best place to target. Along those lines sometimes players actively farm to help get the resources to fill war CC during prep day. Also, if I'm in the middle of trying to mentor a junior player it would really suck if all of a sudden I get the boot.
Does this online timer count for all time online or just online without a shield? My impression is that it's just the latter. But it's really confusing and could be hard to manage. I don't quite get how the village idiot, err guard plays into this if you need to get on to make a war attack. It says I can buy village idiot time with gems but if the game doesn't let me on, how do i get to the shop?
This issue is especially relevant for clans that are farm/war hybrids like ours. I think there should be some consideration for war built into this personal timer.
I would strongly suggest the following to the developers:
1. No one can be booted during the last hour of preparation day.
2. No one can be booted during the last hour of the actual war/battle day.
3. Players being forced to take a personal break have a change in clan symbol so others in the clan know what's happened.
It would greatly simplify a lot of issues while still maintaining the whole concept of personal breaks.
I feel the need to remind everyone that Titan league players are less than 1% of the total account population. But... they are also the most active, spend the most money "per capita", and complain the most, so ♥♥♥♥♥♥¢ell is pandering to them, hard. ♥♥♥♥♥♥¢ell is adversely impacting >99% of their player base to positively impact <1%. Someone over at ♥♥♥♥♥♥¢ell forgot to actually do some analysis to see that the 99% spends way more money than the whiners in Titan league and above.
#occupy♥♥♥♥♥♥¢ell
I'd add another solution... you can be 'online' for donations and war viewing, but still be attacked. why does it matter if you can see your village or not during an attack?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunthar
Can't read the whole sneak post yet because as soon as I saw GEMS to play I went numb
F2P goes to P2PP
If I'm wrong I'll work it out
I used to play a Facebook game(nitrous Racing) it was amazing, great forum great chat.Basically the same concept of COC
You challenged an opponent and could win win 20-50 million per race challenge ( non animation)and revenge for double( they even bought out an insurance that if you got beat you tripled your loss)cost real£ but not as expensive as this game is
It was getting to the point where it competed with Mafia wars/farmville and all other fb games
One day we went to revenge a 50 million defeat and got back 17k.
They changed the WHOLE concept of what made the game great OVERNIGHT(it lasted 11 months then died)
Now if Supercell are going to change the whole concept of what attracted millions to play this game overnight, then this will happen to clash
I know there's more to come but we know a few snippets of that IE ,TH11, new hero, larger map, ETC
But be careful supercell if you change basic and make it complex or how this seems to be heading" Totally Different Game" then believe GAMERS when they say your changing things we don't need/want/like
You may have the best business heads in the app industry, but it's the GAMERS that play not the PR guru..
Awaits tomorrow's GEM peek
Still won't judge as I can't quite grasp the puzzle, but your gambling by changing a bit more than many may think is necessary..
And as I think was Holps said
The mods were chipping in every 5th post, as of today nothing.
THIER stuck in a meeting having this explained so they can understand it,(and they were told 2-4 weeks ago)
I think i have to play with this upgrade a few times before I know all the pros en consQuote:
Originally Posted by Anoushka[Supercell]
I was going to say the opposite. Those in the upper tiers will get a 3 hour guard that'll let them loot and train troops without fear of getting attacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by elpedro
Those of us in champions and below only get a 15 minute guard, so if we want to train troops without getting attacked, we'll have to buy a guard.
In anything above Crystal 3, you pretty much get attacked as soon as you go offline, so this change doesn't really benefit anyone if they're hoping to play for a couple hours straight. They're still going to have to keep their screens on for a long period of time and keep reloading the game or touch the screen to prevent it from disconnecting them.
Not saying it's good or bad, just saying it's not much different for lower level players.
It's not exactly ignorant. It's slightly ignorant, yes, but SC has just killed off one of the fundamentals of farming and implemented some overly confusing feature that is going to likely result in profit for them. Unless you're going to make some major change to make the players happy (which they won't, it's likely going to be something minor to retain some naysayers), then IMHO the opinions are just.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feldhouse
To be fair, I'm sure after this update there will be at least 2% of players in Titans league.Quote:
Originally Posted by DemonReach
So your example is roughly 50% incorrect.
Keep fighting.
This is a reasonable point. However, it ignores one important question.Quote:
Originally Posted by CriPpLeR
if there is no wide reaching impact, what is the point of making the change?
A very interesting update - not sure if this is one for the benefit of players or supercells coffers (call me a cynic).
You get kicked after a shorter period of game time (3hrs) :(, that is a benefit for the players. I'm sure a number of players will be happy with that and if you want your base to be secure/protected you can spend gems on a temporary shield called village guard :unsure: which lasts 2 hours. Current system allows for at least 6 hrs online game time before being kicked and no requirement to spend money on gems.
Seems like the proposed changes are not for a fairer system to allow those the opportunity to attack bases whom have not been able to get revenge etc... because the original attacker was cute in putting their town hall outside of their base to pick up a shield, incidentally this part of the game will disappear.
All in all, the update will encourage activity? Surely not if players have 3 hour game time windows.
Looking forward to the changes. ;)
They should allow to buold quicker armies... i mean, personal breaks are now reached quicker (3 hours instead of 6) so they should allow us to do more with less time! They wanna see more attacks n defends?? Cut the army training time n you will definetly get more!
Why exactly are they making these changes? To me, this is getting too complicated. I enjoy this game and all, but come on Supercell, what are you doing?!
Don't just boycott buying gems, boycott even using free gems on the clan guard. Use them on other stuff just nothing directly related to this update. I forsee someone loosing a job at SC. The idea is great but it is greedy for a company already making millions that would continue to force this on everyone. SC is not the big oil companies where purchases are a necessity and they can do and say what ever they want, we play out of choice. Please repost boycott suggestion everywhere if you agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Genbu
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Originally Posted by Mistermind
Thanks, it's now clearer what happens. The 'Mercy' rule is effectively a way to force your way back into continuous play by forcing you to endure 3 annoying logout login 15min/6min sessions.
sounds like its going to be worse in titans for finding bases. Glad I'm not up there. I bet there will be a tone of people buying the village guards and hunting for bases up there.
I have a hard time playing 6 hours..... not opposed to moving it to 3, but would rather see it go to 4.
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Originally Posted by Gunthar
the funny thing is the bunnies and mods / bots will find a way around this too... the normal players and genuine addicts will get fed up...
Excuse me? I never attacked you. I commented on the company who runs the game we both play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warp3dM1nd
You can pretend to know what may or may not be my job, but instead you just come across as an ignorant fool.
I expect the people who run my hobby to be competent. Sorry you don't feel the same.
Personally I think this whole situation is being blown out of all proportion. When you actually look at the facts the longest you will be offline for is 18 minutes spread over three six minute periods, is this really that bad? You all chastise using 10 gems to be able to be online for a further 2 hours but is that really any difference to using 10 gems to boost your spell factory or barracks??
And what about the plus sides no-one has really considered these, there will be a lot more bases available to attack with more loot available, and you wont get punished for stepping away from your device for a short period of time. We have no knowledge of tomorrows loot bonus changes and everyone is making this out to be the end of COC when in essence it may be the injection it needs to get people attacking more. More attacks actually means more loot in the system from win bonuses so this really isn't as bad as people are making it out to be.
So racking my brains to find other names starting with V G other than village guard.
Heres a few.
Vicious Gemming.
Vulnerable Gamers.
Vexed Gameplay..
what are your suggestions.
Im just having a joke here. Honestly i need to see how it all works and what the entire update is before i can decide on my final thoughts on the changes.
Defenseless bases are stupid. Spend some of your precious RSS on some defenses if u want to keep them. That is kinda the point of this update, to weed out dumb ♥♥♥♥ like defenseless bases.Quote:
Originally Posted by CD722
I dont get all the vitrol about the VG gem boost.... dont you get about 10 FREE gems a day with obstacles anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nopeudon
Amen to that....Quote:
Originally Posted by Deckard
I hope all this complicated garble was not only being implemented to combat b.o.t.t.i.n.g, if so there was a much easier and simpler solution....every 2 hours we all get a popup asking us to enter a captcha, wouldve been much easier without the drastic changes
Quality!!! Spot on!XDQuote:
Originally Posted by GERaid
Well, at least now we know why SC "failed" providing information about the update in clash con.
People would have burned clash con to the ground! It was for everyone's safety.
You keep using this word "fair" in your sneak peeks when describing the upcoming shield changes. It's as if you think it will actually mean something if you write it enough times.
Well I hate to tell you supercell, but it will not. You claim you are making all these changes to the shield to be "fair" yet you're giving those who are in the top most leagues exponentially more village guard time then those who are mere 'champions' and below. You are also making it harder for those who have recently started playing or are developing from early TH 9 and below to actually develop a decent base with substantial defenses. Those low experienced and less developed players are going to get wrecked by those who are maxed TH 9&10 hiding down in gold and lower leagues. All likely without the use of a single spell.... Or even close to half of the use of their full army cap. Which brings me to my next point: the no shield rule pertaining to the attacking skill of a player with respect to their army composition.
I know clashers, and myself have been attacked by some, who could literally barch 40% or more of a well designed and defensive base. What makes you think that a base, that is trying to "fairly" defend, that gets wrecked and most or all of available loot stolen from an attacker, NOT getting a shield simply because the attacker didn't use half of their army capacity is fair?! 'Cause it's not.....
I could continue on with my concerns for the future quality of the game and fairness of it all. But I hope that I have alright made my point.
So i leave you with this: when using the word "fair" to describe one's actions, one must actually attempt to BE fair. Lol. But what you are doing, supercell, is catering to the absolute top players in clash and those who are gemmers(buy gems) aka people who throw money at you guys so they can try and buy their way to the top of the leaderboards.😂👌🏻 Which is fine by me, but don't claim you are trying to make the game more fair.... When many of us clashers know good and well you're lying. 👍🏼🎅🏻
Very complicated update so far, can't help feeling (at this early stage) that there are some contradictions here.
On one hand the easy shields from TH outside have gone. To compensate (balance) there is a village guard, personal break system and other stuff.
Some of this is tiered to league level; Titans getting the longest break.
This is to encourage or balance (that word again) fairer attacking and defending.
However, should you wish to bypass all this fairness and balancing stuff, why - just go to the store and buy some gems!
Yeah, right!
I get it when Supercell makes minor changes to something we didn't ask for, but all of the shield changes were totally unasked for. As the sneak peeks go on and on, I keep feeling that Supercell just wants our money.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClashwithNaufal
What the eff .......
This is getting very complex
Very confused right now
You guys are just making the very complicated
Yup, this is my biggest concern so far. I usually use the same boost schedule and this would kill it for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZTmax3k
Hopefully they do 5 gem / 1 hour boost options so folks can more finely schedule their time to the game (and work within this new PBT).
Only thing else that nags at me is how VG scales with the leagues (for the free VG). Seems like Champs get the shaft here. I get that Champions league isn't as hard to get to as it used to be, but you still ought to get a longer VG than someone in Bronze league. :/ Not angry about this really yet, will hold out hope that the league bonus info revealed tomorrow includes an increase at Champions league to offset the lack of an increased VG.
All I can say is, once this all is released, I just hope it doesnt end up affecting things as much as it sounds like it will. The way I play now its simple; log in, collect stuff, attack, train more troops, log off, sniped, shielded and I log back in once troops are ready (or when I have time) and just repeat. There is no super math and planning involved...and I don't want there to be... most of us have lives and planning for war prep, attacks and helping out with the clan donations are already plenty to manage in this game.
I get reducing the TH sniping incentive, but this weird new complicated shield mechanic, I just dont follow the reasoning.
CLASH OF CLANS,
come with some money... or leave in defeat!
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Originally Posted by SuperR0ck
You deserve all sorts of cookies for this one 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 right on point tho lol
I'm still excited to experience the new game play when it comes out. It will either make me play more, less or stop.
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Originally Posted by AeroCloud
The shield changes were necessary. You can't seriously think the game was meant to be played with your Town Hall on the outside, with folks riding shields all the time, did you? From the moment I started playing this game, over a year ago, this was the one thing I always figured was "too good to last". Surprised it wasn't resolved long long ago, but I get that there's some complexity to it, it's not as simple as just making your TH not give a shield, there had to be some "give" to go with that big of a "take".Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh77
Personally, other than the free VG at Champions league being kind of insulting, I'll hold out judgement overall until tomorrow when the league/loot bonus sneak peek is revealed. Hoping that sheds some more light on their thinking of the future of farming in Clash of Clans.
I really didn't think the shield system was broke...
this forum must be the ocean cuz it is salty as he11
Just farming last 50 magmas in masters. aq 6 healer, 3 wb, 24 arch with 3 rage, 2 jump, and poison if I need spells. Poor th9s with the new update will get no shield, but this is what I've used for months. Train up twice those and have the next wave in que in the racks and I can attack 3 times, log off, come back in an hour and do it again. Feel very bad for the th9s as they will lose tons of loot and never get a shield. Bravo sc
All they needed to do was remove TH sniping. No need for a village guard (maybe in Titans+) but just add 15 minutes onto shields if that's all it is. The whole buying a VG thing is just so they make more money?