Village Guard & Personal Breaks <-- discuss it HERE!

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Keep in mind that this is pre-update. Pre-less likely to find a target that's two Town Halls under you, (Let's say you're a Town Hall 8 right now, though you're probably not) which means a Town Hall 10 will be less likely to hit you. Pre-penalty increase when attacking a Town Hall lower than yours, which means a Town Hall 9 will also be less likely to hit you.

Plus, you now get the option to attack through shield, meaning if you DO lose 300k resources from an attack and most likely get a 12-hour shield, you can attack three more times in that duration without being attacked...and if you manage your resources wisely - Currently I use GiBarch, for flexibility for both storage and collector raids. I don't see why this strategy wouldn't be viable post-update to get to storages - you should be able to make a decent profit.

AND, not every attack is guaranteed a three-star, or even the stealing of too much loot. :)

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I have games with TH6, TH7, TH8, and TH9. Using bases with the TH inside the walls NOW is a decent enough preview of what is to come. Most attacks are from the same TH level; and they actually tend to lose the attack. However, the kill my heroes and clan castle troops, so the next attack has a much higher probability of succeeding, especially if it is one TH above. Every once in a while, I get attacked by a player two TH levels above, but that's actually fairly infrequent.

And, yes, we will be able to attack through a shield, but that assumes you know when you were attacked and have the time to do so. An overnight attack will exhaust most of that shield, of course.

Most current attack strategies should work the same post-update as they do today (that was one of my points) although holding on to trophies will be a bit harder due to the lack of snipeable THs. The big problem here is the short PBT and being unable to save much across raiding sessions.

This update will weed out a lot of players; the casual player and the not-very-good will quickly jettison themselves. Why? Because it will simply be too difficult to get and retain resources to build up the base. By the time you hit TH7, maybe TH8, the game play will drop to the point of taking 6-12 months minimum to upgrade a base (well...without rushing). After this update, you will also no longer be able to play on just what you mine/collect/drill either; in fact, for TH7 and up, resource collectors will simply be a means of slowing down your opponent and increasing the likelihood of getting a shield.

it's possible there are other changes that will improve gameplay, but I am skeptical that will be the case. In the meantime, I am one raiding maniac right now while I still have the six hour PBT. Of course, on deployment day, I will be sniping like a mad man too; for the first month or so, there will be tons of loot available to TH snipers.

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Originally Posted by Bjack13

Is being kicked off for 6 min really that big of a deal? I don't get the outrage? I don't understand how it would have any effect on war?

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Yes. Read back through the posts; lots of folks explain why. It's not just the 6 minutes that matters by itself, but the whole thing. For clan wars, you risk being kicked out during the war, in between attacks, and you will have limited availability during the event as well.

And in order to effectively clan war, you need to build up your base and troops. A three hour PBT and guaranteed resource losses will make that more difficult, especially when all the soft targets ditch the game because it is too difficult to build up their villages. The new shield rules may also expose more bases to multiple attacks in a shorter period of time, resulting in significantly greater resource losses to boot.

So when the update comes the pbt now in game is shorten to 3 hours, and then you will have to make a good compositions of army and a spell because of this changes, which will take more time than usual farming army. lots of players are use to barch, bam and gbarch when farming. I feel like this shorten pbt time will make my and some players farming session time consuming for my pbt mostly on higher leagues cos you'll have to wait for your troops and spell to be ready which take half an hour to prepare unless you got lots of gems to boost your barracks and sf. It would be great if some of the troops which take sometime and sf time be reduce.

Confuzzled, but excited.

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Originally Posted by Noctaire

Setting aside the fact I hate the PBT being shortened to three hours...what does that mean for boosted barracks, spell factories, and heroes?

The boosts are all two hours. If I boost two runs, that means the PBT kicks me out in the middle of my second boost. Does the boost timer stop?

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Originally Posted by themariofan

That's where the 10-gem extension comes in. I think it's actually really reasonable, as it is, on average, a day's worth of obstacle gems, and you probably won't be buying it every day unless you're pushing in high Titan.

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I don't mind spending 10 gems to get a little more raiding in, but not when it is just to get me thru my last hour of boost (that I already spent gems for; heroes, SF, barracks etc.) and still have the times continuously uneven. Honestly I do not see the reasoning or justification between 3 and 4 hours or even 6. Especially when other measures are being put into place to to make additional targets available. Shorten the time, fine. At least make it even to the boost times available so that your online time is maximized.

Only 3hrs sc. Cutting you out after 6 was annoying enough.

Always happens when things r going good

I am getting so fricken annoyed by this portion of update. I love to grind out upgrades. So i fricken hit my three hour limit and because my base is so awesome no one attacks me. It would be better if i can just get on again and grinf another three hours. After my base sits in the attack que for the 6 min. Eventually my base will look juicy enought to hit.

i fricken hate that i HAVE to take a def to start grinding again. Seems ♥♥♥♥♥♥ed and restricting my play.


Resetting this PBT is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ed process and u will lose more gamers this way.


By there being sooooooo many new bases out there to attack it may be hours before mine is hit to reset this damn timer. So fricken irritated. Do something about this SC

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Originally Posted by RedHotLizotte

I don't mind spending 10 gems to get a little more raiding in, but not when it is just to get me thru my last hour of boost (that I already spent gems for; heroes, SF, barracks etc.) and still have the times continuously uneven. Honestly I do not see the reasoning or justification between 3 and 4 hours or even 6. Especially when other measures are being put into place to to make additional targets available. Shorten the time, fine. At least make it even to the boost times available so that your online time is maximized.

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Yes, and well said.

Being able to buy 2 more hours, once a day, doesn't fix much of the problem. I have yet to see any good explanation how it is not just plain stupid to get kicked off after playing for 3 hours, when boost periods are 2 hours.

Why in the heck don't they make it 4 hours playtime, if they want to reduce it from 6? This is amazing to me.

I'll adjust to the update and deal with it all, but the "3 hours" thing is nonsense. They say they want people to play more, to attack more, so they kick players off after 3 hours.... :thumbsdown: :facepalm:

It does seem bizarre that for most game software programmers/makers, the whole idea is to get people to play as often as possible (whilst hopefully spending some real money along the way).

To see a game actively kick players out of it (for gameplaying reasons) seem laughable to the extent that it will surely encourage players to look elsewhere for their enjoyment.

Maybe SC are seeing their profits decrease and are having a kneejerk reaction to it. However, in this instance it will surely make matters worse for them.

The trouble is a lot of the "fixes" can be solved easily and without alienating the majority of the players. Sure, there have been some minor adjustments as a result of the outcry from the players but I do wonder how SC see the future of the game as they will most likely bring back the original measures at a later date.

I hope not but this forthcoming update has not been handled well. Maybe the worse of the updates were deliberately announced early so as to make the higly anticipated announcements near to the actual update and thus hope that the earlier bad news was overshadowed by the good. Sadly, I would say it has not gone well for them.

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Originally Posted by SilentSniper

This!!
The reason I decided to stop lurking and register an account here was to post pretty much exactly what you just wrote. Without implementing something like this I believe that clan wars will suffer unbelievably.

I don't care if I get raided or not, I don't really care how much loot I lose when i'm raided it can after all always be raided back easily enough. But when SC tells me that I cannot log in to advise my clan of war targets for our clean up attacks or to donate troops for our attackers in war I really do start to care.
This social side to coc is one of the main aspects to this game. I don't want to have to wait for an in-determined amount of time to be attacked so that I can lead my clan again. Continually attempting log in only to be told that SC dont want me play could end up making me seriously consider whether I want to continue investing so much time into a game trying to grow my clan. When I am unable to be online when it suits me. SC you need to encourage activity not punish us for it.

This idea needs to be seriously considered and implemented with this update as it allows bases to enter the pool of available raids (which seems to be the overall aim of the personal break changes) while still allowing players to be active parts of their clan and participate in clan wars.

For this to work we would only need to able to train & donate troops, and use our war attacks from the war screen. Access to the rest our our home village would not be needed at all while we are waiting to be attacked sitting in the raid matchmaking pool.

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*BINGO*

CoC devs need to talk to dedicated players. Why alienate us like this? This ^^^^ is much better idea!

Also, what idiot decided 3 hrs for PBT? 4 or 6 hrs (a multiple of boost time) is the only thing that makes sense.

Finally, off topic, but why not just reduce TH sniping shield time to 3 hours and make have Res equal to 10% of storage. Don't break the game, just make it more expensive for the shield.