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Add the "Surrender" button to Clan Wars. When a clan has decided to no longer attack, and are accepting the loss, the Clan Leaders can choose Surrender. In order for the surrender to be final, the opposing clan leader must accept it, and the war can end early!
Please do realize what'll happen if they put surrender button for Clan war to end immediately. What about the CLAN EXP? CLAN PERKS? BONUS LOOTS? SECOND ATTEMPTS? If they surrender just because they lost hopes how can "WE" get the EXP for our clan and more accurately the bonus loots. That would mean 2nd attacks are meaningless.
I can understand the frustration of not being able to just end a war and get on with the next, but I can see many ways that it could be misused.
In the older days of clash, i could see this happening. But since Clan Perks have come out, no! Could be abused to get xp
It was a great idea to begin with but. I could see just like we have clan hoppers. I could see War hoppers, getting a mass attack of 50 xp and hitting that button of surrender to go the next war. Perhaps if you create an xp penalty for surrendering the war than this tactic may be avoided.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackdopp
But I could see why it is needed. You start a war and 3 people leave and the score is 50 to 12 and you can call it quits.
The big farming clans would have a field day with this!!!! They already play to loose wars it would just increase the intensity of it all.
Not a good idea.
Yup, not fair for those level 7+ clans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackdopp
Never heard of that, why would a farming clan want to lose a war? Please explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rue73
I understand your fears of losing exp, perks, loots, etc. But for example: we recently had a small 10 vs 10 war, we completely over powered them, in the first 8 hrs of war it was 26 to 1. I thought wow an inactive clan, so I told everyone lets just finish off our remaing attacks n loots. Now 14hrs left in war and they have 5 attacks, and its now 29 to 7. All of our attacks are done! From this point on, nothing from them! The war is essentially over. We now wait 14 hrs for the war to end, when if there was a "Surrender Button", we could have ended it, and started a new war! We would have received all the Exp., Perks, and Loots regardles, and all of our attacks are done. If I was the Leader in the other Clan, and none of my peeps are attacking, then screw them and their loots\2nd attacks! I would just surrender the war is lost and probably nobody in thier clan wants the little bit of crappy loot from loosing a war!Quote:
Originally Posted by buchinchin
PS: 1st thing everyone says is good idea but Clans will take advantage and abuse the button. Well it seems that almost every aspect of COC has been abused by those who like to ♥♥♥♥♥ the system. People will always find a way around something to gain advantage.
Would be abused for easy XP. Maybe if you get no xp or loot bonus then it wont be abused. Maybe not used at all. Which means maybe not being added. So no!
I agree. No xp, no loot for either clan and both have to agree. There should be ZERO incentive for abuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by bhcool12
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Originally Posted by prosper12
There are actually clans out there that make it a point to keep their records at 0 wins...its the best way to convince the opposing clan that you are sincere when you visit their clan, tell them you have no intention of trying to win because you use wars for farming, and ask them to put their THs out on at least a couple of their top bases so your members don't have to waste armies and can get good bonuses.
I don't think this would be abused as much as some people here seem to due to the way it would be set up...
In order for the war to end early, one clan has to surrender, and the other clan has to ACCEPT it. So really, the feature would probably get used less than you think because unless a clan is way behind and don't really have a chance to come back, they're not likely to surrender, and if their leaders are half decent they'd be waiting until they maximize the possible clan XP too.
More importantly though, if you're the leader of the clan that is ahead, and you care about your members, you're likely going to let the war go basically to the end so all your members can get in both attacks and get big bonuses. So really, I think the frequency wouldn't be all that great, and would typically only shave an hour or two off the war at most.
I totally agree with all you said! I thought the same thing, it would only get used when both Leaders agree. It's really a no brainer I think! There are so many inactive/semi-inactive clans out there, that just go into wars with 50% - 80% of thier members not active, or the bolt on them during wars! I do know it doesn't happen that much, where your clan gets matched with these types of clans, but its happened a couple of timesin the last 15 days. Im sure COC wide it happens quite a lot. Anyways I'll get off my soapbox n just say" Thanks awesomeness2016!"Quote:
Originally Posted by awesomness2016
never give up, never surrender.
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Originally Posted by troydonaldson49
heh. ;) you're welcome.
and i think that depends on what level you're at. My clan is high enough level that we rarely if ever match against inactive clans (everyone is above level 80, and i get the feeling if you have anyone thats level 120+ in your clan at all, you won't see inactive clans in matching).
Yep, Exactly :thumbsup::smirk:Quote:
Originally Posted by LemoneyFresh937
we are an active International L7 Adult War Clan. We war 3Xs/week, use all attacks, not matter the score & kick those who dont or try to get away with raiding troops in a losing effort.
Many times we have used 3/4's of all attacks in first 8 hrs and have amassed 90%+ of total stars available. Once this happens, we often see the top enemy bases attack & based on their success against our top bases, the lower bases either continue or give up with no further activity. This has happened against us also, thankfully far fewer times.
it would be nice to have a surrender button to end the war so we could jump right into the next one.
Possibly it could work with surrendering Leader pushes button. Once accepted by winning clan, it triggers 1 hr countdown so those who want to hit for loot have the option. Limiting it to leaders only, reduces potential for abuse. If they choose not to surrender, so be it.
Yep totally agree with that. What they could add though is a button once all attacks are in but time hasnt run out is that you can speed it upQuote:
Originally Posted by buchinchin
Thats the problem with this ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by Devjo
This can be a good idea if the other clan have to accept that u surrender.
i'm more for just having a "next" button during the first four hours of preparation day to ditch crapola matchups
I agree that the "end now" botton can be abused; however when wars are already won/lost within let's say 12/15 hours, the remaining 12/9 hours can be extremely boring because the losing clan may give up attacking early.
I think that setting up a new feature that makes wars end automatically once all attacks have been made by both clans may provide the following benefits:
1) more attacks to watch "live" at the end of wars;
2) more testing on war bases (because they will be attacked more often);
3) more balance in clan perks between large and small clans (since the giving-up issue affects wars between small clans more than those between large clans, the former would be more likely to end wars a few hours earlier).
I'm aware that some clans may fix wars for whatever reason (especially when they have low clan perks), therefore I think that clans should start to enjoy this new feature only once they reach a certain number of perks.
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Originally Posted by CHIMICHANGATIME
No, see this feature would be a huge problem. Everyone would just next until they get a favorable matchup. But once you get a favorable matchup the other clan is likely to next.
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Originally Posted by Gorf
I think it's fairly obvious that the Surrender and Accept Surrender features would have to be initiated/accepted by a co or leader only. The surrendering clan would also have the option of taking back their surrender if it hasn't been accepted yet.
I like the idea of a countdown though; either half hour or full hour.
As far as abuse goes, if the winning clan has to accept, there isn't a ton of room for it. The only thing I can see happening that would be abusive is clans engineering matchups to get each other, leaving THs unprotected, racking up XP real quick, and then ending the war. Which may be enough reason to not do it, I don't know.
What if only the losing team could press it and it would have to be the leader that presses it