Sweetspot on Zapping the queen?

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November 10th, 2015
nerfedname

Sweetspot on Zapping the queen?

A clanmate of mine tried to use some lightning spells to take down an opposing queen in war and failed.

The queen was marching around an air defense. She dropped an earthquake first to soften the AD, then a poison (lvl1) to slow the queen's patrol, and when the queen walked onto the AD she put 2 lvl 5 lightning's down on her. The queen was lvl7 (with 821 hp). Two lightnings should do 900 damage and kill her, however not all the bolts hit the exact same spot and the enemy queen was left with about 20% hp (the AD dropped though).

So my question is, is there any sort of "sweet spot" or prime location one must drop the lightnings on her in order to get her to take the full damage? Or it is impossible to hit her with all the bolts and would therefore require 3 lights to take her down?

Thanks in advance to those who know more about this than I do.
November 10th, 2015
Shards

The queen moves every 2 seconds. It has to be PERFECTLY timed. The only other way is more lightnings, I guess. 3 light + poison maybe?
November 10th, 2015
JJ2478

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Originally Posted by Shards

The queen moves every 2 seconds. It has to be PERFECTLY timed. The only other way is more lightnings, I guess. 3 light + poison maybe?

this. Another poison might do the trick. If not, just add another zap.
November 10th, 2015
nerfedname

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Originally Posted by Shards

The queen moves every 2 seconds. It has to be PERFECTLY timed. The only other way is more lightnings, I guess. 3 light + poison maybe?

Yeah, I'm aware of the 2 second patrol. When I watched the replay, my clanmate appeared to target the spells on her pretty good so I don't necessarily think it was a timing issue.

It may just be impossible to get her with all the bolts, and would ALWAYS require 3 lights (for a lvl7 queen). I don't have enough experience zapping queens to know for sure however.
November 10th, 2015
nerfedname

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Originally Posted by CoCRules2478

this. Another poison might do the trick. If not, just add another zap.

but poison doesn't stack as far as I know.

I thought the damage ramp rate doubled (with 2 poisons), but the max dps was the same (and max dps on heroes is atrocious, like 1/4th the normal damage).
November 10th, 2015
Klavious

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Originally Posted by nerfedname

but poison doesn't stack as far as I know.

I thought the damage ramp rate doubled (with 2 poisons), but the max dps was the same (and max dps on heroes is atrocious, like 1/4th the normal damage).

poison does stack, at least the damage part, it just does next to no damage on heroes. it does however slow them down.
November 10th, 2015
nerfedname

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Originally Posted by Klavious

poison does stack, at least the damage part, it just does next to no damage on heroes. it does however slow them down.

the wiki says it does not stack, only the scaling rate. Under "trivia" is also says "poison spells USED to stack," and this probably got changed with the september update. I don't believe it stacks anymore (perhaps I'll have to test this when I get a chance).

Either way, it does ♥♥♥♥ damage on heroes :)
November 10th, 2015
Klavious

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Originally Posted by nerfedname

the wiki says it does not stack, only the scaling rate. Under "trivia" is also says "poison spells USED to stack," and this probably got changed with the september update. I don't believe it stacks anymore (perhaps I'll have to test this when I get a chance).

Either way, it does ♥♥♥♥ damage on heroes :)

my bad, that's what I must be remembering.
November 11th, 2015
WingedBrew

You have to assume at least one bolt on each lightning won't hit so don't expect lightning to ever do the max damage that is displayed to one unit. Assume 4/5 of that damage for each.
November 11th, 2015
tyler4

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Originally Posted by WingedBrew

You have to assume at least one bolt on each lightning won't hit so don't expect lightning to ever do the max damage that is displayed to one unit. Assume 4/5 of that damage for each.

Watch the youtube videos breaking down each lightning strike, it isn't like this at all.
November 11th, 2015
kaniyarth

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Originally Posted by nerfedname

A clanmate of mine tried to use some lightning spells to take down an opposing queen in war and failed.

The queen was marching around an air defense. She dropped an earthquake first to soften the AD, then a poison (lvl1) to slow the queen's patrol, and when the queen walked onto the AD she put 2 lvl 5 lightning's down on her. The queen was lvl7 (with 821 hp). Two lightnings should do 900 damage and kill her, however not all the bolts hit the exact same spot and the enemy queen was left with about 20% hp (the AD dropped though).

So my question is, is there any sort of "sweet spot" or prime location one must drop the lightnings on her in order to get her to take the full damage? Or it is impossible to hit her with all the bolts and would therefore require 3 lights to take her down?

Thanks in advance to those who know more about this than I do.

I do not think this will work. We also tried it and failed. Here is the video in case someone thinks that there could be a better option

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4LfuSgSmbU
November 11th, 2015
jpozan1

Sounds to me like he did everything right you just need more zaps. I have only ever done this on lvl 25 AQ or higher but I always have to use 4 so for lower queens 3 should do
November 11th, 2015
Yankee1431

I did this last night. 3 level 6 lights on a lvl6 aq was more than enough. Took her and ad out. Timing is important.
November 11th, 2015
nerfedname

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Originally Posted by Yankee1431

I did this last night. 3 level 6 lights on a lvl6 aq was more than enough. Took her and ad out. Timing is important.

Basically this. You cannot do it with 2 zaps, you need 3. We had a few unneeded attacks at the end of the war so we did some testing (the other clan probably thought we were crazy).

No matter how well timed or placed the spells were, 2 zaps NEVER took her down. I think another posters "4/5th" damage suggestion is probably a good rule of thumb although unscientific.

Fyi for all future queen zappers :)