Suggestion: Add a timer so that new members can't donate troops immediately

//Title is misleading after the update. This is going to be a long read.. so brace yourselves. You can skip to TLDR part for a quick overview.

Dear Supercell Team,
I am sure you are loaded up with the request to change the current gameplay mechanism for ‘new members’ in a clan. They are creating a lot of nuisance in this game, ranging from harassment to spying during wars.

I would like to bring your notice one such issue that a group of players are facing in this game due to new members. The issue is affecting all clans which have selected their setting as ‘anyone can join’, and specifically a subgroup of free troops donating clans operating in that setting (More info about donation clans can be found here - *I would do a post on donating clans and link it here).

My clan is also a donating clan, which keeps its setting as ‘anyone can join’. We like to gain experience in the game by helping relatively new players, and level up in turn. But ever since it became common knowledge that donating giants are the fastest way to level up in the game, some players have been abusing this feature. They get in clans clan which keep their setting as anyone can join, fill all the open requests with giants, leave that clan and repeat the procedure on and on.

Donating clans have been worst hit by this abuse. We get a lot of troop requests per minute, which can be judged by the fact that some of the donation clans hit 2 million troops donated per season quite easily. As a result, we are ripe targets for these abusers. We are getting increasing number of such people who come into our clan and keep donating giants (giants are not allowed to be donated in interest of the players we serve) with boosted barracks until someone notices them and kicks them out. Even after being kicked, these guys join other donating clans and repeat this stuff. With the ban period on being kicked only 24 hours, these guys return again the next day and repeat this stuff.

These guys are knowingly donating wrong troops, and affecting others’ gameplay just for gaining some experience in game. As it stands, I, on behalf of clans with setting as ‘anyone can join’ the whole free troops donating community, request you to take care of this issue by including some mechanism in game that limits donating of new members, or in any other way helps to eliminate this ‘intentional’ wrong troops donation abuse.

This request of mine could be considered by Supercell in unison with all the problems which we are facing due to ‘new members’ in the current gameplay mechanism.

TLDR;
Issue: Players doing an intentional ‘wrong troops donation abuse’ by jumping clan and filling up all the empty requests
Affected parties: All the clans with setting as ‘anyone can join’, specially the free troops donating clans
Action sought from Supercell: Implement some feature in game to eliminate this abuse
Suggested solutions:
1. Providing an option in clan settings, where we can choose whether new members can donate troops or not
(Though permanent banning of players from a clan could be also be an effective solution, I have intentionally left it out because I feel permanent ban feature could also be abused easily)

Looking for community members to suggest some idea or other possible solutions.

They have a really neat feature called "invite only" try it some time.

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Originally Posted by Klavious

They have a really neat feature called "invite only" try it some time.

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Dear friend if you read my post carefully, I have already mentioned that this problem is inherent to 'anyone can join'

Sorry, but this is not a good idea, most clans don't have an issue with this problem. I can also guarentee that most clans would not want this feature.

This is an issue that you can solve yourself, set your clan to invite only.

Unfortunately... as annoying as donation hoppers are...

All the folks that are annoyed by people that hop and request immediately without donating first will probably not like your idea.

I feel your pain... but this idea is not going to happen.

An example of this being a bad idea:

A new member arrives in your clan. Your friend (for example) he is a th9 (for example)

There is a war.

He can't donate high level troops to you because there is a timer.

Set it to 'Invite Only' or 'Closed' Fixed in a matter of seconds.

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Originally Posted by blueseraph79

An example of this being a bad idea:

A new member arrives in your clan. Your friend (for example) he is a th9 (for example)

There is a war.

He can't donate high level troops to you because there is a timer.

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That's why I have written that the timer would go away if new member is promoted to elder or co. I see no harm in promoting a visiting friend to elder.

Try to put some effort into reading before commenting man.

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Originally Posted by Xav1

Sorry, but this is not a good idea, most clans don't have an issue with this problem. I can also guarentee that most clans would not want this feature.

This is an issue that you can solve yourself, set your clan to invite only.

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Do not guarantee anything based upon your imagination. Set your clan preference for 'anyone can join' for a week and then we can talk about your guarantees.

When I have requested this feature, please do understand that this feature is for clans with the setting of 'anyone can join'. So if you're OK with your settings, that's good for you. But please refrain from commenting if you cannot appreciate our problems.

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Originally Posted by PureEnergy66

Set it to 'Invite Only' or 'Closed' Fixed in a matter of seconds.

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It takes like 2 minutes to go through the original post and understand that this is a concern for a specific clan setting.
Buy anyways, thanks for your valuable suggestion :D

P.S.: As an appeal to further commenters, I would like to request that please refrain for posting replies like changing my clan setting to other types. Changing the clan type is not an option for me. It must be 'anyone can join'.

Thank You

The fact a solution exists (Invite or closed), means you're fighting a losing battle.

It's not a good idea though.

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Originally Posted by CHiCANE

Do not guarantee anything based upon your imagination. Set your clan preference for 'anyone can join' for a week and then we can talk about your guarantees.

When I have requested this feature, please do understand that this feature is for clans with the setting of 'anyone can join'. So if you're OK with your settings, that's good for you. But please refrain from commenting if you cannot appreciate our problems.

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A forum is for discussing things. He is entitled to his opinion. This is a place where people can discuss new ideas for the game. Key word: discuss. If you dont want you ideas to be critiqued, email them directly to supercell...

If they had any sense, they'd train barbarians.

• Cheaper
• You get more (5) faster than you do giants.
• More efficient

They could just join a req and go clan. But, all you need to do is turn your clan to invite only, and don't let requests hang around for too long!

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Originally Posted by Echo006

If they had any sense, they'd train barbarians.

• Cheaper
• You get more (5) faster than you do giants.
• More efficient

They could just join a req and go clan. But, all you need to do is turn your clan to invite only, and don't let requests hang around for too long!

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Ya man barbarians are cheaper, but donating giants is the fastest way to level up currently. I am trying to set up a new 'Request and Run' clan and trust me, I alone kick more than 30 giant donators daily who are on boost. They go HAM on all the requests until someone spots and kicks them out.
Again, one additional problem which I am facing is that these guys are returning back. I suspect that they bookmark 'Request and Run' clans and keep on returning when one day ban gets over.

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Originally Posted by herranton

A forum is for discussing things. He is entitled to his opinion. This is a place where people can discuss new ideas for the game. Key word: discuss. If you dont want you ideas to be critiqued, email them directly to supercell...

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Get a grip man. He wan not discussing the idea. It was not even an opinion. He was just shoving down his 'guarantee' that most of the clan do not want this. Now which most of the clan he is talking about?

I am open to critiques if they put even an iota of thought process behind their 'expert' comments.

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Originally Posted by CHiCANE

Get a grip man. He wan not discussing the idea. It was not even an opinion. He was just shoving down his 'guarantee' that most of the clan do not want this. Now which most of the clan he is talking about?

I am open to critiques if they put even an iota of thought process behind their 'expert' comments.

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lol... I can see that... you are very approachable :)

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Originally Posted by OldAndConfused

lol... I can see that... you are very approachable :)

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Seriously go through the thread man. Most of the guys here won't even read OP before making a point. In their view, just making a point is important. Forget about sense and logic.

I had repeated like 3-4 times in the thread that the problem is for 'anyone can join' clans, still people were coming and offering me a solution that change my setting. I was like whaaa..how can you be so obtuse!!

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Originally Posted by CHiCANE

Seriously go through the thread man. Most of the guys here won't even read OP before making a point. In their view, just making a point is important. Forget about sense and logic.

I had repeated like 3-4 times in the thread that the problem is for 'anyone can join' clans, still people were coming and offering me a solution that change my setting. I was like whaaa..how can you be so obtuse!!

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Well perhaps... but you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

And I think they are simply saying there is a solution that works for most people and for them its fine.

Its really annoying when others don't share your sense of frustration but without support from a significant percentage of the playing public you will just have to accept that your idea will never be implemented.

You can stomp your feet and be angry on the forums... but eventually your thread dies and everyone moves on.

[QUOTE=CHiCANE;5749024]Get a grip man. He wan not discussing the idea.[/QOUTE]

There was no need for me to discuss the idea. I read it and replied that it was not a good idea.

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Originally Posted by CHiCANE

It was not even an opinion.

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My opinion was that it was not a good idea, which I stated in my response.

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Originally Posted by CHiCANE

He was just shoving down his 'guarantee' that most of the clan do not want this. Now which most of the clan he is talking about?

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Not sure how I was shoving anything, besides stating the fact that most clans would not want this feature. Yes, I guarantee most clans would not want this feature, that is my opinion, and I stand behind my statement.

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Originally Posted by CHiCANE

I am open to critiques if they put even an iota of thought process behind their 'expert' comments.

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You made it clear from your reply that you are, in fact, not open to critiques, not from me, nor most of the other posters in this thread. I never claimed to be any kind of expert, you seemed to take my opinion as a personal attack, as evidenced by your reply.

Restricting players donating within a certain timeframe is clearly what it not best for the game. You want SC to solve a "you" problem, not a game problem.

So you like to talk bad about my idea but what feedback is your idea getting?
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Originally Posted by Xav1

There was no need for me to discuss the idea. I read it and replied that it was not a good idea.

My opinion was that it was not a good idea, which I stated in my response.

Not sure how I was shoving anything, besides stating the fact that most clans would not want this feature. Yes, I guarantee most clans would not want this feature, that is my opinion, and I stand behind my statement.

You made it clear from your reply that you are, in fact, not open to critiques, not from me, nor most of the other posters in this thread. I never claimed to be any kind of expert, you seemed to take my opinion as a personal attack, as evidenced by your reply.

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Again I believe you need logic 101.

1. 'Most clan not wanting this feature': My friend 'anyone can join' is what we are focusing upon. Keep you clan in that mode for a week and then you can appreciate our pain.
2. Can you please care to explain that how is guaranteeing without any prior experience or data not 'shoving' your thoughts? (It just shows from your ignorant comment that you have never been in an 'anoyne can join' clan in recent past)
3. Not every feedback is a good feedback. If you don't know it, then be aware of it now. Feedbacks are always there. You have to collect all of them and filter out unnecessary ones.

Now the point of yours which is good is this one

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Originally Posted by Xav1

Restricting players donating within a certain timeframe is clearly what it not best for the game. You want SC to solve a "you" problem, not a game problem.

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My friend you are totally unaware of what is going on in 'anyone can join' clans these days. So, I would reiterate my point here. Each day, I kick out more than 30 people who are donating giants with their barracks boosted. This is not a figure which I have just made up now. You can go in any 'REQ & RUN' kind of clan and confirm the data which I provided. I believe any nice donating clan would be kicking out about 15-20 of these rogue players per hour.
Do you know the thing which is more disturbing is that they have bookmarked clan like ours. So after the ban period of 24 hours gets over, they are eligible to join our clan and repeat the same stuff again.

Coming on to your point that this problem is 'only mine'. No my friend, it is not. It is turning the whole donating community hate this donating stuff. I mean we put in much effort to create a clan with good and active donating members, just to provide a platform for these players to abuse a feature that current gameplay offers them? It take is much additional work to constantly monitor and kick those players who donate wrong stuff.

So all you have said till now is the generic stuff that any clasher can tell me. What more are you offering other than bashing the OP?

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Originally Posted by EthanConte

So you like to talk bad about my idea but what feedback is your idea getting?
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What idea are you talking about Ethan? Would you link me to it?

If you want to run down this rough and rugged road you are building for yourself, why don't you have some simple clan rules?
Maybe no new players can donate anything more than barbs or arch for their first 24 hours?
Or no giants allowed as donations for 24 hours.
If you want to make life hard for yourself by not wanting to put the hard work in to building and growing a clan then I'm afraid you will always suffer these set backs.
I eagerly await the angry tongue lashing you seem to imploy to all your replys !!!

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Originally Posted by Rue73

If you want to run down this rough and rugged road you are building for yourself, why don't you have some simple clan rules?
Maybe no new players can donate anything more than barbs or arch for their first 24 hours?
Or no giants allowed as donations for 24 hours.
If you want to make life hard for yourself by not wanting to put the hard work in to building and growing a clan then I'm afraid you will always suffer these set backs.
I eagerly await the angry tongue lashing you seem to imploy to all your replys !!!

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I think you're confusing those naive donators who fail to understand what clan rules are, with the guys who do it on purpose, for 'experience farming'.
Rules are there, but as there is no inherent feature to enforce these rules, they are just for guys who are honest. You can go to even the best of donating clans, and find out from them how many number of giant donators they get daily.
I am putting in the hard work, that's why I came here looking for a solution to this donation abuse that the current gameplay allows.

As for you feedback, even I have been realizing it that I came too hard on some peeps who made ignorant comments. I would keep that in mind next time onwards to tone down and appreciate someone who is taking out his time and effort for this thread.

Thank You

Sounds to me that from your last comments you need to look at having a different plan with your clan.
Maybe have a feeder clan that way you could pre vet anyone who then wants to join yours.
Just a question why have you got to have your clan open? It's your choice but why if its causing you so much heart ache?

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Originally Posted by Rue73

Sounds to me that from your last comments you need to look at having a different plan with your clan.
Maybe have a feeder clan that way you could pre vet anyone who then wants to join yours.
Just a question why have you got to have your clan open? It's your choice but why if its causing you so much heart ache?

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Rue, our clan is not in need of any new members. We are a bunch of heavily experienced people, who have maxed everything. Having a feeder clan would have no use here because we are running a 'request and run' kind of clan. You can search for such clans in game and read the description, you'll get an idea how these clan work. We help clashers who are in need of troops, but either they don't have a clan or are in inactive clans.

Now these 'Request & Run' clans always have an open door policy (read anyone can join :p)and we donate barbarians, archers, wizards and minions to everyone who comes to our clan. These clans also have a rule that only Leader, Co-leaders and elders would donate troops to maintain quality level of troops which are being donated. Barring some exceptions, normally such clans have *NO GIANTS* policy and even our clan no giants rule so that incoming members know in advance what kind of troops they would get. Once the clan castle of visiting members are filled up, they have to leave our clan and they can come back whenever they are in need troops again.

What these giant donators are doing is that they come in our clan, and as we always have some members coming in our clan to take troops, these gameplay abusers go on donating giants to everyone. This not only tarnishes the reputation of our clan, it also wastes 20 minutes of clashers as they would have to request again if they want defensive troops.

I've had a chat with other clans like ours and even they are annoyed by these giant donators. That's when I decided to take up this issue make sure that it reaches Supercell.

OP was updated.
I added an alternative solution. The clans would have an option in their settings page, where they can select whether or not they want their 'new members' to donate troops. Such an option would be immensely helpful for donating clans.

I think that there is still room for improvement in this idea. Keep the suggestions coming guys.

Clash on!

This would be amazing for Req and Go Clans! :p

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Originally Posted by Echo006

This would be amazing for Req and Go Clans! :p

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Thanks for the support man. :o

Hoping that the donator community notices it, and extend their support so that Supercell can understand what issues we are facing and take corrective measures.

I will repeat my objection to this suggestion because I'm not sure it registered with you when I initially made it.

See my first post.

One of the annoyances that a regular old clan face (you know the 99.9% of the ones that just play the game... not a request and leave clan) are players that drop in and request troops immediately before donating.

Now I know a lot of people really are not bothered by this... but a lot of people are.

If you are trying to build a cohesive clan where everyone donates - you just have to deal with the takers of this world. Typically these people start looking for a clan on global with a prompt that starts with "I NEED".

Anyway...

If the timer you are suggesting is added clear across Clash of Clans new members of [a regular] clan will not be able to donate and show their new clan that they are not just there to take troops. So they will either have to wait out your timer before they request... or they will request right away and possibly get booted out of the clan.

This is the problem with any suggestion made in these forums ... one must consider all possible side effects to all types of users and clans in the system.

This is not to say at all that this is the only such side effect of your suggestion... just the only one that pops in to mind at the moment.

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Originally Posted by OldAndConfused

I will repeat my objection to this suggestion because I'm not sure it registered with you when I initially made it.

See my first post.

One of the annoyances that a regular old clan face (you know the 99.9% of the ones that just play the game... not a request and leave clan) are players that drop in and request troops immediately before donating.

Now I know a lot of people really are not bothered by this... but a lot of people are.

If you are trying to build a cohesive clan where everyone donates - you just have to deal with the takers of this world. Typically these people start looking for a clan on global with a prompt that starts with "I NEED".

Anyway...

If the timer you are suggesting is added clear across Clash of Clans new members of [a regular] clan will not be able to donate and show their new clan that they are not just there to take troops. So they will either have to wait out your timer before they request... or they will request right away and possibly get booted out of the clan.

This is the problem with any suggestion made in these forums ... one must consider all possible side effects to all types of users and clans in the system.

This is not to say at all that this is the only such side effect of your suggestion... just the only one that pops in to mind at the moment.

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From your post, i believe you have only one concern, which is:

• Some clans require new members to donate a few troops first, before they can start requesting for troops

Even I am amazed how I missed to consider this point..maybe because I was in such a clan when I was around level 30 (more than 2 years ago:p). Now to cater to your issues as well, I had already updated my OP with an alternate suggestion:

• To provide clans with an option to choose whether new members can donate troops or not

This would be a major relief for 'anyone can join' and 'request and run' kind of clans, while affecting no other group of players.

Don't hesitate to pop in again if you feel that this idea has some more issues. Thank you for your feedback.

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Originally Posted by CHiCANE

From your post, i believe you have only one concern, which is:

• Some clans require new members to donate a few troops first, before they can start requesting for troops

Even I am amazed how I missed to consider this point..maybe because I was in such a clan when I was around level 30 (more than 2 years ago:p). Now to cater to your issues as well, I had already updated my OP with an alternate suggestion:

• To provide clans with an option to choose whether new members can donate troops or not

This would be a major relief for 'anyone can join' and 'request and run' kind of clans, while affecting no other group of players.

Don't hesitate to pop in again if you feel that this idea has some more issues. Thank you for your feedback.

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You are correct, and your alternative removes that concern however - 3 things:

1. Any time you add something to the UI you are adding complexity. You are also changing the way the game behaves [per clan] based something you have customized. I think any update of this type would have to be pretty darn important - affect a lot of people, in a very visible way.

2. For me personally - this is not a problem I care about... no offense intended. You have an itch to scratch here but understand that [i think] for most people every item on the current sticky is probably wanted by more people than this.

3. I have absolutely no sympathy for people who feel the need to artificially inflate their experience level - its lame - and anyone looking at a profile can spot a level 70 masquerading as a level 140.

On the other hand perhaps your clan is just full of people that like to give... and that's great... but my sense is that this just enables hoppers and allows really bad clans (with poor management) to continue longer than they might otherwise. Perhaps that's a bit harsh... but I'm old and cranky and i've dealt with a lot of trolls and twits for way too long.

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Originally Posted by OldAndConfused

You are correct, and your alternative removes that concern however - 3 things:

1. Any time you add something to the UI you are adding complexity. You are also changing the way the game behaves [per clan] based something you have customized. I think any update of this type would have to be pretty darn important - affect a lot of people, in a very visible way.

2. For me personally - this is not a problem I care about... no offense intended. You have an itch to scratch here but understand that [i think] for most people every item on the current sticky is probably wanted by more people than this.

3. I have absolutely no sympathy for people who feel the need to artificially inflate their experience level - its lame - and anyone looking at a profile can spot a level 70 masquerading as a level 140.

On the other hand perhaps your clan is just full of people that like to give... and that's great... but my sense is that this just enables hoppers and allows really bad clans (with poor management) to continue longer than they might otherwise. Perhaps that's a bit harsh... but I'm old and cranky and i've dealt with a lot of trolls and twits for way too long.

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1. The necessary features are added in such a way that they minimize complexity. This idea is far from the final one. Your concern is genuine, which I know would be taken care by Supercell team when they start working on this. This change would directly improve the gameplay of 'anyone can join' and free troops donating clans , which is quite a big proportion of players.
2. Understand here that when Supercell has allowed clans to keep its setting as 'anyone can join', then it would take care of our grievances as well. Its indeed laughable that you regard this issue just as an itch of mine. You need to broaden your thinking here. I believe that even if its not applicable to you, your should approach this in a holistic manner..not just what implication this has for you.
3. The players doing experience farming are not looking for your sympathy. They are doing it because they like it. They way the choose to get it is important. Donating clans do it ethically, while those hoppers and giant donators do this by ruining others gameplay. I won't say anything about others who according to you are 'artificially inflating' their levels, but I have almost maxed out TH10 (only 25 walls remaining) and I enjoy donating troops.

Perception is what differentiates your thinking from mine. I see donating clans as a necessity because they help guys who are stuck in inactive clans, or are low leveled to find good enough clan. In my view, narrow minded clans who ask members to donate first before requesting are a plague to this system. How much some archers cost afterall? XD They promote mistrust. In all my previous clans, I have maintained my clan policies such that low leveled members get some relaxation in troops received and donated ratio. But hey that's my view..maybe not everyone is as as eager to help out new players as me.
Trolls are indeed way too annoying. And for you, a food for thought.. aren't the people donating wrong troops intentionally trolls?

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Originally Posted by CHiCANE

1. The necessary features are added in such a way that they minimize complexity. This idea is far from the final one. Your concern is genuine, which I know would be taken care by Supercell team when they start working on this. This change would directly improve the gameplay of 'anyone can join' and free troops donating clans , which is quite a big proportion of players.
2. Understand here that when Supercell has allowed clans to keep its setting as 'anyone can join', then it would take care of our grievances as well. Its indeed laughable that you regard this issue just as an itch of mine. You need to broaden your thinking here. I believe that even if its not applicable to you, your should approach this in a holistic manner..not just what implication this has for you.
3. The players doing experience farming are not looking for your sympathy. They are doing it because they like it. They way the choose to get it is important. Donating clans do it ethically, while those hoppers and giant donators do this by ruining others gameplay. I won't say anything about others who according to you are 'artificially inflating' their levels, but I have almost maxed out TH10 (only 25 walls remaining) and I enjoy donating troops.

Perception is what differentiates your thinking from mine. I see donating clans as a necessity because they help guys who are stuck in inactive clans, or are low leveled to find good enough clan. In my view, narrow minded clans who ask members to donate first before requesting are a plague to this system. How much some archers cost afterall? XD They promote mistrust. In all my previous clans, I have maintained my clan policies such that low leveled members get some relaxation in troops received and donated ratio. But hey that's my view..maybe not everyone is as as eager to help out new players as me.
Trolls are indeed way too annoying. And for you, a food for thought.. aren't the people donating wrong troops intentionally trolls?

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Well I will spare you the parsing of each of your sentences with a counter point and simply say... "The proof is in the pudding"

Every idea resonates with a fraction of the gaming public... you have received significant number of negative responses which you have either attacked or maligned.

Surprisingly... despite

1.your comments, and
2.the fact that I have zero interest in 'request and leave' clans, and
3.the fact that I have zero interest helping poor souls allegedly 'trapped' in bad clans.

I am much more interested in seeing 'anyone can join" improved than many of the other posters.

Contrary to what many of those people think - I do like to use anyone can join to fill my clan quickly so that I don't have to spend hours in the Global wasteland fishing for people that have just been kicked from someone elses clan.

I played this game for a full year and a half before the hopping Giant donators existed and "anyone can join" was quite nice to use.

The bottom line is that ANY idea needs to be seen as a big enough, important enough problem for it to get any attention at all... then it competes with the huge number of suggestions seen daily as well as those already on the sticky. I am doubtful that this idea is at that level.

By all means dream your dream. I'm quite sure nothing here is news to Supercell.

Feel free to have the last word if you must have it. I'm done.

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Originally Posted by OldAndConfused

Well I will spare you the parsing of each of your sentences with a counter point and simply say... "The proof is in the pudding"

Every idea resonates with a fraction of the gaming public... you have received significant number of negative responses which you have either attacked or maligned.

Surprisingly... despite

1.your comments, and
2.the fact that I have zero interest in 'request and leave' clans, and
3.the fact that I have zero interest helping poor souls allegedly 'trapped' in bad clans.

I am much more interested in seeing 'anyone can join" improved than many of the other posters.

Contrary to what many of those people think - I do like to use anyone can join to fill my clan quickly so that I don't have to spend hours in the Global wasteland fishing for people that have just been kicked from someone elses clan.

I played this game for a full year and a half before the hopping Giant donators existed and "anyone can join" was quite nice to use.

The bottom line is that ANY idea needs to be seen as a big enough, important enough problem for it to get any attention at all... then it competes with the huge number of suggestions seen daily as well as those already on the sticky. I am doubtful that this idea is at that level.

By all means dream your dream. I'm quite sure nothing here is news to Supercell.

Feel free to have the last word if you must have it. I'm done.

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As I have already told you, keep a holistic approach while giving out feedback. Your personal way of playing this game is different from mine and is irrelevant to this thread as well as the idea suggested.

Additionally, as getting into personal matters is not allowed here, I have not compared your harassing case in clash of clans with mine. I would reiterate.. get out of your 'only me' perspective to get a feel of issues that other players are facing.

While I am not surprised that you could not counter my views, I am surprised with the fact that even while acknowledging that 'anyone can join' feature has turned bad, you are opposed to the basic need this idea caters to.

Let me add one more thing here. My idea is not competing with any other idea out there. Put this notion out of your mind. It is just another confirmation of the fact that new members have became a nuisance in this game.. be it spying, harassing as in your case, or donating wrong troops in my case. Revamping the mechanics of new players is on top of the list of Supercell and I see my idea perfectly in sync with all the other ideas present out there.

"Invite Only" is the way to go, if your clan is on "Anyone can Join" then you WILL get trolls. Open clans beg for hoppers and rush donaters, you will find very few loyal players through that option.

"Anyone can join" is a option that gives you absolutely no control of who gets in. So don't be surprised if the clan fills up with the wrong people. Switching it to "Invite Only" is a more logical option, as you will have control of who gets in.

I think your issue is more a management issue than a game issue. It is not viable to put a timer on, because most people would want to genuinely help the clan they join.

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Originally Posted by F34R991

"Invite Only" is the way to go, if your clan is on "Anyone can Join" then you WILL get trolls. Open clans beg for hoppers and rush donaters, you will find very few loyal players through that option.

"Anyone can join" is a option that gives you absolutely no control of who gets in. So don't be surprised if the clan fills up with the wrong people. Switching it to "Invite Only" is a more logical option, as you will have control of who gets in.

I think your issue is more a management issue than a game issue. It is not viable to put a timer on, because most people would want to genuinely help the clan they join.

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Dear friend, thanks for taking out your time for the feedback. Though I would like to point out that you have not gone through my post as your comment is not not related in any way to my concern. Maybe my post is such that it fails to bring out a clear picture.

P.S.: As I am getting these comments which have no relation whatsoever with my original post, I will try and modify it to make a more comprehensive one so that all the issues are highlighted at one single place.

**The OP was re-written in order to avoid confusion. Its original version is as below:

Dear SuperCell Team,

Ever since the highest level player in Clash of Clans has let out his method of super fast leveling up by jumping clans and donating giants, a lot of rogue players have started following the suit, which has lead to a massive disruption in gameplay. Now, a clan can't keep its setting to 'anyone can join' because there are plenty of guys out there, who are on barracks boost with giants in training queue. They are donating anyone and everyone giants, just so that they could gain some experience points.

Problem: People hopping clan to clan and donating giants; effectively messing up others' game-play by donating wrong troops
Suggestion/Solution:
Providing an option in clan settings, where we can choose whether new members can donate troops or not.

EDIT:
Removed a suggestion from my original post. A big thanks to the community for coming out, discussing and helping me remove these:
1. Put a timer like maybe 2 hours, until a new member can donate troops to his clan mates
2. This timer would go away as soon as the player is promoted to elder or a co-leader

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Originally Posted by CHiCANE

**The OP was re-written in order to avoid confusion. Its original version is as below:

Dear SuperCell Team,

Ever since the highest level player in Clash of Clans has let out his method of super fast leveling up by jumping clans and donating giants, a lot of rogue players have started following the suit, which has lead to a massive disruption in gameplay. Now, a clan can't keep its setting to 'anyone can join' because there are plenty of guys out there, who are on barracks boost with giants in training queue. They are donating anyone and everyone giants, just so that they could gain some experience points.

Problem: People hopping clan to clan and donating giants; effectively messing up others' game-play by donating wrong troops
Suggestion/Solution:
Providing an option in clan settings, where we can choose whether new members can donate troops or not.

EDIT:
Removed a suggestion from my original post. A big thanks to the community for coming out, discussing and helping me remove these:
1. Put a timer like maybe 2 hours, until a new member can donate troops to his clan mates
2. This timer would go away as soon as the player is promoted to elder or a co-leader

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I like being donated giants! :p
And it doesn't effect them much since people in "anyone can join" have their requests stacked down to about 15 minutes ago so all they got to do is remove it from the clan castle and request again. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

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Originally Posted by PureEnergy66

I like being donated giants! :p
And it doesn't effect them much since people in "anyone can join" have their requests stacked down to about 15 minutes ago so all they got to do is remove it from the clan castle and request again. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

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Thanks for your feedback PureEnergy. I would like to clarify to you why this is becoming an issue.

Even you would like to have something else in your clan castle while shutting the game down. So yeah while someone may want giants while raiding, they definitely do not want them when defending. So that's why majority of donating clans have banned giant donations.
Another reasons why people come to our clan not hoping for giants is that getting giants is easy. Even one member can fill up your clan castle if you're TH9 or below.
And the problem is more about intentional wrong donations from those XP seekers that the giant donations per se. It is tarnishing our reputation. And if our regular members stop returning, our community of donators may not survive. :(

I hope you can understand the issue now.

Thanks
-Chi