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My perception is SC changed the weight of King/Queen a lot, and the weight of troop levels as well. The defense buildings are very light weighted. So the .5 strategy will end up hurt ourselves in clan war match. Because we will face an opponent with almost same strong troops and much better defenses.
What do you think?
(This is a clan war topic. But somehow I can't add new post in "clan war" forum, the green button doesn't show).
Defenses are not lightly weighted, one inferno is 4K. Walls are very very high weight now. Definitely don't recommend any th9s maxing out walls. Heroes weigh more, but are weighed properly.
.5 doesn't work with one base. The main thing is, just don't be a fool and drop two infernos or xbows, when you haven't even upgraded one war troop,yet lol. Everyone wants to max defense asap. All that does is pull In tougher opponents that will still 2-3 star your base. Keep your offense ahead of your defense. That's all you need to do. Don't just upgraded defense every time you have enough gold. There is a point that it is just adding weight and not making your base much harder.
I went with the .9 approach, so it's a lot worse for people like me. Plus I can't necessarily give much on opinion since Im a TH X.9 and not a TH X.5.Quote:
Originally Posted by HelloWilly2014
As far as defence, it works. I am ranked below people with purple walls and sub 10 heroes while I have lvl 10 heros and half skull / half lego plus a dozen lava walls. I only upgraded traps and teslas.
My clan mates got x bows. Those make a huge difference in war weight.
This is the key to a well engineered base. I disagree they are weighed properly, heroes offer the largest offensive boost but impact defensive weight minimally. Yes, I'm sure their offensive weight is significant, but I'm also sure offensive weight doesn't significantly impact matchmaking. Simple formula: max heroes, ignore splash. And OP, yes x.5 is still intact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micker99
If you mean 8.5s drawing in a max 8 or very rushed 9 for matchup, yeah I think it's less effective now. I noticed that my clan draws in a mirrored 9 (with xbows) for each 8.5 (+-1) even with 5 to 10 TH8.5s in the lineup.
Also now that walls are weighed much much much more, even if you don't upgrade defenses, your walls still do add a more significant amount of weight. IMO, once you get your offense fairly upgraded and have done all the elixir upgrades.. DE drills, Dark Barracks, storages and what not, just make your way up to TH9.
I followed the 8.5 path but for farming and it worked quite well. But I didn't take part in wars, so I can't help you much on that
You have to realise, what you draw in practice is based on what's available at the time. And if you look at playing trends, people tend to rush more than they max.
Most people can't be bothered waiting for the entire lab time at TH8 and/or hate being stuck boundless elixir while they grind out walls and DE for lab. Most people can't be bothered to grind out 1 Billion gold/elixir worth of walls and 4 million+ DE for heroes at TH9.
Once most people are done maxing defences at a TH, that for them is maxed, they will move on. Hence why you see so many defensively heavy but offensively weak TH9s and TH10s with weak heroes mostly complaining about matchmaking.
So statistically you will face more higher rushed bases than you would lower maxed THs.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/694573-TH8-5-farming-war-strategies-and-upgrade-order?p=5662489#post5662489
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It will keep your war weight lower than clan mates with Xbows so it does help with war. My experience is you will still face opponents that have a full TH9 war base.
OMG Why would you do a .5 if you don't war LOL!!!! The whole point is to keep war weight down...Seriously??!! Do you think it effects who attacks your village?? Wow just wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakiOneS
i use it and it works fine for me. :D
It effects who attacks your village a lot. It just doesn't affect it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micker99
Ummm ok, are your trying to say effect should be affect or just trying to be funny? Trying is the key word.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoriartyLives
pretty sure normal farming is based off of TH level and league. That's it. I would not got TH.5 theory for farming alone. :facepalm:
The strategy is only designed for war. For farming all it does is make you weaker than the average on defense for your level so makes you an easier target. It's silly to go .5 for farming. It's a disadvantage.
As to whether it still works I've been TH 9.5 religiously for 2 months or so now. Haven't done 3rd Xbow or any infernos.
My observation is that while I do draw a TH 10 with infernos ever war, it's a rushed TH 10 in every case. None of the defensive structures are upgraded past a TH 9 level and often not even max TH9. It is a challenge as Infernos kick my butt but I have a chance. My feeling is that if I add infernos too soon I'll be facing very hard TH 10s which I'll have a hard time getting a star on.
My clan has 2 TH8.5s on top and it's def working
We mostly get matched with at least 2 TH9s with xbows but ♥♥♥♥ defences/troops, sometimes no queen, sometimes no 4th spell.
And generally speaking clans with such players are never good overall. Either no participation or really bad attacks