Heroes maxed level idea

I'd like a TH11, I'm not interested in just sitting around. I'm just far less interested in getting into a situation where I have NO choice but to gem in order to keep up with actual max bases. I'm not sure I would upgrade if your idea got implemented, because that would mean missing wars because I'd have heroes upgrading. You're basically asking me to choose between current situation where my resources get wasted, or a situation where my resources get practically wasted (because the upgrade is nearly meaningless without massive amounts of resources) and I now have no practical way to keep up with those who gem max bases.

I'd rather waste resources than be forced to either gem or get run over by those who do. Gemmers will simply gem through all the .1, .2, .3 etc to whatever is now max...then you'll have the same issue...bunch of maxed heroes...except that now it will take farmers years to catch up to what gemmers did in seconds.

Your suggestion puts farmers with Max Th10s at a MASSIVE disadvantage to gemmers with Max TH10s. High loot costs and long upgrade times benefit gemmers and kill farmers.

You're basically encouraging people to never upgrade to TH10, because they will run into a situation where can never max it and will be dominated by those who gem all the little .1s for heroes.

Level 40 Heroes are already very powerful. 3-Starring a maxed TH10 base isn't meant to easy, it just takes lots of skill and practise to be able to do so.

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Originally Posted by hoopstime98

I'd like a TH11, I'm not interested in just sitting around. I'm just far less interested in getting into a situation where I have NO choice but to gem in order to keep up with actual max bases. I'm not sure I would upgrade if your idea got implemented, because that would mean missing wars because I'd have heroes upgrading. You're basically asking me to choose between current situation where my resources get wasted, or a situation where my resources get practically wasted (because the upgrade is nearly meaningless without massive amounts of resources) and I now have no practical way to keep up with those who gem max bases.

I'd rather waste resources than be forced to either gem or get run over by those who do. Gemmers will simply gem through all the .1, .2, .3 etc to whatever is now max...then you'll have the same issue...bunch of maxed heroes...except that now it will take farmers years to catch up to what gemmers did in seconds.

Your suggestion puts farmers with Max Th10s at a MASSIVE disadvantage to gemmers with Max TH10s. High loot costs and long upgrade times benefit gemmers and kill farmers.

You're basically encouraging people to never upgrade to TH10, because they will run into a situation where can never max it and will be dominated by those who gem all the little .1s for heroes.

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That is not such a problem. Do not allow gems for those upgrades or make it very very expensive. Furthermore if we believe that it takes too much resources for the upgrades we can make it cheaper. Let's say 100,000 dark elixir for every 0.1. The numbers can change to what ever we believe it's more fair.
The more expensive the upgrade, the less people would think of spending gems. Imagine spending 10x200,000 dark in gems for 1 upgrade. That is a salary of a person. How many people are willing to spend so much? Not many I believe. Actually thinking about it is 50 for 0.1 upgrade. Thus 500 euros to take your heroe from level 40 to level41. You think there are a lot of people willing to pay that money???
i don't think so. If someone is willing to pay 500 euros for 1 upgrade then that's fine by me. Will he pay another 500 euros for the second upgrade? No way.

thus what you claim with the Gemmers does not stand, as I explained just now.

First, stop promoting your thread on every loosely related thread.


Second, this is a bad idea two main reasons.

- You're asking players to spend 2 million DE and wait 70 days while they can't be in war or (probably more importantly for many) use their heroes to attack and defend for trophies? And for what exactly? From what you described, the upgrade, which you'd only get after spending 2 million, is pretty tiny, so the cost/benefit simply isn't there. So it would give you something to spend DE on once you're maxed, but it wouldn't really engage players to keep playing or give them anything to look forward to (which seems to be what you're going for).

- More importantly, it completely ruins hero upgrades for the eventual TH11 update, if that ever happens. It stands to reason that if/when TH11 comes along, it will include at least another 10 levels of heroes. Who knows, maybe there will even be a third hero, or a defense only hero. Whatever the case though, the BK/AQ upgrades would essentially be useless, especially relative to the other things you could spend DE on, so no one would bother again until they've completely maxed all their other upgrades.


Lastly, I think you're misjudging what keeps maxed players coming back...it's trophies, mainly, and competing in wars. I don't think there's much evidence that suggests there's a high attrition rate among players who finish maxing because they can't upgrade anything, and even if it was there, this wouldn't solve it. You want to increase the excitement among max/near max players, a stopgap measure that gives you a miniscule upgrade for a massive amount of resources isn't going to cut it. You need a major addition...TH11, individual or clan tournaments, more single player levels/monthly challenges, a megabase that the entire clan contributes to upgrading, or even a new troop that adds a variety of possibilities to army configurations would have more of an impact than what you're proposing.

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Originally Posted by Melitto

That is not such a problem. Do not allow gems for those upgrades or make it very very expensive. Furthermore if we believe that it takes too much resources for the upgrades we can make it cheaper. Let's say 100,000 dark elixir for every 0.1. The numbers can change to what ever we believe it's more fair.
The more expensive the upgrade, the less people would think of spending gems. Imagine spending 10x200,000 dark in gems for 1 upgrade. That is a salary of a person. How many people are willing to spend so much? Not many I believe. Actually thinking about it is 50 for 0.1 upgrade. Thus 500 euros to take your heroe from level 40 to level41. You think there are a lot of people willing to pay that money???
i don't think so. If someone is willing to pay 500 euros for 1 upgrade then that's fine by me. Will he pay another 500 euros for the second upgrade? No way.

thus what you claim with the Gemmers does not stand, as I explained just now.

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Do you understand that people spend thousands just to get max level walls? Yeah, they'll spend it on heroes. It doesn't sound like you're a Max TH10. If you were you'd see these guys every day and understand just how much you're hurting farmers (it's not just the loot, it's that you have to sit out 70 days of wars just to upgrade 1 level).

You're not hurting TH9s and below, you're only hurting Max TH10s that don't gem. The very people you're trying to add a feature for, you're basically ruining. Sometimes doing nothing (wasting resources) is a better option than getting shot in the knees (adding a feature which is going to make you significantly worse compared to your previous peers).

I get that it's a well-meaning idea, it's just very clear that you aren't a Max TH10...or if you are you haven't thought through the obvious consequences of implementation (or you're just someone who never attacks and thinks building new stuff is fun just for the fun of it, similar to playing Hay Day or other noncompetitive base-building games).

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Originally Posted by TheScavenger350

Level 40 Heroes are already very powerful. 3-Starring a maxed TH10 base isn't meant to easy, it just takes lots of skill and practise to be able to do so.

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As I have said before my friend thescavenger350, you will not be able to get easily pas the level45. It will take you more than a year. So as you can see you will not be able to get your heroes too op as I have mentioned in my initial posts. Still maxed th10 people will have something to look forward except from clan war of course, which matters the most.

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Originally Posted by awesomness2016

Lastly, I think you're misjudging what keeps maxed players coming back...it's trophies, mainly, and competing in wars. I don't think there's much evidence that suggests there's a high attrition rate among players who finish maxing because they can't upgrade anything, and even if it was there, this wouldn't solve it. You want to increase the excitement among max/near max players, a stopgap measure that gives you a miniscule upgrade for a massive amount of resources isn't going to cut it. You need a major addition...TH11, individual or clan tournaments, more single player levels/monthly challenges, a megabase that the entire clan contributes to upgrading, or even a new troop that adds a variety of possibilities to army configurations would have more of an impact than what you're proposing.

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Agree completely. Even if max TH10s were leaving because there was nothing to do...adding in a time-consuming, monotonous, task that offers little reward isn't going to solve that. Particularly given that what max TH10s really have to do at this point is war and push, and you'd be taking that away since you can't reliably war with a hero down, and pushing is obviously harder. You're basically saying "if you want to be competitive, you need to stop warring and just do small hero upgrades"...that would chase people away far faster than boredom because there isn't something to upgrade.

Also, DE is easy to spend raiding for max Th10s. You just create golem or lava hound based armies and go to it.

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Originally Posted by hoopstime98

Do you understand that people spend thousands just to get max level walls? Yeah, they'll spend it on heroes. It doesn't sound like you're a Max TH10. If you were you'd see these guys every day and understand just how much you're hurting farmers (it's not just the loot, it's that you have to sit out 70 days of wars just to upgrade 1 level).

You're not hurting TH9s and below, you're only hurting Max TH10s that don't gem. The very people you're trying to add a feature for, you're basically ruining. Sometimes doing nothing (wasting resources) is a better option than getting shot in the knees (adding a feature which is going to make you significantly worse compared to your previous peers).

I get that it's a well-meaning idea, it's just very clear that you aren't a Max TH10...or if you are you haven't thought through the obvious consequences of implementation (or you're just someone who never attacks and thinks building new stuff is fun just for the fun of it, similar to playing Hay Day or other noncompetitive base-building games).

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Yep. Actually I'd say this could hurt anyone with a strong enough army to get to the DE storage of a maxed base...which isn't necessarily that hard if they're not particularly interested in trying to guard their DE.


Like I said though, the bigger issue to me is that if/when TH11 comes along, or maybe Supercell just decides to add more levels to heroes, this completely ruins that.

This is never going to be added. I don't feel like writing a long paragraph so just look at what others have written. It's not happening.

1. I am a maxed out th9 ( defenses and WALLS) with heroes level 20 and 21. To actually spend time to built my walls means I actually play the game a lot.
2. I concider myself a very good player with lots of 3 star attacks on th9. Gowipe with 6 hogs, golavaloon, goho. Those are my favorite types of attacks. I never attack with a stereotype attack. I always make slight changes to a general type of attack based on the opponents base weakness. Thus I have a high rate of 3 star attacks.
3. I have build a base that had given me 65 defenses in less than a week when I was at 3300 trophies as a th9.

Thus us I believe I know a few things about what I am talking about.
A. I do not disagree that the amount of dark elixir I proposed might be too high. Let's concider a lower amount.
B. I assume the real disadvantage of this idea would be how to implement it if a th11 upgrade ever comes out and as someone mentioned above you would perhaps get a 10 level upgrade capability.