Unfair Trophy System?

One person hates losing cups while his TH is exposed. One hates finding 1 cup offer -39 cup loss.

I can only think these guys have no idea how worst it is in Legends league. To give you a bit of an idea, we often find 1cup offer on a 2-5h straight search on a 6h session. Worst raid I had was yesterday, 2 cup gained, 2 raids in 6h straight push. While we lose almost automatic -18 to -39 on defense. And a defense win gives us literally 0 cups. And none of us complain in here.

One must understand that as you go higher in trophy, it is only natural for the game to get tougher and tougher. Only thing to do is tough it out.

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Originally Posted by MissJayAlexander

Exactly! You are right.

The right word is not unfair, it's poorly designed.

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I sort of agree with this also but bear in mind that a system based solely on base strength would also have its complications.

I think they would need to also change the star system to remove the incentive to leave TH out and to drop cups as a means of dealing with people who don't care about cups just loot.

Otherwise low cup heavy weight bases would create all sorts of distortions to the benefit of those prepared to endlessly next to find them (maybe even more than now). These issues could all be addressed but it would require a substantial redesign.

The ability to not care about cups also keeps casual, premmie or simply bad players incentivised to stick with the game by letting them steal from weak bases at low levels. Not sure how that would be addressed (or if it should be) under a base strength system.

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Originally Posted by PedroLee

One person hates losing cups while his TH is exposed. One hates finding 1 cup offer -39 cup loss.

I can only think these guys have no idea how worst it is in Legends league. To give you a bit of an idea, we often find 1cup offer on a 2-5h straight search on a 6h session. Worst raid I had was yesterday, 2 cup gained, 2 raids in 6h straight push. While we lose almost automatic -18 to -39 on defense. And a defense win gives us literally 0 cups. And none of us complain in here.

One must understand that as you go higher in trophy, it is only natural for the game to get tougher and tougher. Only thing to do is tough it out.

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Ok, so we can't complain of the poorly designed trophy system just because the situation is even worst in higher leagues...


These SC defenders and their silly arguments...

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Originally Posted by PedroLee

One person hates losing cups while his TH is exposed. One hates finding 1 cup offer -39 cup loss.

I can only think these guys have no idea how worst it is in Legends league. To give you a bit of an idea, we often find 1cup offer on a 2-5h straight search on a 6h session. Worst raid I had was yesterday, 2 cup gained, 2 raids in 6h straight push. While we lose almost automatic -18 to -39 on defense. And a defense win gives us literally 0 cups. And none of us complain in here.

One must understand that as you go higher in trophy, it is only natural for the game to get tougher and tougher. Only thing to do is tough it out.

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I will have to argue with you on that, as "tough it out" is not a proper response to defend the statement. Your saying that because I'm ahead of the curve and more persistent than the rest of my peers means I should suck it up? How is that fair. Higher town halls, regardless of trophies should not have the ability to clean out my trophy cabinet just cause they showed up. It's discouraging. Poor design flaw but they can't get everything right.

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Originally Posted by MissJayAlexander

Exactly! You are right.

The right word is not unfair, it's poorly designed.

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It's designed perfectly, if you want to get a reward for defeating bases based on base strengths you can war. If you do it your way, then trophies are meaningless because the highest players are just going to endlessly beat up high bases and have an infinite amount of trophies, thus making trophies completely meaningless. The trophy system works because the higher you climb the harder trophies are to get. You guys complain that it's "broken" because it's hard to climb, but that's the point of the system, to make it hard to push.

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Originally Posted by MissJayAlexander

Ok, so we can't complain of the poorly designed trophy system just because the situation is even worst in higher leagues...


These SC defenders and their silly arguments...

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No, it's that you have no idea how the system you're complaining about works and are ignorant of the consequences of doing it your way.

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Originally Posted by kcresj

DUDE!!! you are getting attack by people on the same league and oferring 20 to 30 trophys thats normal, you are giving me the right xD you are attacking people lower in trophy count than you, how do you think you are goint to win more trophy? lol

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Skawk all you want but I should be able to get more trophy when I get a high percent on a tough th9. I'll take two or three trophy so when I wax town hall 8's, because it's easy. But when I strat out a th9 and get 69% on a two star, then I expect more of a reward than "here is a single cup for you to cry into, because a town hall 9 is coming to take it and the other 19 away from you". Higher town halls should not get that benefit

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Originally Posted by joNDel

I wouldn't say that the trophy system is "unfair". It's fair if it's the same for everyone - which in fact it is.

I would say that it is a poorly designed system. To me, trophy's should be awarded based on the relative difficulty of the bases involved, rather than their current trophy count. But, SC never asked my opinion... :smirk:

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That would cause huge trophy inflation. They way the system currently works, it gets harder and harder to get trophies the higher you go, which seems reasonable. It also puts somewhat of a cap on the maximum number of trophies, since gaining trophies when you're at the top is almost impossible.

If you were awarded trophies only on difficulty of base, then the top players would just keep climbing and it would be literally impossibly for anyone to reach them. Is that the kind of game that you want? Just imagine if you joined a race and someone had a 3 year head start on you. Would you even try to catch up?

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Originally Posted by tyler4

You guys complain that it's "broken" because it's hard to climb, but that's the point of the system, to make it hard to push.

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No, not broken.

Poorly designed :smirk:

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Originally Posted by tyler4

It's designed perfectly, if you want to get a reward for defeating bases based on base strengths you can war. If you do it your way, then trophies are meaningless because the highest players are just going to endlessly beat up high bases and have an infinite amount of trophies, thus making trophies completely meaningless. The trophy system works because the higher you climb the harder trophies are to get. You guys complain that it's "broken" because it's hard to climb, but that's the point of the system, to make it hard to push.

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