This is what defenseless account do to the war match making

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Originally Posted by dorsan

Actually you are the one spreading untruths and making false argumens. Just as you did right now. Here is our clan war history, so that much about your assumptions about me.

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Decent record, but with a clan history record of 80-42, it is really nothing to write mom.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

This is simply not true. So far we've been only matched with defenseless bases in 3 wars. In all 3 of those wars we didn't have an extra th9 for the enemy defenseless th9. We had the same number of th9s as them, same number of th8s as them and then for our 4 th7s they had 2 th7s and 2 defenseless th9s. And it was very similar in the other wars as well. So clearly the defenseless bases weren't counted as same town hall level upgraded bases at all.

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So you are complaining the fact that enemy has ONE freaking extra TH9? I count your clan has at least 10 TH9s...
Since when TH level is relevant...weight is all that matters...

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Originally Posted by TangoFever

So you are complaining the fact that enemy has ONE freaking extra TH9? I count your clan has at least 10 TH9s...
Since when TH level is relevant...weight is all that matters...

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No, I am not complaining about that actually. I am against the whole idea of meta gaming purely from moral standpoint.

We actually won those wars, so this is not about me being mad or anything like that. I don't have a personal agenda in this. I just think it is not fair play to abuse the matchmaker.

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Originally Posted by TangoFever

Decent record, but with a clan history record of 80-42, it is really nothing to write mom.

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I didn't post that to brag. I just wanted to disprove his point that I am losing wars 24/7. Also, where did you get the 42 from? I am counting the losses, and I am at 39 right now. If my number is incorrect somehow, I want to correct it.

PS: We are not an engineered or serious war clan. Started the clan at th lvl 5 and we just grew together.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

This is simply not true. So far we've been only matched with defenseless bases in 3 wars. In all 3 of those wars we didn't have an extra th9 for the enemy defenseless th9. We had the same number of th9s as them, same number of th8s as them and then for our 4 th7s they had 2 th7s and 2 defenseless th9s. And it was very similar in the other wars as well. So clearly the defenseless bases weren't counted as same town hall level upgraded bases at all.

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Getting a defenseless nine would be hard or expensive. You aren't getting snipes with that much de.

It's kind of cheesy but generally the bottom bases have the least effect on war matching. ( no real evidence but I've been in a lot of wars). Your better off putting your energy into learning how to three star nines than argue on the internet over the merits of defenseless bases.

In the example above they only advantage they had were 4 xtra th9 attacks which may or not be a big deal depending on their lab/hero situation.

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Originally Posted by Stroodoftheloom

Getting a defenseless nine would be hard or expensive. You aren't getting snipes with that much de.

It's kind of cheesy but generally the bottom bases have the least effect on war matching. ( no real evidence but I've been in a lot of wars). Your better off putting your energy into learning how to three star nines than argue on the internet over the merits of defenseless bases.

In the example above they only advantage they had were 4 xtra th9 attacks which may or not be a big deal depending on their lab/hero situation.

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No. Dorsan has one less TH9, and enemy has 2 defenseless TH9. Therefore only 2 extra TH9 attacks for enemy, but enemy also two TH9 freebee bases. Fair match I would say.

Guys, this is no longer a rational or logical debate. dorsan just declared that it is a moral issue, and by definition is subjective. He wants to police how all players play the game and the game mechanics to be altered to suit his personal biased subjective narrative. In one hand he claims defenceless villages make the game impossible for some players, yet in the other hand he claims he is winning all such encounters. He is beyond reason.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Nazrhael;5643478]The entire purpose of a strategy game develop strategies within the confines of the game to gain an advantage. Other wise no strategies can exist... Everything within the game is legit or nothing is. You cannot draw an arbitrary line within the rules where you define as OK and not OK. That is Your perceived limited notion of strategy and not the games actual limits on strategy.

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Exactly, like I said you cant argue with stupid. These fools apparently think everyone need to play the STRATEGY game of clash of clans the exact same way. Im sure they wonder why they fail at every every tower defense game they tried before too when they built the same tower in the same spot every time. Can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink. Cant argue with idiots cause they fail to understand that outside of a limited point of view.

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Originally Posted by draco81

...you cant argue with stupid. These fools...
...they wonder why they fail at every every tower defense...
Can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink. Cant argue with idiots...

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This is what your side of the argument looks like. You really proved that you have the moral high ground and are clearly the person who is able to decide what is right and what is wrong. Congratulations to you, sir.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

This is what your side of the argument looks like. You really proved that you have the moral high ground and are clearly the person who is able to decide what is right and what is wrong. Congratulations to you, sir.

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Actually no. Dorsan: you are the one who wants to decide what is right or wrong way to play this game. Draco (me and many others here) is advocating that the game can be played anyway one likes, as long as it is within the confine rules of the game.

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Originally Posted by TangoFever

Actually no. Dorsan: you are the one who wants to decide what is right or wrong way to play this game. Draco (me and many others here) is advocating that the game can be played anyway one likes, as long as it is within the confine rules of the game.

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I am advocating the same. However those rules are not fixed. They change from time to time. Walls didn't count into your weight, now they do. I am arguing that offense isn't balanced properly in the current matchmaking. Also when you're on the same side with a guy who is calling other people stupid, idiot and so on, it might be the time to rethink your position. Especially if we are discussing fair play.