This is what defenseless account do to the war match making

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Originally Posted by dorsan

And what if we apply your logic to fluffy bunnies?

Let's see:
Fluffy bunnies are a strategic exploitation to gain an advantage for War. It is not however ch'ting because the rules are the same for everybody, and everybody has access and the ability to download fluffy bunnies. Thus as much as you dislike the strategy, it is completely fair and just.

Look, it works perfectly? Flawless logic, innit?

Show me a player that has only 1 account and that 1 account is defenseless, and I'll say, that guy is using a strategy. But there are no such guys. Defenseless bases are exclusively secondary accounts used for abusing the matchmaker. And if/when this is fixed all those bases will be abandoned, because none of those bases are the main bases of said people.

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Your logic is flawed. Fluffy Bunnies are not a part of the game and as such is not available to the majority of the players. It is a clear violation of the SC T&C. Because it is not a part of the game that is readily available to all players and is clearly breaking the rules it is neither fair nor just.

You want to dictate how players must play the game? Where does this end? 3* strategies are exploiting the damage/HP algorithms and must be fixed? Nerf everything else because other players wish to legitimately play the game in a different manner to you?

Oh, and for the record bases with maxed offence bases can transition to full bases quite easily because a strong solid farming foundations already there.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

Using defenseless bases is ♥♥♥♥♥ing.

You don't make a defenseless base because it is fun, you make it because it allows you to abuse the matchmaker.

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FYI defenceless bases existed before clan wars ever did. Furthermore clans of defenceless bases also existed before clan wars ever did. Please don't make assumptions as to what constitutes fun for others.

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Originally Posted by Nazrhael

Your logic is flawed. Fluffy Bunnies are not a part of the game and as such is not available to the majority of the players. It is a clear violation of the SC T&C. Because it is not a part of the game that is readily available to all players and is clearly breaking the rules it is neither fair nor just.

You want to dictate how players must play the game? Where does this end? 3* strategies are exploiting the damage/HP algorithms and must be fixed? Nerf everything else because other players wish to legitimately play the game in a different manner to you?

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Ok, so now let's apply your response to your original post and let's see if it fits it as well:
Your logic is flawed. Secondary defenseless bases are not part of the game (you have to actually delete app data and switch your google play account in order to log to a secondary account, or to buy a whole new device) and as such are not available to the majority of the players. It is a clear violation of the SC T&C (you might be surprised, but it does say you can't play 2 accounts on the same device). Because it is not a part of the game that is readily available to all players and is clearly breaking the rules it is neither fair nor just.

Oh, look, it is a perfect response to your original post about the defenseless bases as well. Doesn't it seem weird that fluffy bunnies and defenseless bases can be defended/attacked in the EXACT same way with the EXACT same words? What does that tell you?



I don't want to dictate players how to play. If a player starts an account and makes it defenseless from the get go, it is his right. But making secondary accounts to abuse matchmaker has nothing to do with the way you play.

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Originally Posted by JKL2207

FYI defenceless bases existed before clan wars ever did. Furthermore clans of defenceless bases also existed before clan wars ever did. Please don't make assumptions as to what constitutes fun for others.

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No one would complain about a clan of defenseless bases because they would simply draw in every single war. We have problems with SECONDARY defenseless bases paired with a highly defended base of slightly lower power than the defenseless base's attack. Do not confuse the 2.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

No one would complain about a clan of defenseless bases because they would simply draw in every single war. We have problems with SECONDARY defenseless bases paired with a highly defended base of slightly lower power than the defenseless base's attack. Do not confuse the 2.

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There were complaints against defenceless clans when wars came out and the complaints weren't because the wars ended in draws, the complaints were from TH7 and below clans drawing defenceless clans and not being able to beat them.

This issue was resolved by SC changing the algorithm resulting in defenceless clans going on for days without finding any matches I think many eventually gave up.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

Ok, so now let's apply your response to your original post and let's see if it fits it as well:
Your logic is flawed. Secondary defenseless bases are not part of the game (you have to actually delete app data and switch your google play account in order to log to a secondary account, or to buy a whole new device) and as such are not available to the majority of the players. It is a clear violation of the SC T&C (you might be surprised, but it does say you can't play 2 accounts on the same device). Because it is not a part of the game that is readily available to all players and is clearly breaking the rules it is neither fair nor just.

Oh, look, it is a perfect response to your original post about the defenseless bases as well. Doesn't it seem weird that fluffy bunnies and defenseless bases can be defended/attacked in the EXACT same way with the EXACT same words? What does that tell you?



I don't want to dictate players how to play. If a player starts an account and makes it defenseless from the get go, it is his right. But making secondary accounts to abuse matchmaker has nothing to do with the way you play.

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You are not applying the same logic; you are altering key facts of the arguments. How a player wish to upgrade the their Village is a part of the game; Fluffy Bunnies are not.

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2nd accounts can be switched in settings in the game, and many players have multiple devices. It is not a violation of the game T&C. Your information is outdated and you are completely wrong.

Sorry... not even close...

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Originally Posted by Nazrhael

You are not applying the same logic; you are altering key facts of the arguments. How a player wish to upgrade the their Village is a part of the game; Fluffy Bunnies are not.

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How a player wish to upgrade their Village is indeed a part of the game. Making several accounts to manipulate the matchmaker isn't.

Listen, I understand. If making secondary accounts is the only way your clan can win wars, then do it, but don't come to me and clam it is fair play or any form of skill or strategy. It simply isn't.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

How a player wish to upgrade their Village is indeed a part of the game. Making several accounts to manipulate the matchmaker isn't.

Listen, I understand. If making secondary accounts is the only way your clan can win wars, then do it, but don't come to me and clam it is fair play or any form of skill or strategy. It simply isn't.

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Comparing how someone uses strategy within the framework of the game, a same strategy everyone can do if they so chose in a ..... STRATEGY game to those who use things outside to change/manipulate the framework. Yea you can't argue with stupid I guess.

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Originally Posted by draco81

Comparing how someone uses strategy within the framework of the game, a same strategy everyone can do if they so chose in a ..... STRATEGY game to those who use things outside to change/manipulate the framework. Yea you can't argue with stupid I guess.

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Army composition (inc. deployment), clan composition (inc. TH distribution), and village composition (inc. layout) are all within the framework of the game. Some players have an arbitrarily limited view in how the game should and must be played and thus are unable to accept strategies beyond their limited view as a part of the game. I don't know, maybe they are just butt hurt they lost to better organised clans with advanced strategies they cannot replicate.

Personally I have maxed my first account (40/40 with 79 walls left) and want to try out various strategies with my 2nd account to have some fun. Quite frankly to play the game all over again in the identical fashion would be boring as hell. I'm sure there are many players the same in the same boat.

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Originally Posted by Blissbomb

How much strategy goes into a defenceless account? It's a cheap party trick to get easy match ups. Let's not try and put lipstick on a pig

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Quite the opposite actually. In order to get to sufficiently high levels of output with nothing defending your loot takes quite some dedication. Try save for 40/40 Heroes with an exposed DE Storage. Took me long enough with my maxed main where nobody attacks me, like ever.

For the record I don't have a defenceless account.