This is what defenseless account do to the war match making

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Originally Posted by TangoFever

Actually no. Dorsan: you are the one who wants to decide what is right or wrong way to play this game. Draco (me and many others here) is advocating that the game can be played anyway one likes, as long as it is within the confine rules of the game.

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exactly, play however you want as long as its within the confines.
only want to up BARCH and have lvl 1 gol with lvl3 bows? go for it, enjoy!
idc how you play within the confines.

AGAIN maxxing is an outdated strategy ever since walls became weighted.
Its like a grandpa saying that gum should still be a nickle. Times change aka strategies change
you either adapt and work with it or get left behind plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

I am advocating the same. However those rules are not fixed. They change from time to time. Walls didn't count into your weight, now they do. I am arguing that offense isn't balanced properly in the current matchmaking. Also when you're on the same side with a guy who is calling other people stupid, idiot and so on, it might be the time to rethink your position. Especially if we are discussing fair play.

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u even kno!!
walls are weighted now, sooooo strategic wall upgrading maybe???? that would make sense to most people i would think......

you can only bang your head on the wall soooo much before it gives you a headache and you get grumpy.

and yes, maybe insane would have been better than stupid? and i used stupid cause you guys keep using the same misguided and (heres why) stupid aruguements that make it seem like you dont get it no matter how hard we try to help.
so insane maybe, thats one of the deffintions of insanity right? doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result

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Originally Posted by draco81

Its like a grandpa saying that gum should still be a nickle. Times change aka strategies change
you either adapt and work with it or get left behind plain and simple.

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So making a second account is now adapting to game changes? Nice.

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Originally Posted by draco81

u even kno!!
walls are weighted now, sooooo strategic wall upgrading maybe???? that would make sense to most people i would think......

and yes, maybe insane would have been better than stupid? and i used stupid cause you guys keep using the same misguided and (heres why) stupid aruguements that make it seem like you dont get it no matter how hard we try to help.
so insane maybe, thats one of the deffintions of insanity right? doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result

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I don't think I even need to highlight what's wrong with this post.

wow. i can't believe this thread is still going.

just sounds like 1 guy trolling an army of people. how often do you guys run in to engineered/defenseless bases anyhow? bunnies we see plenty, but defenseless? rare.


a typical defenseless th9 will bring a mid th8 w/ 2 lvl 1 xbows. this has been proven over and over again. the problem is, this premi th9 will lack the skills needed to attack a decent base, but the defenseless owner will typically yield the skillset of a th10 player as this is likely his n'th account.


but arguing about a phenomenon such as defenseless is quite pointless, as you rarely see them, and when you do, it's 1 account amongst 30 bases. If you lose in a 30 man war and 1 base was defenseless, you probably got smashed anyhow.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

So making a second account is now adapting to game changes? Nice.



I don't think I even need to highlight what's wrong with this post.

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so SC cant make changes to the game?

every change they make has the possibility of hurting or helping every account

Im a firm believer in not sugar coating everything, tell everyone like it is. Be honest. Nothing will change if everyone is jus blowing smoke.

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Originally Posted by toefu

wow. i can't believe this thread is still going.

just sounds like 1 guy trolling an army of people. how often do you guys run in to engineered/defenseless bases anyhow? bunnies we see plenty, but defenseless? rare.


a typical defenseless th9 will bring a mid th8 w/ 2 lvl 1 xbows. this has been proven over and over again. the problem is, this premi th9 will lack the skills needed to attack a decent base, but the defenseless owner will typically yield the skillset of a th10 player as this is likely his n'th account.


but arguing about a phenomenon such as defenseless is quite pointless, as you rarely see them, and when you do, it's 1 account amongst 30 bases. If you lose in a 30 man war and 1 base was defenseless, you probably got smashed anyhow.

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agreed has to be a troll, why else would same off the wall arguements be made with little to no common sense.
good call

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Originally Posted by draco81

so SC cant make changes to the game?

every change they make has the possibility of hurting or helping every account

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Do you even understand what this thread is about?

It is not about prioritizing offenses before defenses during upgrades. It is about bases that have high offense, and no defense whatsoever. These bases have to be made with no defenses and no walls at all from town hall level 1 all the way up.

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Originally Posted by toefu

how often do you guys run in to engineered/defenseless bases anyhow? bunnies we see plenty, but defenseless? rare.

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It is rare, and it isn't a real problem in game. However the people arguing with me in this thread do use this. And since it is a cheap tactic, I am calling them out on it. And they are getting very defensive. So the thread goes on. SC can keep the matchmaker, or change it, it is up to them. But I won't start pretending that these guys making those bases are actually not just trying to get easy wins. From where I stand, making a defenseless base or using fluffy bunnies is the same thing. Getting an easy win.

But it doesn't really end there. I've seen a clan of experienced maxed people on th3-th5 accounts fighting legit new players and using th10 reinforcements. Stuff like that is just wrong. It feels like an adult picking a fight with a 5 years old and then being proud of himself because he won.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

I am advocating the same. However those rules are not fixed. They change from time to time. Walls didn't count into your weight, now they do. I am arguing that offense isn't balanced properly in the current matchmaking. Also when you're on the same side with a guy who is calling other people stupid, idiot and so on, it might be the time to rethink your position. Especially if we are discussing fair play.

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No matter what the rules are there will never be "fair play" in your narrative because in such a complex game no matter how the weight is distributed there will be permutations of strategies in advantageous positions. You are simply incontent that you're not in that position. You are changing your positions now to suit your argument; it was mere posts ago that you were name calling players as equivalent to Fluffy Bunnies, ch'ters, metagsmers, exploiters, agsinst T&C, etc. Are you now conceding that defenceless is a completely legitimate strategy which players are entitled to explore?

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Originally Posted by dorsan

It is rare, and it isn't a real problem in game. However the people arguing with me in this thread do use this. And since it is a cheap tactic, I am calling them out on it. And they are getting very defensive. So the thread goes on. SC can keep the matchmaker, or change it, it is up to them. But I won't start pretending that these guys making those bases are actually not just trying to get easy wins. From where I stand, making a defenseless base or using fluffy bunnies is the same thing. Getting an easy win.

But it doesn't really end there. I've seen a clan of experienced maxed people on th3-th5 accounts fighting legit new players and using th10 reinforcements. Stuff like that is just wrong. It feels like an adult picking a fight with a 5 years old and then being proud of himself because he won.

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So now you're against Clans of great diversity in TH distributions? Wow. You want some kind of TH range restrictions in clans too? Where does this end?