Increase Dark Elixir War Win Bonus For Clan War

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October 1st, 2015
JeffNicolas

Increase Dark Elixir War Win Bonus For Clan War

I usually attack in CW 5 to 6 golems which costs 750 dark elixir each.. this sums up to 4500 dark elixir.. and what do i get as a clan war bonus for 1 attack, 2500 to 3000++ dark elixir.. this is not helping me or other players get enough back to what i spent and even donated during clan wars.. i know some people would probably say, then avoid using 5 to 6 golems.. so now i have to budget my use of dark troops to get a break even in clan war bonuses.. i don't think thats right as it affects the strategy of every players.. if only giants would last that long i would probably stick to it but thats a different case.. come on guys lets do the math and support this recommendation to increase dark elixir war win bonus in clan war... clash on guys..
October 1st, 2015
Envisionary

Find different troops to attack in war with...? If it really matters to you, don't war. It's fine how it is, end of discussion
October 1st, 2015
itmustbeaustin

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Originally Posted by JeffNicolas

I usually attack in CW 5 to 6 golems which costs 750 dark elixir each.. this sums up to 4500 dark elixir.. and what do i get as a clan war bonus for 1 attack, 2500 to 3000++ dark elixir.. this is not helping me or other players get enough back to what i spent and even donated during clan wars.. i know some people would probably say, then avoid using 5 to 6 golems.. so now i have to budget my use of dark troops to get a break even in clan war bonuses.. i don't think thats right as it affects the strategy of every players.. if only giants would last that long i would probably stick to it but thats a different case.. come on guys lets do the math and support this recommendation to increase dark elixir war win bonus in clan war... clash on guys..

This is something I agree with, people should use the most optimal setup to win their attacks, and thus win wars, they should not be worried that it costs them more DE to use an optimal setup then they get back.

If somebody were to say "find something else to attack with", you should just dismiss them as unreasonable and ignorant. Wars should be fought with optimal setups. I believe you shouldn't have to suffer from losing DE because you attacked in an optimal fashion, won both your attacks, and helped your clan to win a war. Some might disagree, and think that losing the DE is the price you pay to win the war, that however is a separate argument.
October 1st, 2015
daz258

I agree the DE loot should be improved a little.

Not necessarily due to Golems, but the loot rewards have not changed since the introduction of Dark Elixir spells.

We are paying more since those spells were added, but getting the same loot as before.
October 1st, 2015
itmustbeaustin

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Originally Posted by daz258

I agree the DE loot should be improved a little.

Not necessarily due to Golems, but the loot rewards have not changed since the introduction of Dark Elixir spells.

We are paying more since those spells were added, but getting the same loot as before.

Completely correct. Witches also cost an arm and a leg in the DE department.
October 1st, 2015
JeffNicolas

its for everyones benefit!

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Originally Posted by Envisionary

Find different troops to attack in war with...? If it really matters to you, don't war. It's fine how it is, end of discussion

You would know what i'm talking about when you reach town hall 10 and attack a fully maxed out base..
October 1st, 2015
herranton

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Originally Posted by JeffNicolas

You would know what i'm talking about when you reach town hall 10 and attack a fully maxed out base..

If the loot gets too good, people might be more apt to snipe. I think that it might be time for sc to take a look at the loot though, just to make sure they think it is optimized.
October 1st, 2015
Talisman

i agree with u for this

We dont expext to get all cost, but at least 70% of all cost would be fine. If supercell can give 100% for the cost, would be better.
For a th9, using gowiwi in attk would be very high cost...so i suggest to add some more to encourage people to do more war
October 1st, 2015
JeffNicolas

sample attack computation.

4 golem (max) = 3000 dark elix
+ 2 witch (max) = 500 dark elix
total = 3500
My last CW attack against th10 fully maxed out base, the dark elixir war win bonus was 3105 Dark elix..
if you do the math its really not enough.. now i have seen some players use 6 golems attack..
Please support this idea guys.. its for all of us..
October 1st, 2015
JeffNicolas

need all support for this idea

Clashers pls help me promote this idea to supercell..
October 1st, 2015
MrHuntSeanDown

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Originally Posted by JeffNicolas

Clashers pls help me promote this idea to supercell..

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffNicolas

4 golem (max) = 3000 dark elix
+ 2 witch (max) = 500 dark elix
total = 3500
My last CW attack against th10 fully maxed out base, the dark elixir war win bonus was 3105 Dark elix..
if you do the math its really not enough.. now i have seen some players use 6 golems attack..
Please support this idea guys.. its for all of us..

Hi. Overall I kinda like your idea,but please,do not bump your thread. I also been using mass golems and worked well these few weeks. Also with the introduction of Dark Spell,the DE war loot might need to be slightly increased.
October 1st, 2015
JeffNicolas

i had to bump it..

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Originally Posted by MrHuntSeanDown

Hi. Overall I kinda like your idea,but please,do not bump your thread. I also been using mass golems and worked well these few weeks. Also with the introduction of Dark Spell,the DE war loot might need to be slightly increased.

I had to because there are lots of crazy ideas coming out there that does not need changing but gets more attention..
October 1st, 2015
TheDragonClasher

I agree. I find that I can make more loot from farming rather than wasting time going to war.

I think that if you war and end up winning the war, it should definitely be worth while.
October 1st, 2015
Dstrugar95

I'll agree with this I mean I don't really use much dark elixir in wars cause my GiWipe doesn't need much Golems right now but It would be nice to g t some extra DE so I could level up my king & troops faster
October 1st, 2015
PhilISuppose

If SuperCell wanted wars to give us decent loot then they would have already done it.

Personally I think it's the storages in the warbases that should hold more loot, not the win bonus.

More loot would be nice though, can't deny that.
October 2nd, 2015
JeffNicolas

i hope they will..

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Originally Posted by PhilISuppose

If SuperCell wanted wars to give us decent loot then they would have already done it.

Personally I think it's the storages in the warbases that should hold more loot, not the win bonus.

More loot would be nice though, can't deny that.

Well thats not a bad idea to increase the loot in normal raid.. for max th10 i would definitely support that but for th9 or 8 i doubt they would consider that..
October 3rd, 2015
JeffNicolas

please need your support..

Need all clashers support to highlight this idea..
October 3rd, 2015
jzitovsky

I agree. Almost all war attacks (GoWiWiPe, GoWiPe, GoLaLoon, PentaLaLoon, GoHoWiWi, HoLoWiWi, LavaLoonian etc) costs more DE than is gained if the war is won.
October 3rd, 2015
Ariesram

Wholeheartedly Agree

Not only can you not make back the DE in war loot from your own attacks, some mates make max golems/witches/hounds for others to use in war, plus filling CCs for defense. It's easy to spend over 10k DE in war and you likely can get 4k back as long as both attacks are won. Very unbalanced imo.
October 4th, 2015
KuroShinryu

Hmm I don't have much to add but I want to give my support. In general, there's not enough D/E (my opinion). So better drills and better war AND league dark elixir bonuses would be welcome.
October 4th, 2015
JeffNicolas

need more support..

We need all the support we can get.. check your attack troops in clan war whether you are getting enough dark elixir war win bonus.. do the math.. i didnt bother checking before..
October 7th, 2015
JeffNicolas

support pls

Help us guys promote this change to the war clan loot..
November 27th, 2016
pyro314

Necro'ing because this thread is so relevant.

GoVaHo, one of the most popular war strategies, costs at least 3k DE. A fully Max TH9 offers less than 2500 DE, but 500K Gold/Elixir. Who TF is spending 500K Elixir at TH9? The Clan War Loot Bonus needs to be Reworked. Th9 should offer at MINIUMUM 3k Dark Elixir. There is no need for such a high G/E reward, when DE is by far the most needed resource at TH9, and the most spent resource in Clan Wars. It is ridiculous that players who want to do well for their clan must waste 1500+ Dark Elixir for wars.
November 27th, 2016
BlackDragonD

i don't understand the logic of this - do you think that wars attacks should be "free" in terms of resources?? why?
perhaps next step is making donations free? and lets move one step forward - free loot dropping from the sky all the time...
i donate more troops every day than i spend in 2 wars, so what? should i ask for donations to be free?

comeon, wars are contribution to the clan team effort just like donations are.

If you try to farm in war then you probably miss the point of wars in the first place.
November 27th, 2016
BigBic

This my friend is a great suggestion. In war you should be able to use any ridiculously expensive attack and make your moneys back as long as you're attacking an equivalent TH (ie. If a Th11 attacks a Th8 then he shouldn't make all his money back). It baffles me that people don't support this. It's like they want the game to suffer more and more. Why is a Th11 making 800k elixir and gold and only 3500 DE when his attack is mainly DE. His attack also costs the identical amount as a Th10s. Top games such as LOL and DOTA know that when they add a new feature they can't include trolling into their decision making process. Trolling will happen in every game no matter the circumstances. New game decisions should be made strictly on how normal players will use the feature. Let trolls have their fun but don't let them dictate new features not being added to the game because otherwise the game will barely progress (CURRENT STATE OF COC).
November 27th, 2016
EvilEmpire

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Originally Posted by JeffNicolas

We need all the support we can get.. check your attack troops in clan war whether you are getting enough dark elixir war win bonus.. do the math.. i didnt bother checking before..

I agree that DE bonus in wars should be higher, by at least a factor of 1.5 or 2, but just so you know for the future you cannot bump your threads.
November 28th, 2016
pyro314

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Originally Posted by BlackDragonD

i don't understand the logic of this - do you think that wars attacks should be "free" in terms of resources?? why?
perhaps next step is making donations free? and lets move one step forward - free loot dropping from the sky all the time...
i donate more troops every day than i spend in 2 wars, so what? should i ask for donations to be free?

comeon, wars are contribution to the clan team effort just like donations are.

If you try to farm in war then you probably miss the point of wars in the first place.

I'm not trying to farm in wars. I would like to be rewarded for doing a good attack and winning the war with my clan mates. Last war we won I spent almost 6k Dark and got 5 stars, and got less than 5k back, but I had over a million Gold and a million Elixir. That looks more like farming to me than if SC would balance the reward system. I shouldn't be punished by over a thousand Dark Elixir, just to do well.

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Originally Posted by EvilEmpire

I agree that DE bonus in wars should be higher, by at least a factor of 1.5 or 2, but just so you know for the future you cannot bump your threads.

I necro'd the thread after doing a google search and finding it. Though I agree, he did bump it a lot 2 years ago.