Viable attack strat at th 8

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Originally Posted by joshthegreat83

This guy....smh. 🆒

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Have an actual argument or does your head hurt from reading logic?

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Originally Posted by tyler4

More hogs in the CC>> CC witches

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Not with the configuration I use...

I watched what the witches did, taking out defenses faster has more value than them. Sure, they're good for clean up, but one false step and they're dead,and hogs are better for cleanup.

u ll end up with 3 golems hitting a wall ..

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Originally Posted by tyler4

I watched what the witches did, taking out defenses faster has more value than them. Sure, they're good for clean up, but one false step and they're dead,and hogs are better for cleanup.

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The witch was used for cc distraction. ;) I didn't care about the clean up. That's what the golem, witch, and wizards were for. CC first, and whatever they do after is icing on the cake. As you can see by those attacks, extra hogs weren't needed at all. I've yet to attack with the troops I use, and later think that 5 more hogs would have done better. Simple, no. Show me some videos of your attacks, and that the extra hogs were needed.

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Originally Posted by F34RTEHR34PER

The witch was used for cc distraction. ;) I didn't care about the clean up. That's what the golem, witch, and wizards were for. CC first, and whatever they do after is icing on the cake. As you can see by those attacks, extra hogs weren't needed at all. I've yet to attack with the troops I use, and later think that 5 more hogs would have done better. Simple, no. Show me some videos of your attacks, and that the extra hogs were needed.

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Well I'm a TH9 now, so I need to get my hogs up on my mini. It's never about "were the hogs needed", it's about "what's the strongest attack"? The CC is just going to lock onto a golem and get blown out of the sky by the wizards, witches were good for the CCs back before poison spell but not any more IMO. The issue with the witches is that they can't effectively destroy defenses behind walls (all their dps comes from their skeletons which break through walls). It's all about killing all the defenses as quickly as possible and your hogs will jump over the walls, the golem will just lead the wizards and doesn't matter if he's stuck on a wall we don't care about his defense anyway, and the wizards will kill stuff over the walls, whereas the witches.. I just don't see a whole lot of benefit to them given the current contents of CCs and what the poison spell can do to the CCs where witches would be useful.

FWIW, you could have completed that attack without CC witches OR hogs. It becomes an issue when your hogs fail to clear the base, and there CC hogs will save you and witches will do nothing.

As for the kill squad's priority being the CC, that's why normally we have our 8s just take out the CC with their king/6 wizards and have 34 hogs left (one for the pull) for the base. Simpler and if executed right you'll have a pack of 20 hogs cleaning up, which is a beautiful thing to watch.

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Originally Posted by ClashTryNot808

Gowipe is not a TH8 3 star strategy. Sure, it will smash 7s and weak 8s. However it does not stand a chance against max TH8s or even mid-level 8s with good layouts. Most top-notch war clans don't allow gowipe unless its an attack on a TH10.

Goho is the way to go on almost any TH8 base. Surgical for spread out bases with possible dgbs or Asian wall for compact bases. Doesn't matter what the TH8 looks like, there is probably a 3 star goho strategy for it. GoWiVa (huge core bases) and holowiwi (super-spread resource ring bases) are really good also if for some reason, hogs won't cut it.

Gowipe is a TH10 2 star strategy. That is it.

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I am the leader of my clan, and we are becoming 10 vs 10 war experts. We have won 15 of our last 16 wars, and I can tell you for sure, if executed properly, GoWiPe is a 3 star strat at TH8.

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Originally Posted by tyler4

Well I'm a TH9 now, so I need to get my hogs up on my mini. It's never about "were the hogs needed", it's about "what's the strongest attack"? The CC is just going to lock onto a golem and get blown out of the sky by the wizards, witches were good for the CCs back before poison spell but not any more IMO. The issue with the witches is that they can't effectively destroy defenses behind walls (all their dps comes from their skeletons which break through walls). It's all about killing all the defenses as quickly as possible and your hogs will jump over the walls, the golem will just lead the wizards and doesn't matter if he's stuck on a wall we don't care about his defense anyway, and the wizards will kill stuff over the walls, whereas the witches.. I just don't see a whole lot of benefit to them given the current contents of CCs and what the poison spell can do to the CCs where witches would be useful.

FWIW, you could have completed that attack without CC witches OR hogs. It becomes an issue when your hogs fail to clear the base, and there CC hogs will save you and witches will do nothing.

As for the kill squad's priority being the CC, that's why normally we have our 8s just take out the CC with their king/6 wizards and have 34 hogs left (one for the pull) for the base. Simpler and if executed right you'll have a pack of 20 hogs cleaning up, which is a beautiful thing to watch.

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When I find the need to replace the cc with hogs, then we'll talk. Until then, there's nothing wrong with my troop composition, and no need to substitute with more hogs. I'll wait on some vids from ya.

I used 36 hogs, 4 archers, 4 wizards. Cc was 2 witches, 1 barb.

Like stated, I also used the witches and barb for cc distraction and they clean the outside nicely. By the time the hogs finish off the defense, the witches had already cleaned alot of the outside stuff.

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Originally Posted by DirtyWolf

I literally wrote we don't have our th8s attack max th8s, because it's a poor allocation of attacks. I can only assume this "inability" talk is baiting on your part. We have 42 th9+ attacks. We don't need to rehit the 9s with anything like that many. I could say you just admitted your 9s were terrible.

What level is your clan anyways? Ours is 8.

I was looking over your old posts and found this "I loved hogs at TH8 for max 8s, but now DE is far more precious and a double giant bomb can ruin your day, so it's not nearly foolproof enough for attacking a base blind. Sure, you can gohog, but there's still a chance to guess wrong." Seems like we agree hogs are a precarious attack.

Btw, and I posted in that thread, gowipe is the sure 3 star for th9s to clear th8s--funny how you were asking about that, if 9s clearing 8s is not a concern.

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Your clan is still better off if your 8s clear max 8s and you can use all 42 th9 attacks on th9s. Who else are your 8s going to attack once all the squishy bases are cleared? (I'm skeptical of you three starring all th9s making all those attacks irrelevant)

It's why clans where th8s are the bottom get salty when their 8s don't attack twice in the 1st 12 hours.

Clan level has more to do with clan size than skill.