Viable attack strat at th 8

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Originally Posted by DirtyWolf

I said nothing about being cleaned up after. There's redundant attacks in war, there should be more than enough th9 attacks to cover the 9s and the top 8s. It has nothing to do with army compositions and everything to do with a smarter way to allocate attacks.



I don't know who told you that, that's usually what our th8s 3 star with. It's really not that hard if you know what you're doing.

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Because your 8s don't know how to hog. You basically admitted that your 8s struggle to 3 the top 8s, because gowipe doesn't 3 good maxed 8s. There are a surplus of attacks, yes, which is why it's important for the 8s to 3 as many 8s as possible so your 9s can go with as many 3 star attempts as possible rather than dropping down to hit the upper 8s. The way your 8s do that is hogs, not gowipe.

How does your inability for 8s to 3 top 8s have nothing to do with army composition? How is anything other than what I'm saying a better allocation of attacks? The 7s can 3 star all the 7s and below, if you have the 9s hit the 8s your upper 8s don't do anything. My way means more 9 3 star attempts amd all the 8s are 3ed, yours means.. what?

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Originally Posted by tyler4

Because your 8s don't know how to hog. You basically admitted that your 8s struggle to 3 the top 8s, because gowipe doesn't 3 good maxed 8s. There are a surplus of attacks, yes, which is why it's important for the 8s to 3 as many 8s as possible so your 9s can go with as many 3 star attempts as possible rather than dropping down to hit the upper 8s. The way your 8s do that is hogs, not gowipe.

How does your inability for 8s to 3 top 8s have nothing to do with army composition? How is anything other than what I'm saying a better allocation of attacks? The 7s can 3 star all the 7s and below, if you have the 9s hit the 8s your upper 8s don't do anything. My way means more 9 3 star attempts amd all the 8s are 3ed, yours means.. what?

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I literally wrote we don't have our th8s attack max th8s, because it's a poor allocation of attacks. I can only assume this "inability" talk is baiting on your part. We have 42 th9+ attacks. We don't need to rehit the 9s with anything like that many. I could say you just admitted your 9s were terrible.

What level is your clan anyways? Ours is 8.

I was looking over your old posts and found this "I loved hogs at TH8 for max 8s, but now DE is far more precious and a double giant bomb can ruin your day, so it's not nearly foolproof enough for attacking a base blind. Sure, you can gohog, but there's still a chance to guess wrong." Seems like we agree hogs are a precarious attack.

Btw, and I posted in that thread, gowipe is the sure 3 star for th9s to clear th8s--funny how you were asking about that, if 9s clearing 8s is not a concern.

I'm finding my mass hog attacks are failing not because of giant bombs (I pre trigger or heal through them) but by skeleton traps. Getting absolutely destroyed by them!

It's tempting to use the poison to kill the CC or take a dragon down to half health, but you must save that poison for skellies.

Drop the poison over the hogs once they are stationary, attacking a building. They need to be stopped for long enough for the poison to kill skellies.

Anyone else having this issue?

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Originally Posted by poke26

Do you drop the EQ first and then use the lightning?

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I always light the AD, then drop the EQ on it last. I could be wrong, but I don't think it matters what order you do it in.

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Originally Posted by DirtyWolf

I literally wrote we don't have our th8s attack max th8s, because it's a poor allocation of attacks. I can only assume this "inability" talk is baiting on your part. We have 42 th9+ attacks. We don't need to rehit the 9s with anything like that many. I could say you just admitted your 9s were terrible.

What level is your clan anyways? Ours is 8.

I was looking over your old posts and found this "I loved hogs at TH8 for max 8s, but now DE is far more precious and a double giant bomb can ruin your day, so it's not nearly foolproof enough for attacking a base blind. Sure, you can gohog, but there's still a chance to guess wrong." Seems like we agree hogs are a precarious attack.

Btw, and I posted in that thread, gowipe is the sure 3 star for th9s to clear th8s--funny how you were asking about that, if 9s clearing 8s is not a concern.

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GOWIPE is not a sure three star on TH8s though, I've seen it fail numerous time (from my experience, it probably succeeds 70-80% of the time. Far from a sure thing). Loonion, on the other hand, is a sure three star from a TH9 with death loons on a TH8, as OP as level 2 dragons on a TH7. Loonion is also FAR cheaper and quicker to train, why would you ever GOWIPE?

So you're a level 8 clan because you war a lot and have a lot of people, want a cookie? How did I admit that our 9s were terrible? Because I realize not every base is three starred on the first pass and the more attacks you have to hit the toughest bases the better you allocated your attacks? More 9 attacks to hit 9s>less 9 attacks to hit 9s, I don't know how you can argue that. And if you have 42 TH9s and they do the work of the TH8s, who do the TH8s attack, exactly? How is letting them attack TH8s a poor allocation of attacks if they have literally nothing else to attack? I'm confused by your argument.

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Originally Posted by tyler4

GOWIPE is not a sure three star on TH8s though, I've seen it fail numerous time (from my experience, it probably succeeds 70-80% of the time. Far from a sure thing). Loonion, on the other hand, is a sure three star from a TH9 with death loons on a TH8, as OP as level 2 dragons on a TH7. Loonion is also FAR cheaper and quicker to train, why would you ever GOWIPE?

So you're a level 8 clan because you war a lot and have a lot of people, want a cookie? How did I admit that our 9s were terrible? Because I realize not every base is three starred on the first pass and the more attacks you have to hit the toughest bases the better you allocated your attacks? More 9 attacks to hit 9s>less 9 attacks to hit 9s, I don't know how you can argue that. And if you have 42 TH9s and they do the work of the TH8s, who do the TH8s attack, exactly? How is letting them attack TH8s a poor allocation of attacks if they have literally nothing else to attack? I'm confused by your argument.

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Ya I think the reality is that sometimes TH9's have to drop down to 3 the top TH8's, but that shouldn't be the goal. Ideally the top TH8's from your clan do it so the TH9's don't have to, otherwise why bother even having them participate?

"OK, top TH8's, don't even bother using your attacks, our TH9's have it covered."

Rediculous.

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Originally Posted by Ternic

Ya I think the reality is that sometimes TH9's have to drop down to 3 the top TH8's, but that shouldn't be the goal. Ideally the top TH8's from your clan do it so the TH9's don't have to, otherwise why bother even having them participate?

"OK, top TH8's, don't even bother using your attacks, our TH9's have it covered."

Rediculous.

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This. Best attack allocation is to see how many 8s and below your 8s can take out, then cover up their failures with loonions.

I almost exclusively use hogs with some other troops to fill the gaps.. I call it the hogowiwi. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MHIps9ULpk

Here's one from today's war...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaaJLTg4gjc

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Originally Posted by F34RTEHR34PER

I almost exclusively use hogs with some other troops to fill the gaps.. I call it the hogowiwi. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MHIps9ULpk

Here's one from today's war...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaaJLTg4gjc

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More hogs in the CC>> CC witches

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Originally Posted by tyler4

GOWIPE is not a sure three star on TH8s though, I've seen it fail numerous time (from my experience, it probably succeeds 70-80% of the time. Far from a sure thing). Loonion, on the other hand, is a sure three star from a TH9 with death loons on a TH8, as OP as level 2 dragons on a TH7. Loonion is also FAR cheaper and quicker to train, why would you ever GOWIPE?

So you're a level 8 clan because you war a lot and have a lot of people, want a cookie? How did I admit that our 9s were terrible? Because I realize not every base is three starred on the first pass and the more attacks you have to hit the toughest bases the better you allocated your attacks? More 9 attacks to hit 9s>less 9 attacks to hit 9s, I don't know how you can argue that. And if you have 42 TH9s and they do the work of the TH8s, who do the TH8s attack, exactly? How is letting them attack TH8s a poor allocation of attacks if they have literally nothing else to attack? I'm confused by your argument.

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This guy....smh. 🆒