Pros and Cons of Enabling 2 Player Challenge Attacks

There are many instances where it would be nice to be able to challenge another player to a Clash of Clans duel, where each player gets to attack the other's base. I can think of times within a clan where this would be fun, it would certainly lead to interesting dynamics on global, and even challenging players in other clans could be interesting. People within the same clan could of course see each others traps, and people in different clans would not, but that's workable.

I'm envisioning a setup where both players opt in and have a very limited time to attack each other (maybe 1 or 2 hours). COC could either attempt to define what "winning" means, or just leave it to the two players doing the challenge to determine whether % destruction, loot taken, or something else defines the winner.

The primary downside I can see to this feature, would be people gaming it to effectively use it as a backdoor to transfer resources from one account to another, something that Supercell has wisely outlawed.

Any ideas on whether this feature would be desirable, and if so, how to manage the unintended consequences of it?

fuuhgeddaboutit! it will be exploited ina new york minute hence ...it doesn't exist and never will.

I would love to spar with clanmates but no loot or trophies....just bragging rights.

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Originally Posted by Skizzity

I would love to spar with clanmates but no loot or trophies....just bragging rights.

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It would be fun, but people would use it mainly for war practice. One player copies an enemy base, fellow clan member gets to practice. In the event that the target base has already been attempted, trap, Tesla, and castle contents could all be duplicated.

Yes, but with the following modifications:

• Opponent chosen by matchmaking system using a search mechanism similar to wars
• Bonus resources awarded by wining. Village loot is not exposed, just like in wars).

The fear of exploiting this feature is valid, so how about the following system:

-Add a "Challenge" button on every player's profile
-If a player gets challenged, they have 5 min to reply (this means both players have to be planning to challenge each other in real time, either inside their clan, on global, or in the real world)
-Entering a challenge costs each player 25,000 gold
-Both players have 90 minutes to attack each other's bases
-The player with the highest % destruction gets their 25,000 gold and the cost of their troops/spells refunded to them
-The loser is out the 25,000 gold challenge fee, and the cost of their troops/spells

This way there is no way to use this to transfer loot from one player to another.

Also, regarding the concern about practicing for war attacks. If there is a resource cost and a potential cost for the troops/spells, and you would have to have a friend with exactly the same defenses/walls/heroes as the base you are practicing for, and you would need to correctly guess where the traps are placed; then is this really a significant risk? I'm sure it would occasionally happen, but it would be an expensive (time & resources), complicated, and potentially inaccurate way to try to game the system.

Your thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Yoyobuae

Yes, but with the following modifications:

• Opponent chosen by matchmaking system using a search mechanism similar to wars
• Bonus resources awarded by wining. Village loot is not exposed, just like in wars).

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Not a bad start. I have a few ideas to add.
-no live replay, cannot see results until after match time expires or both parties attack. Otherwise, players would just wait to see what the other did and then just try to 1-up them. 2nd attacker could win with a barch for 50% when the first attacker got a 49% TH kill with a full war army.
-wager system or winner take all. With no skin in the game, it would be common for people to barch for 50 and assume they will lose while getting easy gold/DE. Similar to war farming clans.

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Originally Posted by PROFIT

Not a bad start. I have a few ideas to add.
-no live replay, cannot see results until after match time expires or both parties attack. Otherwise, players would just wait to see what the other did and then just try to 1-up them. 2nd attacker could win with a barch for 50% when the first attacker got a 49% TH kill with a full war army.
-wager system or winner take all. With no skin in the game, it would be common for people to barch for 50 and assume they will lose while getting easy gold/DE. Similar to war farming clans.

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I like the no live replay addition to the concept. You wouldn't want to be able to know what the other player had done until its all over.

I'm not sure about using a similar matchmaking system to clan wars though. I was really trying to come up with a way to deliberately be able to challenge a specific player. Even if it costs resources and there is no loot upside, I can see people wanting to challenge each other.

We would use this inside our clan a lot, and it would get used frequently on global with people searching for a challenge. I can see the posts now:

"My base is better than yours... no its not... yes it is... alright then I challenge you to a duel!"
"TH9.5 looking for a challenge against a TH10 with max heroes"
"Gowipe vs Gowiwi TH9 anyone interested?"

Could have both.

What to do about defensive clan castles? Spectators in war cannot donate, so would that same mechanic apply? If you can just get donations from anyone, you would see a lot of low level bases with max troops in defensive castles.

Troll bases would be exceptionally fun. Base looks incredibly rushed... But then well-spread and defended max Teslas pop out, ha. I have a TH8.5 that has really low defensive everything except his L7 teslas. Usually burns up a drag attack or 2 per war before somebody finally GOWIPEs him. He would look like an easy drag attack to lots of random who don't get the benefit of seeing somebody else fail first.

Hm... we should move this to IFR.. but YES! I like it! This could even open the door to more achievements (Duel stars gained, Duel loot gained) and another stat for SC to keep track of. Make them cough up some dough to store more data!

Seriously though, I like this idea. I hear so much smack talk.. could have people put their money where their mouth is.