Poison Spell seriously needs to be fixed.

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Originally Posted by SoumilDude

Before you say anything, I was the ATTACKER not defender. Happened during a hog raid. Lured CC. Lv4 Dragon came out. Poisoned him and killed him with 20 archers. Got me thinking.

Where did the fun witch Kill go? Poison was already OP, why did they make it MORE OP!

Just don't want it to work for troops. Good against skellies and all, but ruins the fun of the game.

Just my opinion

Good day,

\Soumil

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Originally Posted by bactgudz

Ummm, it doesn't sound like the poison did a lot of work for you. You don't need poison to help 20 archers kill a drag. This could have happened both pre and post update.

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Yeah was thinking the same thing. You can kill a dragon with 20 archers anyway so in this instance the poison was pretty much redundant.

It now allows low hp troops to be as effective as higher hp troops. Before, a max poison spell would kill a max wizzy in like 4 secs. Now it takes at least double that maybe more. But now you can also kill a high HP troop, just takes more time. So you can make a decision on what to put in your CC and not have like 3 troops to choose from, like before. I love it, hate the war cc anyways.

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Originally Posted by erethizon

Wow, seriously? Max archers have 47 health which means the spell does next to no damage for the first half the spell. I have to agree with people that say this is a huge nerf. If you have to let even the archers beat on your troops for 7 or 8 seconds then the CC is going to be doing huge damage to your troops whether you bring a poison spell or not. I suppose it is nice to be able to harm high hit point troops but that means we are back to having to lure to keep the troops in one tight area so the huge time sink of luring is back even with the poison spell.

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Ive been using the spell in champs since the update and there are a lot of bases here that still have max wiz and archers in. Poison still works fine because although the troops take a while to die they are slowed down so much they stay in its circumference until they die. Their attack speed is also slowed so much they never get a shot off. I really haven't noticed much of a nerf tbh.

Edit: Im talking about dropping it in their path,not luring them into a group.

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Originally Posted by lomenop

for a mass hog attack, is it now too slow to kill skellies if they're chasing hogs around?

Haven't tried it out yet but perhaps someone has.

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This really depends on the path your hogs are taking now. I was a fan of using the old poison to kill skeletons chasing my hogs and as long as you dropped on them centrally it would take them out no problem. With the new poison, on my recent hog attack I dropped it like I normally would, but my hogs destroyed the defense they were working on and had to move a fairly large distance and most of the skeletons made it out of the poison AoE with a sliver of health.

You just have to be more aware of when you're dropping it for trap skeletons. Just drop it over the next defense your hogs are moving to, rather than directly on the skeletons themselves.

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Originally Posted by NioTheDreamer

Enter the goblin >;)

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gooby pls

On a serious note, anybody have any good ideas for what units to put into the CC now? It seems like dragons/hounds are just too expensive with how easily they can be dealt with. Back to Witch/Wiz/Arch combos?

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Originally Posted by clocked41

gooby pls

On a serious note, anybody have any good ideas for what units to put into the CC now? It seems like dragons/hounds are just too expensive with how easily they can be dealt with. Back to Witch/Wiz/Arch combos?

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Before the update my Th8 ran

1 Valk, 1 Wiz, 2 loons, 3 gobs

Worked great. Not sure if I'd still do 2 loons as the new poison spell had a serious buff vs those.

Explanation: These units all have various speeds and 3 of them have splash. Bunching them up is a pain. The goblins further complicate this because a single archer or wizard will die before it ever attacks said goblins. This means bunching them up is extra painful.

My Th10 ran something similar but didnt' seem as effective vs Th10.

So Trying 1 witch, 1 wiz, 1 valk, 1 loons, 4 Goblins, 1 Minion

Similar theory - poison change should greatly benefit the witch. Not sure if Gobs/minion are necessary. Most th10 don't lure anyway

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Originally Posted by NioTheDreamer

Before the update my Th8 ran

1 Valk, 1 Wiz, 2 loons, 3 gobs

Worked great. Not sure if I'd still do 2 loons as the new poison spell had a serious buff vs those.

Explanation: These units all have various speeds and 3 of them have splash. Bunching them up is a pain. The goblins further complicate this because a single archer or wizard will die before it ever attacks said goblins. This means bunching them up is extra painful.

My Th10 ran something similar but didnt' seem as effective vs Th10.

So Trying 1 witch, 1 wiz, 1 valk, 1 loons, 4 Goblins, 1 Minion

Similar theory - poison change should greatly benefit the witch. Not sure if Gobs/minion are necessary. Most th10 don't lure anyway

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Gonna have to try this in the next war on Monday.

You keep forgetting one thing. Poison now decease attack rate on troops affected. Lvl 1 35% and goes up to 50% at level 4. So its more like buff all in all.

Skellies seem to die even they just run under poison as poison does dmg few seconds afterwards also.

I don't care for it much before or after the update. The cc is next to useless now.