TH 10 Advice....Continue to max defenses or finish walls

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September 15th, 2015
Charles932

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TH 10 Advice....Continue to max defenses or finish walls

Hey Clashers,

I have reached a situation where I'm not sure what my priorities are. I will list my stats then further discuss my situation.

Name: Charles
Clan: The Great Ones
Level: 117
Heros: Q:20, K:18
GG: around 702M
Walls: 205 lego, 45 lava
War Stars: 568

I'm currently about mid way with maxing my defenses; maybe slightly less then half way...there is a screenshot of my base at the bottom of this thread. I have a decision to make...

1. dedicate the next few months upgrading all walls to lvl 10.

Pros

i. Looks badass/ intimidates players from attacking while farming and may cause mistakes during war.
ii. Will strengthen my overall base.
iii. Slows down troops

Cons

i. Will take FOREVER
ii. Air attacks are so popular making walls useless
iii. Earthquake spell also makes walls useless.
iv. opportunity lost to max defenses (prolonged not lost); talking about opportunity cost.

2. Max defenses first then focus on walls.

Pros

i. Max defenses intimidate players
ii. give base maximum defense capabilities

Cons

i. Will take a long time/will be a while before I touch walls.

I understand there are many pros/cons for each scenario that I missed and feel free to add any in comments. I really want max defenses but I also like having what many players want but don't have....badass walls. However, I also can not stand constantly looking at 4-5 free builders. I also don't play enough anymore to keep builders busy while working on walls. Many people say to use gold for defenses and elixir for walls...however I would rather do one or the other (maybe continue to upgrade troops with elixir).

I understand TH11 is in the near future so maybe my priorities will change. However, for now I would like some advice/thoughts about what the community has to think about base priorities.

Keep on clashing!

ps: I don't gem...I got the 2000 gems from reaching Champs...finally.

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My base as of Sep 15th 2015

Psss: currently recruiting...must be active and love war. Check us out!
September 15th, 2015
facescraper

TLDR but def is more important.
September 15th, 2015
Johnnysks

I'm a max th10 except for about 35 (current walls). If you like war, work on your royals. Otherwise, only do walls first if they make you happy aesthetically. They aren't much better than lava walls as people tend to jump over them, and either way it is 3 wb to break them.
September 15th, 2015
xtalx

Defences with gold. Walls with elixir. Excess gold into walls.
September 15th, 2015
LordHalestorm

Defenses (and heroes).

Max defenses are more intimidating than max walls. Between eq and jump spells and air attacks, walls on their own aren't that intimidating.
September 15th, 2015
Derrock

If you care about war ug heroes, troops, and walls first. If I could go back I would never have even made mortars as they are completely useless in war. Defenses are overrated on the war algorythem and your base design and offense are much more important to winning wars.
September 15th, 2015
GrahamMWR

max the defenses. more walls coming in the update, dont even bother with walls right now.
September 15th, 2015
Atrocity

Just do both. Leave one builder open for walls. The way im doing it right now is 2 builders for defenses 2 for heroes and 1 for walls.
September 16th, 2015
CuteBoboi

I say neither #1 nor 2.

I suggest #3: focus on DE, upgrade both heroes to max it ASAP.
Gold & Elixir will come naturally, albeit slower pace.
Dump into defenses first.
If you farm much faster than builders, then keep a builder free to dump whatever remaining into walls.

Repeat: focus on DE, not gold/elixir.
September 16th, 2015
Iftheskyisblue

Max defences before walls for sure‼️

Max defences first for sure especially if u don't play enough to keep all your builders busy.

But higher priorities than defences are finishing lab and heros.

Do walls only when lab is busy, builders are busy and heros are upgrading.

I went to high champ with level 7 walls no problems.

And personally i didn't bother with lvl 8 or lvl 9 walls. I had level 7 till i maxed everything else, now i am working on level 10 walls. Level 7 need 2 max WBs to break them so they are an important step up from level 6, and level 10 walls need 3 max WBs so that's the next important step. (Besides level 8 And level 9 walls are ugly 😜).

FYI i take no notice of wall level when i attack bases, just look at defences and dps.

Also i take the opposite view with regards to making my base look strong. I like attackers underestimating my base. I got lots of defensive wins in champ, because i think some attackers judge a base on walls and when they see level 7 walls they mistakenly think the base is weak.
September 16th, 2015
Johnreznov32

Lego walls and lava walls are good enough if you are a TH10. Blue walls is quite unnecessary excepts it will make your base look like a bad ♥♥♥ but to be honest, strong players are not concerned about the walls. Having blue / lava walls will only intimidate those farmers but if you are in champs or titans most of the time youre gonna get 2 starred. If you take a look at the leaders board players, all their bases are spread wide and are designed to make your golem/pekka stray outside instead of going to the core because relying on walls for defence is quite useless.
September 16th, 2015
Camja11

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuteBoboi

I say neither #1 nor 2.

I suggest #3: focus on DE, upgrade both heroes to max it ASAP.
Gold & Elixir will come naturally, albeit slower pace.
Dump into defenses first.
If you farm much faster than builders, then keep a builder free to dump whatever remaining into walls.

Repeat: focus on DE, not gold/elixir.

I vote you do this!

once your defences are done you can dump all your gold and elixir into walls. Defences before walls, but HEROS FIRST!
September 16th, 2015
TheClanimals

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atrocity

Just do both. Leave one builder open for walls. The way im doing it right now is 2 builders for defenses 2 for heroes and 1 for walls.

This.
10x this.
September 16th, 2015
woochi

Both if u can. and if u can't do both then max defenses first :)
September 16th, 2015
Charles932

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuteBoboi

I say neither #1 nor 2.

I suggest #3: focus on DE, upgrade both heroes to max it ASAP.
Gold & Elixir will come naturally, albeit slower pace.
Dump into defenses first.
If you farm much faster than builders, then keep a builder free to dump whatever remaining into walls.

Repeat: focus on DE, not gold/elixir.

Any tips on upgrading heroes fast? Currently farming in Silver 1. I play maybe 2 hours a day and can usually farm 10k de in that time with barch.
September 16th, 2015
Azrial

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuteBoboi

I say neither #1 nor 2.

I suggest #3: focus on DE, upgrade both heroes to max it ASAP.
Gold & Elixir will come naturally, albeit slower pace.
Dump into defenses first.
If you farm much faster than builders, then keep a builder free to dump whatever remaining into walls.

Repeat: focus on DE, not gold/elixir.

Agree with this completely.

However you could also compromise on walls. Maybe go for full lava, or full lava with zap core and then proceed to max defenses.
September 16th, 2015
MrJackrabbit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derrock

If you care about war ug heroes, troops, and walls first. If I could go back I would never have even made mortars as they are completely useless in war. Defenses are overrated on the war algorythem and your base design and offense are much more important to winning wars.

Couldnt agree more
September 17th, 2015
CuteBoboi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles932

Any tips on upgrading heroes fast? Currently farming in Silver 1. I play maybe 2 hours a day and can usually farm 10k de in that time with barch.

I'm not a great farmer, there are many elite farmers here in this forum. I have not farmed in silver league after passing through since TH7.
TH9 I farmed in Crystal 3 up to M3
TH10 I farmed in Crystal 1 up to Champs

10k DE for 2 hours without boost barracks are alright with me, I'm sure there are some who farms much better. I multi-task play about 4 hours on weekday and maybe 6-12 hours on weekend. On average, my total DE income is about 200k per week (yeah, nothing fantastic), but it keep one of my hero upgrading non-stop.

Check out Ash's guide : http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-Guide/page109

I manage to farm and upgrade both heroes simultaneously until about 20/20. Then I focus on AQ40 (done). Now upgrading BK to 36. Another 4.5 weeks to go :)

What you need to practise is farm with barch, CC and minimal lightning spells for maximum clean profit. WITHOUT heroes as they will be upgrading.
Also, you need to switch your mindset on farming to prioritise DE. If you see collector raids with full gold/elixir outside and full DE drills behind 1st layer wall, your attack will go for those DE first. Don't mind if you can't get the gold/elixir.
e.g. offer 300k/300k/2k DE, it is fine if you just get 50k/50k but DE must get 2k

Also, nexting/attacking.
e.g. 300k/300k/100 DE = skip. Don't waste time.
50k/50k/3k DE = attack. (Provided the DE is accessible)
This is to maximise your DE income.

Not easy to ignore the gold/elixir, but doable with proper discipline mindset. :thumbsup: