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Hi,
This might be a bit naive of me, but what is the function of 0% attacks in war? In my current war (against a top clan), the enemy used all lower attacks on top bases. They just dropped a few barbs and ended immediately for 0%. CC wasn't lured, there was no attempt to look for outside bombs, etc. What is the point of these attacks?
People do this so they can use an attack helper which only works through replay and nothing elseQuote:
Originally Posted by xMathx
Is this reportable? If so, do I just need screenshots of the 0% attacks or do I need more evidence? What would that evidence be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seant93
1) Noobs that think they will get loot for losing
2) Alternate accounts trap-scouting with rabbits
They are probably playing in the sandbox.
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Originally Posted by Kenchafer
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Originally Posted by TheSixthBuilder
Wow, I didn't realize you could still do this! Can I report this in-game with screenshots of the 0% attacks? Do I need more evidence?
1. People who lose connection between pressing attack and deploying a troop (Happened to me)
2. People using bunnies (Unfair tools to help them.)
3. People living under a rock thinking they can still ghost
4. People who think they can end an attack and it won't count.
i don't think reporting it will do much as there can't be enough proof to show he was #2.
They could fix this. But only if they add something to a update. Let it sut for a few weeks an monitor then ban hammer all that ♥♥♥♥♥ed.
But they have to want to stop them from doing it
Ugh, I feel so helpless. It's so obvious it's #2 and yet there isn't enough evidence :(Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessionalNoob
I really hope SC finds a way to fix this in the future.
They are probably doing something that's against TOS, honestly there is nothing to report, we have our suspicions but without evidence there's nothing we can do. Maybe you can wait until they actually start attacking those bases, maybe you'll spot something then.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMathx
They have already started attacking those bases and are 3 starring them. They are excellent attacks regardless of any shenanigans. However, almost all of their attacks against max th9s are hog attacks, and they seem to always know where the double big bombs are. Examples: if symmetrical base with 4+ possibilities, always trigger the right two locations with kills squad; if base with 4+ possibilities but no double bombs (4 single bomb locations), each bomb is preemptively healed; if base has drag in cc (as opposed to lava), poison will be preemptively placed; etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimReaper88
Is this evidence enough?
Thanks! Hope to see a permanent fix in the future!Quote:
Originally Posted by facescraper
I know what OP is saying. One of our recent war, then enemy use the bottom most to do few barb drops on our #1 and #2.
Then it was idle for many hours.
The enemy proceed to 2 star both TH10 #1 and #2.
#3 and #4 which was not "scouted", only lost 1 star each.
:rolleyes:
People very often do this to us and we indeed suspect bunnies, but I'm surprised that this is enough evidence to get Super Cell to do anything.
Even without the bunnies it still makes sense to do this with any really low level accounts that you brought into war just to check for CC troops or traps (talking about REALLY low level accounts that can't do anything else).
Aside from the main issue, it could be that by having these really low level accounts in our primarily TH10 wars my clan is increasing the chance of going against bunny users, but we don't really have enough people to do constant wars without some fodder alts as filler. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Lol not really, an experienced hogger can spot the real DBG threats based on pathing, put everything together and I think you have a little evidence there, you can record a few of these attacks and then submit them to support, don't hold your breath though, i've seen people publicly display the usage of these helpers.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMathx
When a maxed defense TH10 gets 3 starred after opponent bottom player did 0% drop...
Clearly they are using illegal helpers ...
You could also check to see if those people are still in the clan. If they aren't they were probably trolling the other clan by purposefully losing their attacks.
Why the need to report?
Even if they are doing something naughty the system is doing it's job, and you won't lose a war conceding 0% attacks.
For the record sounds like they are checking CC troops to me
Top war clan, used low base to drop troops on top bases only. That's pretty coordinated .... if they are trolls then they are really friendly and helpful trolls. Once again, clearly illegal methods.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bake1986
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Originally Posted by xMathx
We are just a common clan who war non-stop and we stumbled upon this same occurrence. The first guy used his both attacks on number 3 and 4 on the first minute of the war. Its mind boggling why they do that. screen shots below:
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why do they drop troops? cant they just start the attack and end immediately? waste of troops i think
It's the nature of the bunny I think. They drop troops so that the replay will contain the location of the traps and teslas and the contents of the CC. Then they can simulate until they got a 3 star strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayuntamiento
seen it in a few wars i've been in. usually they (are th3-4 and) have no viable bases to attack, then the ones that they do 0% on are later 3starred by (most often) one of their rosters' top six
Dropping enough troops to find a few giant bomb spots, I understand.
Dropping troops to test tesla/traps, I understand.
Dropping CC hogs/giants to trigger the CC to see the contents, I understand.
However, dropping a few barbs that doesn't trigger anything, I think I understand ...... :rolleyes:
Most of said bunnies.. and most of them know how the bunnies work... :smirk:
Soon you will come to know the function of 0 percent attacks...Quote:
Originally Posted by xMathx
When all you top TH would be 3 starred with 1 spell remaining... LoL...
If you think about it, this is quite funny. :smirk:Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterQiu
You have got to appreciate the irony of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterQiu
If they are just dropping a barb then ending after a few seconds, neary guaranteed modded if this is a repeat occurrence. Modding is very widespread now, its a real shame to see people turn to dark methods to gain an advantage.
One of two things: they disconnected accidentley (like the wifi drops) or they are modders. Dropping some troops and ending is a well worn 'tactic' used by 'elite' war clans. Jump on a twitch stream for any of the big wars and you'll see it regularly.
No, the system is NOT "doing its job", and they will lose the war because those "attacks" are getting them information illegally about the placement of traps, so the real attacks then 3 star bases they probably would not have been able to otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bake1986
How exactly can you police people attacking high to expose CC troops and traps? How will the game recognise what is a real and fake attack?Quote:
Originally Posted by alexheney
The only way to stop it is to remove replays
For the newer versions of ♥♥♥♥ to work, a person has to attack the base first to see the traps, so they get the 0% so that the higher level people could practice the attack over and over
You can't, and it is s perfectly legitimate tactic, when you actually have the troops attack sufficiently to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bake1986
But when you just drop 1 troop and surrender, that is not a legitimate way of discovering them.
Or to deal with replays differently. I realise this will take significant coding effort, and will probably add to network traffic, but if the replays only contain data about what could actually be seen at some point during the attack, then doing the above would not help.Quote:
How will the game recognise what is a real and fake attack?
The only way to stop it is to remove replays
It only helps because the replays contain data about the whole base, whether it actually became visible or not.