TH 9.5 as the 1st member of your clan smart or no?

So here is the scenario
Our clan is competitive in clan wars, currently on a 37 win streak, however we have a about 6-7 th9s, (3 -max ;3- 8.5s) 10-12 th8s, and 7-8 th7s that typically compete in our wars. because our max th9s have lava walls and getting close to lvl 30 heros, we often get matched vs one or 2 th 10s with inferno towers. This is tough for obvious reasons

My question is if our 1st few members go to th 10 as a 9.5 and dont have infernos, this is a huge disadvantage, but will add a ton of war weight. I want to hear peoples experience with this and what they think is best. As of now my plan is to just build 2 infernos during the prep time and keep cancelling it once the war is over (i know this is cheap, but dont hate the player, hate the game)

Thanks!

You can add "war infernos", once the preparation day has started build an inferno tower... then cancel it once the war is over..

You are in a 37 war win streak yet you come into the forums and ask for advice? Looks like you are just boasting about your wins in a backhanded way. Congrats on the war win streak, you don't need our advice.

I went to TH10 doing the 9.5 thing, and I am the only TH10 in our clan. I started with building nothing new, not even an elixir collector. I upgraded all my offense(camps, sf, lab etc.). My heroes were upper 20's(level 37/35 now). I was matched with th10s every war, but I was getting matched with them at TH9, that's why I upgraded.

One war the TH10 got zero stars on me, but then the top TH9 got 2 stars on me. I was really just a TH9 still. So I built one inferno. I kept getting just barely 2 starred and felt another inferno would help. Well I ended up building all my traps, and other defenses over the next several wars. I was getting solid 2 stars against my opponents and honestly, I was getting matched with TH10s that had level 3 infernos etc and this was with just one inferno built. The more defenses I built almost didn't seem to matter, the bases I faced were all pretty much decent TH10s.

With the matchmaking the way it is, the best thing to do is do a 9.5 until you get your offense up. Then start slowly adding defenses and if you are 2 starring their TH10 without too much issue, keep adding and upgrading. I've faced completely maxed defense TH10s and some that are Th9 level d, regardless of my defense level. It's all the luck of the draw when you get matched up. Just one .5 really doesn't make much difference without several people in your clan doing it. A TH10 without infernos, is a TH9 on D and you allow the TH9s to have a shot at you. This war I finished my 3rd Xbow upgrade to level 3 and a few more defenses and I got matched with a TH10 that was pretty bad, worse then what I got when I was a 9.5.

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Originally Posted by JtB

You are in a 37 war win streak yet you come into the forums and ask for advice? Looks like you are just boasting about your wins in a backhanded way. Congrats on the war win streak, you don't need our advice.

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We do well because we learn the way the game works, we are entering a new part of the game (th10) and are not sure how to deal with it and are looking for advice from clans that have gone through this, but thanks for being a ♥♥♥♥

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Originally Posted by Micker99

I went to TH10 doing the 9.5 thing, and I am the only TH10 in our clan. I started with building nothing new, not even an elixir collector. I upgraded all my offense(camps, sf, lab etc.). My heroes were upper 20's(level 37/35 now). I was matched with th10s every war, but I was getting matched with them at TH9, that's why I upgraded.

One war the TH10 got zero stars on me, but then the top TH9 got 2 stars on me. I was really just a TH9 still. So I built one inferno. I kept getting just barely 2 starred and felt another inferno would help. Well I ended up building all my traps, and other defenses over the next several wars. I was getting solid 2 stars against my opponents and honestly, I was getting matched with TH10s that had level 3 infernos etc and this was with just one inferno built. The more defenses I built almost didn't seem to matter, the bases I faced were all pretty much decent TH10s.

With the matchmaking the way it is, the best thing to do is do a 9.5 until you get your offense up. Then start slowly adding defenses and if you are 2 starring their TH10 without too much issue, keep adding and upgrading. I've faced completely maxed defense TH10s and some that are Th9 level d, regardless of my defense level. It's all the luck of the draw when you get matched up. Just one .5 really doesn't make much difference without several people in your clan doing it. A TH10 without infernos, is a TH9 on D and you allow the TH9s to have a shot at you. This war I finished my 3rd Xbow upgrade to level 3 and a few more defenses and I got matched with a TH10 that was pretty bad, worse then what I got when I was a 9.5.

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Thanks ya this is my dilema, I feel if I am the only 9.5, the th 10s will be able to 3 star me fairly easily, but it will be very difficult to 3 star them.

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Originally Posted by MJD585

We do well because we learn the way the game works, we are entering a new part of the game (th10) and are not sure how to deal with it and are looking for advice from clans that have gone through this, but thanks for being a ♥♥♥♥

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No, I'm just stating the obvious. You already said what you plan to do, you have it figured out already. Why again are you asking questions to what you already have the answers too? Again, congrats on the 37 war win streak, you guys are awesome!

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Originally Posted by MJD585

As of now my plan is to just build 2 infernos during the prep time and keep cancelling it once the war is over (i know this is cheap, but dont hate the player, hate the game)

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Well that's obviously the optimal solution - get the guns without paying the war weight. Whether 9.5 is good in your case... I would say it depends what sort of TH10 you are getting at the moment. I would guess they are a bit rubbish - either TH9s who just upgraded to TH10; in which case they probably have TH9 troops plus camps and will struggle to 3* you. Or semi-rushed TH10s, who are probably no threat for all sorts of reasons. In this case they will likely 2* you with or without infernos - a max-TH9 plus infernos is still a 2* for a TH9 attacker. OTOH, if you get the offence upgrades you might be getting 3 on at least the semi-rushed type of opponent. Or can squish their top TH9s much more easily. However... if you are already getting solid TH10s (max golem, max pekka, good freeze, 25/25+ heroes) with just TH9s on your side, you probably need the infernos to stop them getting the 3* on you; and the offence upgrades won't change the fact that you 2* them. So in this case the 9.5 wouldn't help.

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Originally Posted by OnyxDS

Well that's obviously the optimal solution - get the guns without paying the war weight. Whether 9.5 is good in your case... I would say it depends what sort of TH10 you are getting at the moment. I would guess they are a bit rubbish - either TH9s who just upgraded to TH10; in which case they probably have TH9 troops plus camps and will struggle to 3* you. Or semi-rushed TH10s, who are probably no threat for all sorts of reasons. In this case they will likely 2* you with or without infernos - a max-TH9 plus infernos is still a 2* for a TH9 attacker. OTOH, if you get the offence upgrades you might be getting 3 on at least the semi-rushed type of opponent. Or can squish their top TH9s much more easily. However... if you are already getting solid TH10s (max golem, max pekka, good freeze, 25/25+ heroes) with just TH9s on your side, you probably need the infernos to stop them getting the 3* on you; and the offence upgrades won't change the fact that you 2* them. So in this case the 9.5 wouldn't help.

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This was actually really helpful. I think that feeling it out over the next few months or so is the best option.
Thanks

Isn't this going a bit far? This is a game, and we play it for the satisfaction that it gives us. I get very little satisfaction if I, as a TH9, have to attack a TH8 in war. Sure, it's fun crushing your opponent, but it's no test of my skill or ability. I simply have bigger guns than they have. When I 3 star a max TH9, that makes me feel good.

I can see the benefit of going 8.5/9.5 for a while to optimize your upgrade order, but when you start buying and canceling upgrades to gain an artificial advantage I think you're going too far. Wouldn't the game be more fun if you were matching opponents that were closer to your level? Don't you think it taints your statement that you have 37 consecutive wins when you're having to game the system to do it?