Why are We (Clashers) so negative?

Coming from the Hay Day community (June 2013) to Clash community (April 2014), I can assure you each game has its frustrating moment. Nothing worse than being zapped when you barely save enough DE for your hero or when you just missed buying that last item you needed to upgrade your barn. Both moment are bad enough to shout at the screen and/or throw your iPad away.

It is not always rainbow on Hay Day side, trust me, that forum exploded sometimes XD and badly.

The difference, from my observation, lies in how people treat each other: with respect, without personal attack. Why? The audience and their background. Most Hay Day forumers are adults with family, kids, even grandkids. They can handle child's tantrum, have enough patience to explain, stay respectful even when they disagree, listen before speaking, be considerate of other's feelings. What are the forum trolls look like compare to the real life issues they are facing everyday? It might not worth their time feeding the troll or being nasty to others.


Everyone can have a bad day, but it won't make things better to vent your anger on somebody else.
Everyone was a newbie once and received help from other players, pay it forward to other newbies.

Surely, Clash is a game about attacking others, that shouldn't stop player being respectful towards each other. The forum is your place to express your opinion in a civil way and being heard after all.

PS: I would like to thank everyone for your effort to stay positive and not posting negative thoughts you might have in mind when all you want to do is shouting at the screen when reading forum. (Thanks for letting me play the game as well isntead of being more active on forum)

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Originally Posted by Johnnysks

Sorry but I have to respectfully disagree. Let's say you have never been to titan, so how can you truly know what the unique problems are in titan 2+ if you have never been there? You may think you know (and want to share your thoughts), but unless you have been there you don't really know how it's like.

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I am well aware of that, and have already said I would never attempt to comment on what it is like, or how it feels, or anything similar.

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It's great you want to share your feelings about a league you have never been to, but really are your assertions that titan 2 is fine constructive or valid in a thread where people who has been to titan 2+

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I have never made any such assertion, and nor would I without having been there.

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ALL agreed it needs fixing and bringing exposure of the problem to the forum (and by doing so are asking the game maker for help)?

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Even though I have never been there, I can agree with that. It is quite obvious from the comments, without havng experienced it myself.

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Maybe the forum would be best served if people only talk about what they actually know about or ask questions if they don't (instead of bravado)?

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It might, but while I (and many others) certainly adhere to that, it isn't going to happen any time soon :(

But it certainly doesn't help the forum to dismiss what others say as worthless when all they are talking about is facts which they can perfectly well know without having experienced the situation.

Many people are sore losers and that bleeds through in many posts. The world has become rife with "everyone is a winner" and participation awards. Well in war, there is a winner and a loser. It is much easier to blame others than it is to take stock of your own mistakes and address them. Much of the forum is split between posts suggesting that there is no way to win and posts suggesting that people are not very skilled at the game. I still like the forum but it could use a more helpful and positive tone.

...and if you are really unhappy with the game...there are other ways to spend your free time.

This is within all gaming communities, the more competition the more arrogance, obnoxiousness, hostility, sarcasm there is. This isn't just a CoC related issue but any gaming community with a lot of competitiveness.

The style of game is different. Clash is about stealing and crushing people for your gain. It is also a much larger community, so you are going to get more personalities. Also, clash is a game of strategy, so you will see the same help posts a million times when they can just search it. There's also no reason or need to help anyone outside your clan family besides wanting YouTube views and such.

So basically, clash is just a different beast entirely. It is a game not based around helping others and being friendly, so you won't see that as much. Plus, we just like complaining and showing off how good we are.

I do like the super meta idea of us all being incredibly nice as an inside joke that nobody knows about.


Great thread sit! You really brighten my day with all your insight and thought put into this! Clearly you understand the pulse of the community! Let's all hold hands!!!

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Originally Posted by Cowbug

Someone mentioned in another thread that Hay Day just announced Sneek Peeks will be starting soon for their game so I went over to thier News section to check it out even though my farm has been dormant for months.

More interesting to me than the announcement we the reactions from and interactions between their members. They were all....happy and...friendly. The sad thing about it was that this was odd to me.

Where are the synical, snarky comments? Where are the trolls? Why are these people complimenting each other and getting along? This is very strange indeed.

Not to say there aren't friendly, helpful people here, there are, but more often than not they get picked on too for offering help. And I dont claim to be 100% innocent, I acknowledge I have made comments that were less than positive in the past. But what is it about this community vs. That community

Is it just a different breed of gamer that plays Hay Day? Is it that that game is less about competing with other gamers and more about cooperation? Or did I just catch them on a good day and they are as spiteful and synical as we are at times?

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whats wierd is that in my real life world, i keep getting told to not be so negative. Also, yes, i think it may be a different breed of gamer, and the type of game it is itself.

I would say because r/clashofclans

Reddit ruins everything... Same with Boom, the r/ for boom = :thumbsdown:

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Originally Posted by bdoerksen

Even the pictures attitudes are different. Lol

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Thats funny. The games are definitely marketed differently.

And there are good points being made that we Clashers, in general, do like to brag/show off our bases, attack skills, knowledge, etc. And I'm not saying our community can't be helpful because again there are some very helpful, positive members in the community.

I'm sure to an extent though the Hay Dayers (or whatever they call themselve) also take pride in their farm and other in game accomplishments they just seem to interact in a more positive way on the whole.

Given the nature of the games, we will never be just like them and they have no reason to be like us. Hopefully though enough of us can make the effort (and believe me I know its not always easy) to try and keep the toxicity to a minimum.

In clash of clans, fun depends on many events, like,

- flop raids
- missing de (dark elixir) storage in raid because of wall breaker or queen's AI
- loosing de because of raids and having hard time in saving de for big upgrades
- flop attack in war, loosing war, war pressure
- errors/glitches
- hard time in getting resources for big upgrades
- hard time in pushing trophy
- and list goes on
- recruiting warriors and managing them, dealing with bad apples
- coming on forum for assistance and meeting sarcastic people with useless comments
- list goes on

All this can convert a happy joe from :cool: -> :p -> :unsure: -> :straightface: -> :eek: -> :saywhat: ->:facepalm: -> :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I will admit that I have wondered about that and the responses to the updates on Facebook.

There are so many negative comments and so many announcements of people quitting because the game is so bad!

Which makes me wonder why hundreds of millions of people are playing such a terrible game that makes them so unhappy?

Personally, I love the game. It takes teamwork to be good at the wars and keeping on top of lots of little things and seeing that if everyone improves a tiny bit we all win wars. The wars attacks are subtle and take planning and practise.

I do think that the bunnies hopping around add to the cynicism. Because (personally) I avoided joining an elite war clan because I don't want to deal with that. In my mediocre levels, we can win with skill and that just feels better.

I hope the bunnies can be fixed because I would like to admire the top attackers and know that it is skill.