introducing the Combined Upgrade...

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September 8th, 2015
Freyrix

introducing the Combined Upgrade...
Hello Clashers,

With every new TH-level a player unlocks new or more Defensive Buildings. That's great, of course. It allows you to expand your village, so it can take on harder enemies. However, the first levels of a new Cannon, for example, force you to stay online for several hours, or come online ever so often.

Therefore I would like to suggest the possibility to combine upgrades. Let my explain by using the example of the cannon. When upgrading to TH7, a player can buy two new Cannons. If he's not a rusher, his existing cannons will be maxed out at lvl 7. The two new Cannons are -of course- lvl 1.

It would be great if there was a feature that allowed players to upgrade these Cannons to lvl 6 in one build. Why lvl 6? I would make it a rule that the combined upgrade time of new Defensive Buildings can not exceed 24 hours. In case of a Cannon, that's at lvl 6. Upgrading it from lvl 1 to 6 would take 21 hours.

To balance this feature, there has to be a disadvantage to it, next to the fact that a builder is occupied for a longer time and the inability to use the cannon. There are several possibilities:
- Less XP gained. Normally a player gains 518XP to upgrade a Cannon to lvl 6. It could be 10% off (466XP).
- Higher upgrade cost. Normally it costs 171.000G to upgrade a Cannon tot lvl 6. It could be 10% more expensive (188.000G).
- A combination of the above.
Although I'm pretty sure this feature will be turned down as a variation on te ruled out "queuing builders", I would like to add that this is somewhat different, since it's not involving huge amounts or resources being used to avoid enemy raids...
September 8th, 2015
HungryHungryHippo

I can see where this would come in handy, but this request does get classified as a ''building que'' request.
And unfortunatly that feature has been ruled out by Supercell, even though many would like to see a feature like this i won't get your hopes up.

Quote:

Currently Ruled Out:

Other Buildings Related:
*Queue upgrades/builds

You're probably familiar with the READ BEFORE POSTING thread, but here you can find more info about previously ruled out suggestions.
September 8th, 2015
F34R991

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungryHungryHippo

I can see where this would come in handy, but this request does get classified as a ''building que'' request.
And unfortunatly that feature has been ruled out by Supercell, even though many would like to see a feature like this i won't get your hopes up.

It is CURRENTLY ruled out, not ruled out forever.

But yes, this would need some serious balancing. Don't want loot problems like we had with elx on walls a while back
September 8th, 2015
HungryHungryHippo

Quote:

Originally Posted by F34R991

It is CURRENTLY ruled out, not ruled out forever.

But yes, this would need some serious balancing. Don't want loot problems like we had with elx on walls a while back

Just out of curiosity, are there any examples of ''currently'' ruled out suggestions that have been approved anyways after a while and got implemented in the game?
September 8th, 2015
F34R991

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungryHungryHippo

Just out of curiosity, are there any examples of ''currently'' ruled out suggestions that have been approved anyways after a while and got implemented in the game?

I cant say with assurity, but I believe the following was "currently ruled out" (Just naming a few from the top of my head)

Storages immune to lightning
Ability to queue spells
Dark Spell Factory
Ability to spend elixir or gold on walls
September 8th, 2015
HungryHungryHippo

Quote:

Originally Posted by F34R991

I cant say with assurity, but I believe the following was "currently ruled out" (Just naming a few from the top of my head)

Storages immune to lightning
Ability to queue spells
Dark Spell Factory
Ability to spend elixir or gold on walls

Thanks, i wassn't aware of that.
I've seen all these changes come into the game but never realised they used to be Ruled out.
In that case i stand corrected, so get your hopes up i guess =)
September 8th, 2015
awesomness2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by F34R991

It is CURRENTLY ruled out, not ruled out forever.

But yes, this would need some serious balancing. Don't want loot problems like we had with elx on walls a while back

It wouldn't require much balancing at all really...in the grand scheme of things, the cost of the first 6 levels of cannon are negligible, and so is the build time.

Same could be said for doing the archer tower probably to level 5, or at most level 6
Mortar to level 2 or 3
Air defense to level 2 or 3
and possibly wizard tower to level 2.

The real issues are 1) this is awkward since some defenses would be a level 3 combined build or 2 or 5 or 6. 2) Can you choose to do cannon up to level 4 only at once, or do you have to do it all the way to 6? 3) What if you want to cancel after it's up to level 3?

The biggest thing though is that this is such a minor issue that it's not worth the time or effort.
September 8th, 2015
AxionXD

Quote:

Originally Posted by F34R991

It is CURRENTLY ruled out, not ruled out forever.

But yes, this would need some serious balancing. Don't want loot problems like we had with elx on walls a while back

Quote:

Originally Posted by F34R991

I cant say with assurity, but I believe the following was "currently ruled out" (Just naming a few from the top of my head)

Storages immune to lightning
Ability to queue spells
Dark Spell Factory
Ability to spend elixir or gold on walls

I see a lot of argument about Ruled Out "For Now".

While you can add Name Change and Spell Completion Notification to that list, look at the list closely. Outside of Lightning Immunity, not many of those had a real good reason to be ruled out. It was more like ideas they didn't want to bother with just yet.

However, adding a queue to buildings would promote inactivity, that's something they don't want to promote. I'll gladly stake my reputation on an upgrade queue not making it into the game for a very long time, if ever. We already get notifications for when an upgrade completes. If you are not able to be active to start the next one, they're not going to help you be further inactive.

They want you to log on as much as possible.
September 9th, 2015
F34R991

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxionXD

I see a lot of argument about Ruled Out "For Now".

While you can add Name Change and Spell Completion Notification to that list, look at the list closely. Outside of Lightning Immunity, not many of those had a real good reason to be ruled out. It was more like ideas they didn't want to bother with just yet.

However, adding a queue to buildings would promote inactivity, that's something they don't want to promote. I'll gladly stake my reputation on an upgrade queue not making it into the game for a very long time, if ever. We already get notifications for when an upgrade completes. If you are not able to be active to start the next one, they're not going to help you be further inactive.

They want you to log on as much as possible.

That is a very valid point!